Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook

[Lebrac]

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

Autocrits while frozen or just makes target immobile?

Just immobile:



Garth

[Kargon]

Like Ice Flensers do?

very rarelamally ice flensers do some close range melee attack that can freeze target in block of ice. kargon only ever see in tempest spine ice flensermer twice and once on othermer ice flensamer cant remembamer where.

[Tanka]

Just immobile:

Mmmm, Broodcicle.

No autocrits, but still pretty nice, considering.

Unfortunately, it'll have very limited use versus red/purples.

I wonder though, does FoM protect against the frozen status?

[Borror0]

No autocrits, but still pretty nice, considering.

Not really, Earthgrab seems better...

[nbhs275]

IF its just any combinations of positive/lightning, then my clerics greatsword is going to be killer. holy shocking burst sup devotion 6 of crazy lightning woopass.

[Tanka]

Not really, Earthgrab seems better...

Good point, I'd forgotten on that one. Plus Acid/Acid gets you a nifty pet to play around with.

[Cambo]

Hrmmm the last 2 items created got damage strike type effects and thier upgrade Tier 3 was a damage Tier.

Is it possible that there are more than 1 effect possible eg. if you put acid blast (in mineral II shard) on a mineral 1 weaon you would get a special acid effect or still the transmuting / keen / slicing ?

(Overall I would think breaking DR each swing on DR mobs would average out to similar damage to the lighning effect but no chance of 1 bit damage hit.)

Lets hope it is still the transmuting effect.......otherwise things will get too complex.

[Kargon]

IF its just any combinations of positive/lightning, then my clerics greatsword is going to be killer. holy shocking burst sup devotion 6 of crazy lightning woopass.

we beginnaming to suspect the air going to override the posimitive on the final tier upgramade, since the weapamon lists 'air and posimitive' (air first) in the 'aspect of' descriptimion. so would not be able to put lightnaming II on a weapamon with superior devotimion at same time if this turn out be true.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

I wonder though, does FoM protect against the frozen status?

Yes - it would appear FOM protects you against it.

Garth

[Borror0]

we beginnaming to suspect the air going to override the posimitive on the final tier upgramade, since the weapamon lists 'air and posimitive' (air first) in the 'aspect of' descriptimion. so would not be able to put lightnaming II on a weapamon with superior devotimion at same time if this turn out be true.

(Party): [Party] Kargona: combining two shards, putting air first

As a result, maybe order matters.

EDIT: Pecky also put air first and got Shocking Blast.

[Tanka]

Yes - it would appear FOM protects you against it.

Garth

Hm. So less useful than Acid/Acid/Acid in many instances. That seems kind of... disappointing, really.

Maybe if they had made the ability more like the white dragon's freezing aura instead?

[Borror0]

So less useful than Acid/Acid/Acid in many instances.

Depends on how often both occur. If Freezing Ice happens much more often then Earthgrab...

[Tanka]

Depends on how often both occur. If Freezing Ice happens much more often then Earthgrab...

But doesn't give autocrits, both have saves and can be protected against with FoM...

Acid seems to be universally less resisted against as well, and takes only 12 larges instead of 24.

Testing seems to be in order!

[Borror0]

Depends on how often both occur. If Freezing Ice happens much more often then Earthgrab...

But doesn't give autocrits, both have saves and can be protected against with FoM...

Better now?

Depends on how often both occur. If Freezing Ice happens much more often then Earthgrab...

[Tanka]

Better now?

Nope.

[nbhs275]

we beginnaming to suspect the air going to override the posimitive on the final tier upgramade, since the weapamon lists 'air and posimitive' (air first) in the 'aspect of' descriptimion. so would not be able to put lightnaming II on a weapamon with superior devotimion at same time if this turn out be true.

hmm, now the question that we have to find an answer for is if there is a dominant element scheme, or if order matters. That will make a big difference.

I gotta say the chances of the tier 3 bonus effecting the tier 3 effect is slim. That would mean that there is 5+ abilities for each quasi-elemental combination.

[Keneith]

Autocrits while frozen or just makes target immobile?

Kargon: Looks like you made Thor's hammer.

Well....if only Kargon makes a returning Throwing Hammer, that will b a real Thor's hammer
It will b really cool if u throw the hammer n Kaboom! Lightning strike! that will b way too cool.

[Borror0]

hmm, now the question that we have to find an answer for is if there is a dominant element scheme, or if order matters. That will make a big difference.

I gotta say the chances of the tier 3 bonus effecting the tier 3 effect is slim. That would mean that there is 5+ abilities for each quasi-elemental combination.

Just try it, put Positive first in the Altar and see what it gives.

[Mavnimo]

I recently tried -OM/+EE/(+EE/-OM). i was able to make the Supreme +EE and the Supreme -OM. I tried to combine the 2 with an energy cell and it failed. My next attempt will be to make a -EE supreme shard, which i know will combine into the final Shard but im not sure whether the final combination will result in concordant opposotion. Just to add more information, i tried it twice swapping the order pos/neg/cell then neg/pos/cell.