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    (Standard): Altar of Subjugation success with Shavarath Power Concentration! Consumed: Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Shavarath Medium Energy Cell. Created: Gem of Escalation.

    (Standard): Altar of Subjugation success with Shavarath Power Concentration! Consumed: Medium Gnawed Bone, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Shavarath Medium Energy Cell. Created: Focus of Air.
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    (Standard): Altar of Subjugation success with Shavarath Power Concentration! Consumed: Shavarath Medium Energy Cell, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Devil Scales. Created: Material Essence.

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    Ore of Travail + Green Taper + Wonderous Oil + Energy Orb + Signet = Fail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deragoth View Post
    Ore of Travail + Green Taper + Wonderous Oil + Energy Orb + Signet = Fail
    Thanks..Ore and Green dont mix...


    Updated the following...can probalby extrapolate taht the recipies are all the same...but interesting about the horn ingredient not fitting in the altar.

    Subjugation Manufactured Ingredients "Tier 2"


    These ingredients can be combined to make "Tier 2" or Manufactured Ingredients using an Shavarath (Medium Energy Cell)

    Depleted Medium Energy Cell can be powered with an Junk Item of +7 or greater

    *** All Matching Invasion Recipe so far ***

    Gem of Escalation: M.Chain, M.Scales, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone, Medium Energy Cell
    Material Essence: M.Shrapnel, M.Arrowhead, M.Stone, M.Scales, Medium Energy Cell
    ???: M.Scale, M.Bones, M.Shrapnel, M.Arrowhead, Medium Energy Cell
    Focus of Air: M.Arrowhead, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone, M.Bone, Medium Energy Cell
    Focus of Positive Energy: M.Bone, M.Stone, M.Arrowhead, M.Scales, Medium Energy Cell
    ???: M.Chain, M.Bone, M.Arrow, M.Stone, Medium Energy Cell
    Focus of Negative Energy: M.Chain, M.Arrow, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone, Medium Energy Cell
    ???: M.Chain, M.Arrow, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone, Medium Energy Cell
    ???: M.Chain, M.Bone, M.Scale, M.Stone, Medium Energy Cell
    ???: M.Chain, M.Shrapnel, M.Scales, M.Bone, Medium Energy Cell

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    Default Shard of Power with no affinity

    Just looted a shard of power that has no affinity out of the chest for the first phase of the raid. Any ideas on what it might be used for or if someone has already mentioned it please let me know as this thread is very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yori Firebeard View Post
    Just looted a shard of power that has no affinity out of the chest for the first phase of the raid. Any ideas on what it might be used for or if someone has already mentioned it please let me know as this thread is very long.
    You combine a Shard of Power with a Focus, Gem, and Essence (and power source) to make an Imbued Shard. Imbued Shard + Green Steel item + power source is what finally adds an actual enchantment to the green steel.

    Shards of Power drop rarely and are bind on acquire, adding more grind to the supposedly convenient crafting mechanic. They also don't stack and don't go into any containers, adding more inconvenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambo
    Subjugation Manufactured Ingredients "Tier 2"


    These ingredients can be combined to make "Tier 2" or Manufactured Ingredients using an Shavarath (Medium Energy Cell)
    Depleted Medium Energy Cell can be powered with an Junk Item of +7 or greater

    *** All Matching Invasion Recipe so far ***

    Gem of Escalation: M.Chain, M.Scales, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone, Medium Energy Cell
    Material Essence: M.Shrapnel, M.Arrowhead, M.Stone, M.Scales, Medium Energy Cell
    ???: M.Scale, M.Bones, M.Shrapnel, M.Arrowhead, Medium Energy Cell
    Focus of Air: M.Arrowhead, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone, M.Bone, Medium Energy Cell
    Focus of Positive Energy: M.Bone, M.Stone, M.Arrowhead, M.Scales, Medium Energy Cell
    ???: M.Chain, M.Bone, M.Arrow, M.Stone, Medium Energy Cell
    Focus of Negative Energy: M.Chain, M.Arrow, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone, Medium Energy Cell
    ???: M.Chain, M.Arrow, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone, Medium Energy Cell
    ???: M.Chain, M.Bone, M.Scale, M.Stone, Medium Energy Cell
    ???: M.Chain, M.Shrapnel, M.Scales, M.Bone, Medium Energy Cell
    It looks like the pattern for the recipes for the altar of Invasion and Subjugation are the same for the foci, but the heigher level foci require medium or large versions of the ingredients
    I.E.
    Inferior focus of Air: Arrowhead, Shrapnel, Stone, Bone, Low Energy Cell
    Focus of Air: M.Arrowhead, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone, M.Bone, Medium Energy Cell

    So it should be safe to assume the preceding and fill in your missing Foci names for the Medium and Large ingredients
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    Theoretically it's safe, but I'd at least visibly mark the ones that are extrapolated rather than confirmed. There still may be some differences, or there could be bugs (in the sense of a code copy & paste error, where two of them are reversed).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boulderun View Post
    Shards of Power drop rarely and are bind on acquire, adding more grind to the supposedly convenient crafting mechanic. They also don't stack and don't go into any containers, adding more inconvenience.
    Um... wow.

    Shouldn't all ingredients go into ingredients bags? That's bad news indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTheurge View Post
    Um... wow.

    Shouldn't all ingredients go into ingredients bags? That's bad news indeed.
    You can carry one in your trinket slot, though!

    Seems to me like a bug, since they don't appear to do anything when equipped. Maybe it's intended for something we haven't discovered, though.

    Other exceedingly lame things:

    -Siberys dragonshards (all above fragment level) stack, but don't go into any containers.
    -Shroud collectibles don't stack or go into any containers (or work properly on pickup; these aren't really broken, they're actually not even fully implemented as evidenced by the 'WRITE ME' descriptions. Yet they don't even qualify as a 'known issue')
    -Crafting bags do not group ingredients by altar, which is such a no-brainer it's absurd. Collectible bags group those by the collector NPC, it's the same **** thing.
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    Default Don't craft ;)

    edit: moved to new post for clarity
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpk View Post
    (Standard): Altar of Invasion success with Shavarath Transformation! Consumed: Shard of Power, Shavarath Low Energy Cell.
    Created: Green Steel Goggles. Green Steel Goggles becomes Lieutenant Green Steel Goggles of Resistance (Will).

    A guildy made +5 Will Goggles don't try this combo

    I'll get a pic later, pretty sure it was resistance save bonus...
    We need to know what he combined to imbue the Shard of Power in order to use or avoid that combo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpk View Post

    I'll get a pic later, pretty sure it was resistance save bonus...
    Would be a shame if it was a resistance bonus and didnt stack like other effects we have already seen. I would not have minded increasing my fighters will by 5 in a goggles slot.
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    Default adamantine ritual

    can you update the adamantine ritual by adding the instructions for creating the soul stones. their seems to be some confusion about this and i would like to here from someone who has actually done it. also, if an item is bound (like dragon scale armor) does is still have to be attuned before the adamantine ritual is performed. i have wasted a bunch of khyber dragon shard fragments trying to figure this out.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by genericearthling View Post
    can you update the adamantine ritual by adding the instructions for creating the soul stones. their seems to be some confusion about this and i would like to here from someone who has actually done it. also, if an item is bound (like dragon scale armor) does is still have to be attuned before the adamantine ritual is performed. i have wasted a bunch of khyber dragon shard fragments trying to figure this out.
    Thanks
    I haven't 'done' it... but after failing miserably enough times, I'm pretty sure I have it down now.

    Yes, even if the item is bound, you still need to attune it. That will cost you 196 dragonshard fragments for your dragonscale armor.

    After that, you're going to need 10 soul gem: essences of earth. Those are the medium gems. You need to capture 10 earth elemental souls, with HD from 11-20. It'll take 10,000 dragonshard fragments to make the 10 required small dragonshards.

    Then go find some earth elementals. Large earth elementals are too small, so you'll want to find some greater earth elementals. My advice would be to check the first area in BAM, while you're getting the 10 ores. Make sure to enervate and curse 'em a few times to guarantee you don't waste a 1,000 fragment cast.

    Then, take your 10 soul gems, your BAM ore, and your item... and go to town.

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    Thumbs down People Don't Read

    Clearly nobody read the fine detail in my previous post, I answered many questions people are still asking.

    Go ahead, keep buying power cells from the auction!! Or waiting for them to drop in.. chests.. lol.
    Go ahead, keep wasting your time trying to combine 3 stones of might, or whatever convoluted nonsense you dream up.

    Oh, and go ahead and keep missing to post necessary details when you are making your combines. Like all those creation recipes for shards... Most people actually believe you don't need a shard of power for some strange reason.

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    I figure it might be worth noting the number of recipes so far found, and how many may be left to find.

    Fecundity/Invasion/Subjugation/Devastation Tier 1 => Tier 2 (completed)
    Choose 4 items from a set of 6
    6!/(4!2!) = 15 combinations
    15 * 4 altars = 60 valid recipes (Fecundity & Invasion confirmed, Subjugation & Devastation speculated)

    Fecundity Tier 2 => green steel blanks
    Choose 3 items from a set of 15
    15!/(3!12!) = 455 combinations (20 valid so far)
    However, many combinations are not valid.
    Also, we're missing several weapon types, rings, and all armor and shield types. Perhaps some of these other combinations will get turned on later?

    green steel weapons: Ore + yellow/red/blue + balm/jewel/oil/scarab
    1 * 3 * 4 = 12 combinations
    12 valid recipes

    green steel weave items: filaments + violet/green + balm/jewel/oil/scarab
    1 * 2 * 4 = 8 combinations
    8 valid recipes

    Have these been tried?
    ore + filament + taper
    ore + filament + wonderous
    ore + taper + taper
    ore + wonderous + wonderous
    filament + taper + taper
    filament + wonderous + wonderous
    taper + taper + wonderous
    wonderous + wonderous + taper

    upgrades:
    focus + gem + essence = upgrade
    6 * 3 * 2 = 36 upgrades of each size

    each item/weapon can have 1, 2, or 3 upgrades, but only 1 small, 1 medium, and 1 large upgrade, and assuming it doesn't matter which order the upgrade happens
    An upgrade works one way for a weapons, and possibly another way for an item.
    1 upgrade: 3 possible (S, M, or L) => 3 * 2 * 36 = 216 combinations to try (6 small, 1 medium valid so far)
    2 upgrades: 3 possible (SM, ML, or SL) => 3 * 2 * 36 * 36 = 7776 combinations (1 SM valid so far)
    3 upgrades: 1 possible (SML) => 1 * 2 * 36 * 36 *36 = 93312 combinations (none valid so far)

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtherSRG View Post
    Have these been tried?
    ore + filament + taper
    ore + filament + wonderous
    ore + taper + taper
    ore + wonderous + wonderous
    filament + taper + taper
    filament + wonderous + wonderous
    taper + taper + wonderous
    wonderous + wonderous + taper
    Some of them, yes. There are a couple spread sheets in the first post. The only successes so far follow the patter of: Key Ingredient (ore or filament) + taper + wonderous where weapons are ore and primary color tapers and Accessories are filaments and secondary color tapers.

    It would seem to be coded to require unique recipes (where ingredients do not repeat) so that the stack substraction is not an issue. i.e. Many people are putting in stacks of each ingredient and not one of each. The alter subtracts the correct amout and leaves the rest. Duplicating ingredients in the recipe would make coding for this messier. That said, I did try around 40 or so duplicates recipies just to feel better about that conclusion. None of them worked.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtherSRG View Post
    upgrades:
    focus + gem + essence = upgrade
    6 * 3 * 2 = 36 upgrades of each size

    each item/weapon can have 1, 2, or 3 upgrades, but only 1 small, 1 medium, and 1 large upgrade, and assuming it doesn't matter which order the upgrade happens
    An upgrade works one way for a weapons, and possibly another way for an item.
    1 upgrade: 3 possible (S, M, or L) => 3 * 2 * 36 = 216 combinations to try (6 small, 1 medium valid so far)
    2 upgrades: 3 possible (SM, ML, or SL) => 3 * 2 * 36 * 36 = 7776 combinations (1 SM valid so far)
    3 upgrades: 1 possible (SML) => 1 * 2 * 36 * 36 *36 = 93312 combinations (none valid so far)
    I dont know that anyone has tried updgrading a blank with a Medium before adding a Small. A Meduim may require that a Small be present, which would at least knock down your 1 and 2 upgrade numbers. Maybe I will try that tonight.

    The other pattern I see coming out here is that Tier 1 upgrades and Tier 2 upgrades dont mix to make something different they just add different affects with possible synergies if the same matierals are used. That would make the total number of individual effects for 3 upgrades: (36 effects *3 upgrades *2 item types = 216) + Synergies?. What exactly is needed for a synergy I havent seen yet. It could be you need to use the same Foci, Gem, AND Essence for all upgrades, or possibly just the same Foci, Gem, OR essence. We will have to see as more Tier 2 and 3 uppgrade combos are tried. Though, I suspect that it will be along the just Foci line since that is the only thing that shows up on the actual item (Affinity to XXX), which would limit it down to 5 Synergies at any level with a total of maybe 30 new effects.
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    "100 Siberys Dragonshard Fragments : Flawed Siberys Dragonshard
    10 Flawed Siberys DragonShards : Imperfect Siberys Dragonshard"


    so this is the only use for the siberys fragments? to eventually make imperfect dragonshards?

    This is the only thing I have found alot of, but imperfect does nothing for my high level toon at all. Wonder if ten imperfects will make a high level 1?
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    Flaweds can be recombined into Imperfect Siberys Shards, and Imperfect into full Siberys shards. They appear to have no use beyond that point other than paying Fred to rearrange your brain.
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