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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    I've been thinking the same, but who would be willing to waste 12 large ingrediants to try that?
    The other thing that a cleric or arcane can do is go for a 24 large ingredients combo weapon.. For a cleric have one half of it give you wisdom and the other half give you devotion and see how that works. It would still be a nice weapon whatever you get..
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    I appreciate the effort. It will be some time before I can craft a tier 3 special upgrade. For every tier 3 upgrade that does not result in a special, I would be happy to send an ingredient to the crafter if they are on the same server, to help with some of the pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    The other thing that a cleric or arcane can do is go for a 24 large ingredients combo weapon.. For a cleric have one half of it give you wisdom and the other half give you devotion and see how that works. It would still be a nice weapon whatever you get..
    Eh, as a Cleric myself who is usually wand/scroll (which can't be used in the off hand) and shield, I really don't want something that affects my spell points/offensive casting on something I'm usually not able to use much. It would probably work ok for a Battle Cleric that does most of his healing with sp while fighting, but for a pure healer build or a offensive/defensive casting Cleric, who does a lot of wand/scroll healing it's a pain to have your Wisdom/Devotion/Potency on a weapon. Also, if you weild a weapon but don't fight, people may mistake you for a slacker... thats why a lot of pure healer or offensive/defensive casting spec'd Clerics use scepters instead for things like potency/devotion/lore etc when they either can't find an appropriate accessory or don't have an accessory slot available... it makes them less likely to be mistaken for a Battle Cleric who is just slacking on the job.

    The Existential Stalemate bonus to Wisdom on an accessory really takes care of that issue though... was very, very happy about that.... entirely changed what I was planning on. My concern was more for arcane casters than divine ones in regard to my earlier post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    It would still be a nice weapon whatever you get..
    Not really. If you want the wisdom, then the Devotion will suck.

    If the Devotion is Superior Devotion VI, then it sucks further more... unless you're a Battle cleric...
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    I will be adding to the 4th post in this thread a list of important pages in crafting research for easy reference.

    Please provide any suggstions of pages/posts (I think linking directly to the post is a pain as you cant then browse responses).

    I will go through the thread myself over time but any suggested links will be implemented Quickly.

    I will also make the first post have more of an index and other important links like the crafting spreadsheets.
    The first post will also contain the page at which I have last read to update information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    Why not simply "Elemental Harmony"?
    You mean exactly what I named 43 posts ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    Not really. If you want the wisdom, then the Devotion will suck.

    If the Devotion is Superior Devotion VI, then it sucks further more... unless you're a Battle cleric...

    Sup devoition six on a +5 holy acid burst transmuting keen slicing greatsword would be pretty bang up for any cleric. Swing swing heal!
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    We've seen what Aspect of Mineral II does on weapons. Has anyone seen what effect it has on clothing/accessories?

    Also, what's the damage and procs of the elemental and good guards on clothing from the Altar of Devastation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Bombardier View Post
    You mean exactly what I named 43 posts ago?
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...44#post1602444
    Yeah, but it only got a good idea after I said it.

    Quote Originally Posted by nbhs275 View Post
    Sup devoition six on a +5 holy acid burst transmuting keen slicing greatsword would be pretty bang up for any cleric. Swing swing heal!
    Lots of cleric don't "Swing n' heal" you know. But I agree that it's be nice for the Battle clerics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preylor View Post
    We've seen what Aspect of Mineral II does on weapons. Has anyone seen what effect it has on clothing/accessories?
    None that I've seen reported, although I think it's a safe bet to assume that weapon and item effects differ on 4 focus enchantments as they do with 3 focus enchantments given what Aspect of Mineral II imparted to a weapon.

    Someone I believe theorized that it might be a permanent form of DR... that would be in keeping with the stoneskin clicky imparted with Aspect of Mineral I. It could end up possibly being perhaps some kind of lesser stoneskin but with a permanent effect, perhaps an ac bonus as well... I can see something along those lines happening.

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    If I go Material + Escalation + Positive and then Material + Escalation + negative (or vise versa) on my bracers I would get +25 HP and +6 wisdom from existential stalement right? Just want to double check that that is the case. 'Cause that would clear up a slot for my ranger and get him some extra hp. Would be awesome. Thx for the help in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilandrya View Post
    Someone I believe theorized that it might be a permanent form of DR... that would be in keeping with the stoneskin clicky imparted with Aspect of Mineral I. It could end up possibly being perhaps some kind of lesser stoneskin but with a permanent effect, perhaps an ac bonus as well... I can see something along those lines happening.
    I'd doubt of a perma DR, to be honest.

    It's not synergetic with a Stoneskin clicky, bad design to me.
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    Agreed. Plus, there aren't many items that grant any DR right now. Adamantine items and a few pieces of Full Plate, but otherwise it's only Bloodrage Symbiot, Stoneskin, Angel Skin, Barb granted abilities, Barb Action Boost and... That's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    I'd doubt of a perma DR, to be honest.

    It's not synergetic with a Stoneskin clicky, bad design to me.

    It would depend upon how much the perma dr was for... there are already some in game anyway, and if the stoneskin clicky stacks depending upon how they list the bonus, an additonal + for a short while... the clicky iteself isn't perm.

    These 24 large ingredient upgrades would have to be a bit on the uber side to be worth it, and I don't really know what else the devs would do on this.. maybe make the item a little more durable/hard like they did with the weapons, but other than that I can't really think of anything besides dr or ac for mineral II on an accessory. Hypothetical of course... will just have to wait and see.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tanka View Post
    Agreed. Plus, there aren't many items that grant any DR right now. Adamantine items and a few pieces of Full Plate, but otherwise it's only Bloodrage Symbiot, Stoneskin, Angel Skin, Barb granted abilities, Barb Action Boost and... That's it.
    There's the named boots that give striding and 3 dr also.... can't remember what they are called offhand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildrenofBodom View Post
    If I go Material + Escalation + Positive and then Material + Escalation + negative (or vise versa) on my bracers I would get +25 HP and +6 wisdom from existential stalement right? Just want to double check that that is the case. 'Cause that would clear up a slot for my ranger and get him some extra hp. Would be awesome. Thx for the help in advance.
    Go Positive then Negative to have the greatest chances to obtain Concordant Opposition. Besides, Positive gives +Con and Negative gives +Str so I guess you'd rather a bonus to strength skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilandrya View Post
    These 24 large ingredient upgrades would have to be a bit on the uber side to be worth it, and I don't really know what else the devs would do on this.. maybe make the item a little more durable/hard like they did with the weapons, but other than that I can't really think of anything besides dr or ac for mineral II on an accessory. Hypothetical of course... will just have to wait and see.
    How about Exceptional Damage Reduction? Seems a theme with these Green Steel recipes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilandrya View Post
    There's the named boots that give striding and 3 dr also.... can't remember what they are called offhand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    Go Positive then Negative to have the greatest chances to obtain Concordant Opposition. Besides, Positive gives +Con and Negative gives +Str so I guess you'd rather a bonus to strength skills.
    Actually I would prefer concentration over jump and swim. But I will go pos then neg to get concodant opposition. Thx Borror0
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildrenofBodom View Post
    Actually I would prefer concentration over jump and swim. But I will go pos then neg to get concodant opposition. Thx Borror0
    ...or take a potential 'hit for the team', go negative then positive then try and still get concordant opposition and (dis)prove some theories!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanka View Post
    Agreed. Plus, there aren't many items that grant any DR right now. Adamantine items and a few pieces of Full Plate, but otherwise it's only Bloodrage Symbiot, Stoneskin, Angel Skin, Barb granted abilities, Barb Action Boost and... That's it.
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