Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook

[Ikuryo]

Just an update, I bugged the fact that my bow is not doing blast dmg on confirmed 20s. I can't tell if the bug report actually was submitted though since there is no confirmation about it. I'm really hoping its fixed in the patch next week.

I want my other 4d6 dmg.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

Just an update, I bugged the fact that my bow is not doing blast dmg on confirmed 20s. I can't tell if the bug report actually was submitted though since there is no confirmation about it. I'm really hoping its fixed in the patch next week.

If you get the 'white screen' then it didn't submit. The bug report is er sometimes bugged... maybe someone should bug report that. hrm.

Garth

[Ikuryo]

Going as far back as beta I have had the same experience with the "report bug" window. I fill out all the fields with all the info I can think of and hit submit bug. Then nothing happens. The page does not change appearance I don't get a "thank you for the report" nothing. It just sits there with all the info I filled out showing and nothing changes.

Is this the proper way for it to work? Or have NONE of the bugs I've tried to submit going back to early beta actually gotten through..

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

you can always submit bugs by clicking here out of the game. It seems more reliable, but if your bug is a stuckspot then you'll have to manually type the location in.

Garth

[SneakThief]

So is there a plan for testing new recipies tomorrow?

Are people going to go back and test the recipes that failed last time?

For convinience:

There are twenty vale recipies that failed first time around:
Ore of Traval / Green Taper / Wonderous *
Ore of Traval / Violet Taper / Wonderous *
Fillaments of Toil / Red Taper / Wonderous *
Fillaments of Toil / Blue Taper / Wonderous *
Fillaments of Toil / Yellow Taper / Wonderous *

There are four shroud receipies that failed first time around:
Arrow / Bone / Chain / Stone
Arrow / Chain / Scale / Shrap
Bone / Chain / Shrap / Stone
Bone / Scale / Shrap / Stone

If horns are going to be a shroud ingredient, there are twenty more recipes with Horn.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

Given this post by Eladrin:

There will be additional Green Steel weapon types available for creation in module 7.

Splintered Horns will be used in the creation process of these weapons.

I would guess that horns go into the Altar of Fecundity and either replace a vale ingredient or, more likely in my view, replace a manufactured ingredient to form additional weapons. Given the weapons currently available, and the potential unbalancing that would occur by adding certain ones (i.e. axes further overpowering already overpowered dwarves), along with the recent introduction of monks, and the current distribution of weapons according to damage type (currently 3xslashing, 2xpiercing, 4xbludgeon, 3xranged) - my guess for new weapons would be probably kama and quarterstaffs (for monks) along with light picks and rapiers (for pierce speced people).

But that's just speculation...

Garth

[Justicesar]

Nope.....all weapons will be available and it will so unbalance the game....lol get a grip. Too bad soooo many peeps will have to wait for Mod 8 to deconstruct...or is that Mod7???

[Coldin]

Finding out exactly what horns will make is going to take a while I think. In some ways, I kinda just with the Devs would say what horns will make. Maybe not give us the recipes, but say if they're just for Kama, Handwraps, and/or Quarterstaves.

[SneakThief]

Nope.....all weapons will be available and it will so unbalance the game....lol get a grip. Too bad soooo many peeps will have to wait for Mod 8 to deconstruct...or is that Mod7???

I thought they said there was deconstuction for normal magical items in 7, but I havent seen anything about it lately ... They specifically siad that greensteel deconstruction was NOT in 7 ...

[Deragoth]

Finding out exactly what horns will make is going to take a while I think. In some ways, I kinda just with the Devs would say what horns will make. Maybe not give us the recipes, but say if they're just for Kama, Handwraps, and/or Quarterstaves.

I agree.

[SneakThief]

Finding out exactly what horns will make is going to take a while I think. In some ways, I kinda just with the Devs would say what horns will make. Maybe not give us the recipes, but say if they're just for Kama, Handwraps, and/or Quarterstaves.

I dont expect them to deviate much from the current patterns.
Being:

• Greensteel is made in the Vale alter
• Combine pulled (raw) ingredients to make manufactured ones
• Combine manufactured ones to make XXX

Could they? Sure... but I dont expect it.

My biggest "what if" right now is did they go back and fill in the recipies that didnt work before? Or are all new recipies going to need new types of ingredients?

[Gratch]

I poked around the twelve and meridia on Risia... no new NPC's and none of the current NPC's had any horn tradein options. So my guess is that medium or large horns can be used on the altars (or maybe just medium or large at this point). I would guess they're usable on the initial item creation altar of fecundity... but this would seem to devalue our large horns which were acquired at greater resource expenditure than other item creation elements... though maybe requiring large horns to build rapies and dorf axes would easily be worth it for some people.

But then there's this from one of the previews:

And of course the crafting system is getting an anticipated update as well -- there are thirty to forty recipes being added, as well as "about a half dozen" eldritch rituals, so there should be more for players to mess around with in that system as well.

So the WDA gives us the "half-dozen eldritch rituals". But what are the 30 to 40 recipes? All shroud based? We haven't had any word on general crafting recipes... and without construction/deconstruction being obvious...

So my guess is: the 30 to 40 new recipes will use medium horns for crafting new green steel items in the Altar of Fecundity (Meridia) and use Large Horns on new actual tier 3 upgrades and tier 3 bonuses at the altar of devestation (Shroud part 5). Where else do we get 30 to 40 recipes? Maybe it's one new gem or essence that requires a large horn. Though this would "unbalance" the current recipe system where small, meds and larges all follow suit.

Unless of course just adding one or two new weapons and multiplying it by all the current shroud possibilities is where they're getting 30 to 40. That would be kind of lame.

[stockwizard5]

Well - I really have no interest in spreading any unsubstantiated rumors ...

BUT

I was told last night that a guild on Risia crafted a Greensteel Dwarven Axe and it did take a horn?

Anyone want to let the group in what's being crafted on Risia?

[BlackPlague]

Does equiping a Crafted Negative Item bring about a negative level?

[SneakThief]

Does equiping a Crafted Negative Item bring about a negative level?

Only if its unholy or evil in the desriptions after you craft it AND you are good aligned.

[SneakThief]

Well it seems that the updated the horn ICON and the description. And both large and medium fit in the Vale Alter.

I can also confirm that ALL recipies using the Medium Horn as a raw ingridient fail. Ex: Husk, Lilly, Pebble, Med Horn, Power

Also (all include power shard):
Med Horn, Ore, Yellow, Jewel = FAIL
Med Horn, Ore, Yellow, Balm = FAIL
Lrg Horn, Ore, Yellow, Balm = FAIL
Med Horn, Ore, Green, Balm = FAIL
Lrg Horn, Ore, Green, Balm = FAIL

Med Horn, Fillament, Yellow, Balm = FAIL
Lrg Horn, Fillament, Yellow, Balm = FAIL
Med Horn, Fillament, Green, Balm = FAIL
Lrg Horn, Fillament, Green, Balm = FAIL

Im guessing you still need the stone, which makes other claims implausible.

I will update this post as I continue.

[Coldin]

Well it seems that the updated the horn ICON and the description. And both large and medium fit in the Vale Alter.

I can also confirm that ALL recipies using the Medium Horn as a raw ingridient fail. Ex: Husk, Lilly, Pebble, Med Horn, Power

I will update this post as I continue.

I wonder if medium horns will make some of the basic monk weapons, while Large Horns will make the debatably overpowered weapons like Axes and Rapiers.

[Inkblack]

I don't see a good way to make horns create Tier upgrades without adding a 7th or more dimension to the Air, Earth, Fire, Water, Positive and Negative axes. So I buy the use of them to make new Green Steel Blanks. But that brings up the question of how and what formula?

Existing GS Blanks:
Signet Stone + Ingredient_1 + Ingredient_2 + Ingredient_3 + Eberron_Cell = GS_Blank

If you put a Medium or Large Horn in there, does it just replace one of the ingredients? Or the signet stone (possibly what was posted in the crafting discussion thread)?

Initially, I'm going to assume that there are now four ingredients plus the Eberron cell.

BTW, I'm going to call these "Advanced Green Steel Blanks", and they will be found on the "Adv GS" tab in my spreadsheet (link below).

Ink

[Coldin]

Well, just thinking logically, I would probably say it would take Horn, Ore, Yellow Taper, and Jewel to make a Rapier. Basically just saying that because it's just the shortsword recipe, with a horn mixed in.

Anyone care to try it?

[jkm]

ink, the horns now say they resonate with the alter of fecundity (in meridia) so they are used with blanks.