Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook

[Shima-ra]

+3 tome is by far not as good as wearing 2 greensteel item.
I dont see how someone can choose +1 stat over greensteel uberness.

[Missing_Minds]

+3 tome is by far not as good as wearing 2 greensteel item.
I dont see how someone can choose +1 stat over greensteel uberness.

If all they were interested in were weapons, it isn't that hard of a choice. We also do not know how much this form of purification will be useful down the road with further crafting.

[Desteria]

+3 tome is by far not as good as wearing 2 greensteel item.
I dont see how someone can choose +1 stat over greensteel uberness.

Depends, on how many you can fit in, most of my chars can fit 2 in but a 3rd woudl be very very hard, with out +6 stats and other effects i consider manditory for most of my guys there is limited slots to put greensteel in.

For my sorc For Eg, I will make 2 items a +hp one and my +sp one, after that I would GLADLY grab a +3 tomb for +1 to my spell Dc's before another clensing, to be honest If that +3 ch a tome is in the first list I'll probably grab it first, as I can just spend a few of my larges on my tank first and get rdy for her 40th completion.

[Ilandrya]

Well I finished my goggles the other day, which have concordant opposition.. nothing new, but I did do some testing and thought I would share the results.

The hp is 30 temporary hp tacked on to your existing hp, rather than healing you for 30. It works the same way house buffs do in that if you log or switch maps/instances, it does not get rid of it. I have not had a chance to test it when shrining, but I would imagine that it works in the same way in which house buffs do in that regard. There is no timer, and of course, it goes away upon death or when you take 30 damage.

The hp portion does seem to happen much more often than the sp portion does for me, but from my understanding of earlier dev postings, there is a 1% chance for either so it's just the way my rolls have gone so far I guess. I have had both the hp and sp happen at once. I'm pretty sure this is self explanatory for most players, but for those who are newer, the sp is also 30, but it does not work like the hp.. it just refills your sp bar by 30 points.

I'm still trying to find out if either the hp or sp "stack" in that you can have 30,60,90 hp as a cummulative effect etc. but I doubt it will work that way for the hp portion... though I suspect the mana portion is cummulative.

I do not have the torque yet, but I have heard the sp portion stacks with the torque. I'll be happy about that... trying to lean away from pots for raids given their cost on the ah and that as we continue to progress in level, there is more likelyhood of them being destroyed in my pack. If I get them as a reward, I'll carry them, but not gonna spend the plat.


OH... a note on guard effects... you'll want to be careful about not having anything equipped that does damage when you are attacked on quests where you fail if you kill x amount of said mob... so you may want to be careful about putting guard effects like this on anything that you put yourself at risk by unequipping.


EDIT: The sp portion went off for 28 sp once this morning... not sure why it wasn't 30.

[Yaga_Nub]

Don't worry, if there's a way to get zero +3 tomes, I'll find it.

you mean it will find you!

[flash145]

So I am planning ahead for multiple crafted items. I would like to make the E+P+E/P as a helm for the hvy fort and +5 prot then the immunity item N+N+N as a necklace. BTW, this is for a cleric.

Here is what I want to do:
Helm:
Tier 1- Greater acid resist
Tier 2- +15hp +2 con skills
Tier 3- +20hp +3 con skills / positive shard for +5 prot /hvy fort bonus

Necklace
Tier 1- Blindness/Disease Immunity
Tier 2- Fear/Poison Immunity
Tier 3- 20hp +3 str skills.

I have a great DB item so dont need to overlap. The question is, will the 20hps at tier 3 stack or not? I would assume not but, would like to know if anyone has tried 2 tier 1 or tier 2 hp effects as a test. If general consensus is they wont, which would be better +2 fort or +10 more acid resist?

Thanks

[CaptGrim]

So I am planning ahead for multiple crafted items. I would like to make the E+P+E/P as a helm for the hvy fort and +5 prot then the immunity item N+N+N as a necklace. BTW, this is for a cleric.

Here is what I want to do:
Helm:
Tier 1- Greater acid resist
Tier 2- +15hp +2 con skills
Tier 3- +20hp +3 con skills / positive shard for +5 prot /hvy fort bonus

Necklace
Tier 1- Blindness/Disease Immunity
Tier 2- Fear/Poison Immunity
Tier 3- 20hp +3 str skills.

I have a great DB item so dont need to overlap. The question is, will the 20hps at tier 3 stack or not? I would assume not but, would like to know if anyone has tried 2 tier 1 or tier 2 hp effects as a test. If general consensus is they wont, which would be better +2 fort or +10 more acid resist?

Thanks

They won't ...it says in their description that they stack with everything but it's self.

And I'd go with fort, even thought it looks like you have a melee character. Because I can only think of one instance that 40 acid resist would be better than 30.

[mrtreats]

So I am planning ahead for multiple crafted items. I would like to make the E+P+E/P as a helm for the hvy fort and +5 prot then the immunity item N+N+N as a necklace. BTW, this is for a cleric.

Here is what I want to do:
Helm:
Tier 1- Greater acid resist
Tier 2- +15hp +2 con skills
Tier 3- +20hp +3 con skills / positive shard for +5 prot /hvy fort bonus

Necklace
Tier 1- Blindness/Disease Immunity
Tier 2- Fear/Poison Immunity
Tier 3- 20hp +3 str skills.

I have a great DB item so dont need to overlap. The question is, will the 20hps at tier 3 stack or not? I would assume not but, would like to know if anyone has tried 2 tier 1 or tier 2 hp effects as a test. If general consensus is they wont, which would be better +2 fort or +10 more acid resist?

Thanks

they say that it dont stack with other HP bonus from same tier when you view the item

[flash145]

Thanks for the help. I haven't made either yet so I have yet to see the message. But, I did assume they wouldn't. Guess, i'll go with fort saves. BTW if i have immunity to disease, poison, blindness and fear, what else am I using fort save for? Disintegrate, pk, charm?

[Boulderun]

Disint, PK, FOD, Destruction, Slay living, nausea (from non-troglodyte sources), a few rare paralysis effects.

+3 con skills does NOT include fortitude saving throws, by the way. When it says skills, in this case it means skill: Concentration, the lone con-based skill.

[flash145]

Disint, PK, FOD, Destruction, Slay living, nausea (from non-troglodyte sources), a few rare paralysis effects.

+3 con skills does NOT include fortitude saving throws, by the way. When it says skills, in this case it means skill: Concentration, the lone con-based skill.

Yup knew that, but the alternates for the tier 3 craft on earth are +2 fort save or +10 to acid resist. Considering this is for my cleric, I was leaning to +2 fort but couldn't remember what other spells have a fort save.

[Arkat]

Because the crafting system is based on a DnD thing - the elemental plains. And so far every quasi elemental or para elemental combo has netted only 1 tier3 upgrade - and this is something the devs have specificly hinted at as being correct and true. We have found all those upgrades already.
There are also 2 specials, which I believe was done just so every combo does indeed has a possible tier3 upgrade. Those are pos + neg - which is the only possible combo using energy all 4 times, and tempered + balance - which is all 4 elements put together. So it all makes logical sense.

So having something that breaks this mould wouldn't be right.

See here for a picture that explains this - note the picture is from DnD material and not a DDO creation : http://www.ddocrafting.com/ - click on para/elemental/special

Thanks Shade. That was very helpful!

[BlackSteel]

has anyone posted a pic of any of the good or evil guards? I'm very interested in knowing the wording on the effects, basically to what extent they're alignment restricted. Whether they work agaisnt all non-good or non-evil, or only agaisnt good/evil

[stockwizard5]

Thought I would mention that a relatively large number of us have completed our 20th run in the last few days but without the 20th end reward. It is speculated (rumored, etc) that runs completed before the first patch are not included in the total or perhaps we all count poorly. Either way we should have 20s on many characters by this weekend

[Graz]

Bow of Vacuum

[M/D/-] Altar I
[M/D/Air] Altar II
[M/D/-] + [M/D/Air] Altar III



Unholy
Shocking Burst
Shocking Blast
Destruction x2/day
Trap the Soul

Was late last night, and only played around a bit before logging, but it appears to go off about 2-3% of the time as expected.

Was able to create a couple shiny little gems...

Soul Gem: Giant (This was a troll)
Soul Gem: Magical Beast (This was a spider)

Question: The character that has this is Neutral Good. And I take a negative level when I equip the item? Was this something recently changed for crafted items? I seem to remember several hundred posts ago that someone made an unholy sword on a paladin, and they were not taking any negative levels when the item was equip?

...Graz

[maddmatt70]

I hit my 20th completion on Norg and I got the following options:
+3 strength tome
+2 Intelligence tome
+3 Wisdom tome
+2 Dexterity tome
+2 Charisma tome
+3 Constitution tome
Essence of Cleansing

You saw that right 3 +3 tomes. I cant wait to get the next character to 20.

[Angelus_dead]

Question: The character that has this is Neutral Good. And I take a negative level when I equip the item? Was this something recently changed for crafted items? I seem to remember several hundred posts ago that someone made an unholy sword on a paladin, and they were not taking any negative levels when the item was equip?

Several confused people thought that alignment restrictions were waived, but that was untrue.

They were only "waived" insofar as you can equip Good Burst / Evil Burst without needing to be Good / Evil aligned. But of course, since there is no other way to get Good Burst / Evil Burst in DDO, there actually never was an alignment requirement on them in the first place.

[Milolyen]

Question: The character that has this is Neutral Good. And I take a negative level when I equip the item? Was this something recently changed for crafted items? I seem to remember several hundred posts ago that someone made an unholy sword on a paladin, and they were not taking any negative levels when the item was equip?

...Graz

As the above poster said the evil burst did not come with alignment restriction however there have been unholy weapons in game (though they are VERY rare) and they have the restriction on them and if you read the discription of unholy it states that "good charactures weilding this weapon suffer a negative lvl". I am pretty sure the evil burst doesn't because its requirement would be that any non-evil aligned charactures weilding this weapon suffer a negative lvl and since you can not create evil charactures that would be just welll "EVIL" lol (sorry had to say it).

Milolyen

P.S. Thanks everyone for all the usefull info in this great thread.

[Falcion]

So I am planning ahead for multiple crafted items. I would like to make the E+P+E/P as a helm for the hvy fort and +5 prot then the immunity item N+N+N as a necklace. BTW, this is for a cleric.

Here is what I want to do:
Helm:
Tier 1- Greater acid resist
Tier 2- +15hp +2 con skills
Tier 3- +20hp +3 con skills / positive shard for +5 prot /hvy fort bonus

Necklace
Tier 1- Blindness/Disease Immunity
Tier 2- Fear/Poison Immunity
Tier 3- 20hp +3 str skills.

I have a great DB item so dont need to overlap. The question is, will the 20hps at tier 3 stack or not? I would assume not but, would like to know if anyone has tried 2 tier 1 or tier 2 hp effects as a test. If general consensus is they wont, which would be better +2 fort or +10 more acid resist?

Thanks

If you are a cleric and don't need the fort I'd make one of your tier 3's a +100 SP's unless you already have a SP item. All ya have to do is go "any focus" + Gem of Escalation + Etherial Essence

[Rafal]

Disint, PK, FOD, Destruction, Slay living, nausea (from non-troglodyte sources), a few rare paralysis effects.

+3 con skills does NOT include fortitude saving throws, by the way. When it says skills, in this case it means skill: Concentration, the lone con-based skill.

PK is will save