Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook

[Sharzade]

I can see that from here already:

<funny british accent>Look! I sucked the life out of this little suckers! Hahahahaha!!! You guys think I could suck the life out of the tavern?</funny british accent>

Aye, reckon I could be very impressed by the instakill of implosion. The occasional one time vacuum cleaner effect. It would be such fun to suck the life out of unfortunate blighters who dare cross my path! Perhaps I could even take out the Ward of Kundarak, pubs and all! True happiness is in the eye of the beholder, don't y'see?

Cheers,

Sharzade

[Wulf_Ratbane]

Has anyone upgraded either Aspect of Steam, or Aspect of Vacuum yet? I'm curious about the results.

I wouldn't try for Vacuum II.

Rumor has it it totally sucks.

[Zaodon]

You are confused somehow. The "OPPOSITE" two elements from earth-air are air-earth, not fire-water.

No, the Opposite of Air is Earth. The Opposite of Earth is Air.

But.

What is the opposite of BoLaS (Air+Earth) ?

Think hard on this: Fire+Earth = Magma. Does Magma have an opposite? Yes. Is it Magma? Of course not. Its Ice.

Look at this diagram.



You can clearly see Ice is the opposite of Magma.

So, we have "special" combos. Hmm, what does "Special" mean?
It means they are Opposites, that don't normally exist in regular D&D, but do in DDO.

So, logically, if they are opposites, then the combo for an opposite, is an OPPOSITE.

Hence:
BoLaS + Tempered
Tempered + BoLaS
Ex. Stale + Ex. Stale (because pos/neg is the opposite of pos/neg).

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

So, we have "special" combos. Hmm, what does "Special" mean?
It means they are Opposites, that don't normally exist in regular D&D, but do in DDO.

The term 'special' is one coined by the DDO designers to refer to the three extra 2nd tier combinations they placed in the game which are not 'traditional' DDO lore. These are fire/water (tempered) earth/air (Balance of Land and Sky) and pos/neg (existential stalemate)

Eladrin has said that these 'special' upgrades sometimes require more than just adding the same two elements you already added. 'Sometimes' because we've seen that Existential Stalemate worked. I still suspect adding Tempered to BoLaS and seeing what happens - in fact, a guildy is already preparing for this but is quite a few ingredients away so happy for someone else to try it

Regards,

Garth

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

I wouldn't try for Vacuum II.

Rumor has it it totally sucks.

Vacuum 2: item does the vacuuming for you
Dust 2: item does the dusting for you
Steam 2: item does the ironing for you

If only there was a way to get all three at once.

Garth

[sirgog]

I wouldn't try for Vacuum II.

Rumor has it it totally sucks.

Please, leave the Dad jokes off the forums

[EspyLacopa]

No, the Opposite of Air is Earth. The Opposite of Earth is Air.

But.

What is the opposite of BoLaS (Air+Earth) ?

Think hard on this: Fire+Earth = Magma. Does Magma have an opposite? Yes. Is it Magma? Of course not. Its Ice.

</snip>

So, we have "special" combos. Hmm, what does "Special" mean?
It means they are Opposites, that don't normally exist in regular D&D, but do in DDO.

So, logically, if they are opposites, then the combo for an opposite, is an OPPOSITE.

Hence:
BoLaS + Tempered
Tempered + BoLaS
Ex. Stale + Ex. Stale (because pos/neg is the opposite of pos/neg).

Magma: Earth/Fire
Ice: Air/Water

Air: Opposite of Earth
Water: Opposite of Fire

Thus, Ice is Opposite of Magma.

Balance of Land and Sky: Earth/Air
Air: Opposite of Earth
Earth: Opposite of Air

Thus, opposite of Balance of Land and Sky. . .is itself. It has no opposite. At the same time, it's its own opposite. And thus, a paradox. The same applies to the Tempered and Existential Stalemate combos.

[jjflanigan]

Vacuum 2: item does the vacuuming for you
Dust 2: item does the dusting for you
Steam 2: item does the ironing for you

If only there was a way to get all three at once.

Garth

There is...it's called a wife....

(totally joking, please don't kill me!)

[Zaodon]

Magma: Earth/Fire
Ice: Air/Water

Air: Opposite of Earth
Water: Opposite of Fire

Thus, Ice is Opposite of Magma.

Balance of Land and Sky: Earth/Air
Air: Opposite of Earth
Earth: Opposite of Air

Thus, opposite of Balance of Land and Sky. . .is itself. It has no opposite. At the same time, it's its own opposite. And thus, a paradox. The same applies to the Tempered and Existential Stalemate combos.

You aren't getting it, at all.

Try this picture.



Point to the Opposite of BoLaS on the picture.

Clearly, its Tempered.

[Zaodon]

There is...it's called a wife....

(totally joking, please don't kill me!)

(cue the dramatic music)



Ooooooo! You in trouuuuubleeeeeee !

[Eudimio]

Not too impressive. 20% always-active blur. Screenshots will follow.

[EspyLacopa]

You aren't getting it, at all.

Try this picture.



Point to the Opposite of BoLaS on the picture.

Clearly, its Tempered.

Actually, if you open your mind a bit more to the fact that it is, in fact, three dimensional. . .It could also be Existential Stalemate ^_^
It also runs perpendicular to BoLaS.

HOWEVER

Opposites in that picture are not those that are perpendicular. . .they are those that are flipped. Scross the center.(Such as your Magma/Ice bit, another example would be Salt and Radiance.) Flip BoLaS over center. . .and you get BoLaS.

[sirgog]

Not too impressive. 20% always-active blur. Screenshots will follow.

Is this an item or a weapon?

[Borror0]

There is...it's called a wife....

Thought the same.

Is this an item or a weapon?

I'd guess on an accessory.

[Angelus_dead]

You aren't getting it, at all.

We all get it just fine. It's you who have the problem.... what you're writing now is not what you wrote before. Apparently English is not your main language. You contradict yourself at various times, and don't even know it.

You're using the word "opposite" to mean something besides what it really means.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

Actually, if you open your mind a bit more to the fact that it is, in fact, three dimensional. . .It could also be Existential Stalemate ^_^
It also runs perpendicular to BoLaS.

HOWEVER

Opposites in that picture are not those that are perpendicular. . .they are those that are flipped. Scross the center.(Such as your Magma/Ice bit, another example would be Salt and Radiance.) Flip BoLaS over center. . .and you get BoLaS.

I think in this discussion it's important we take into account Fleming's Left Hand Rule.



Garth

[Eudimio]

Well, here it is. I was hoping for a blinding effect. Looks like I gotta try Dust 2 next!

Aspect of Smoke Longsword

http://imageduck.com/v/screenshot00070505.jpg

Taco Supreme Shard

http://imageduck.com/v/screenshot00069.jpg

+5 Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Longsword of Smoke

http://imageduck.com/v/screenshot00075f9a.jpg

A couple of things: Displacement is only 2x per day, listed in Ink's chart as 3x. The fire shard was dominant over air. I placed the fire shard in first. I'll leave that one to you guys!

Thanks to everyone that helped me craft this. My guildies helped out a lot, especially Toro, Grizzzz, and Piro. And Ink traded me a few right before the raid, and Halspex made an emergency trade at the altar, lol. And thanks to the Free Companions for putting up with my slow crafting. Oh, and thanks to whomever put that battleaxe in the auction house (see first screenshot).

Happy Hunting.

[The_Cataclysm]

Well, here it is. I was hoping for a blinding effect. Looks like I gotta try Dust 2 next!

I think Radiance is the more likely upgrade path to feature a blinding effect.

[Xaxx]

so if i went

air/dom/mat
air/dom/mat
for the first 2 and tried kargons
air/dom/mat+pos/dom/mat

any ideas what would happen, would it screw u p and give me the haste gaurd and be air 2, would it give me the lightning strike or would it give me something different

[The_Cataclysm]

so if i went

air/dom/mat
air/dom/mat
for the first 2 and tried kargons
air/dom/mat+pos/dom/mat

any ideas what would happen, would it screw u p and give me the haste gaurd and be air 2, would it give me the lightning strike or would it give me something different

My guess is either nothing or air 2.