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CaptGrim, I like your format better. So in the longterm I think we should go with yours. But for now I'm going to keep mine up so we can double check each other. I've added some of the combinations you reported in your spreadsheet to mine though (the failures).
By my count, we are missing more combinations:
Assuming items are: Filaments + Taper + Wondrous, then we are missing:
Filaments + Blue + Balm
Filaments + Blue + Oil
Filaments + Green + Balm
Filaments + Green + Scarab
Filaments + Red + Oil
Filaments + Violet + Oil
Filaments + Yellow + Balm
Filaments + Yellow + Jewel
Filaments + Yellow + Oil
Filaments + Yellow + Scarab
Assuming weapons are: Ore + Taper + Wondrous, then we are missing:
Ore+ Blue + Balm
Ore+ Blue + Scarab
Ore+ Green + Balm
Ore+ Green + Jewel
Ore+ Red + Balm
Ore+ Violet + Balm
Ore+ Violet + Scarab
Ore+ Yellow + Jewel
I would still like to check the other combinations (three tapers, ore + filament + other, etc.) to make sure there aren't any surprises. My complete list of combinations is here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...zJRx5CcCEpCaYg
Cheers,
Ink
We almost certainly are missing a set of combinations. Here is what we are missing:
2 Jewelry/Clothing (ring and trinket)
30 different weapons (includes 4 thrown weapons)
14 armors
4 shields (not counting wooden and steel separately)
That's 50 potential items we might need to find.
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From the way I see it:
red, blue, and yellow tapers + ore make weapons( = 12 )
Green, violet tapers + filiments make items ( = 8 )
BUT because of lack of data we are unsure about ore+filiments+taper/wonderous. ( that would = 9 BTW )
robe, padded, leather, studded, chainshirt, breastplate, chainmail, scale, half-plate, banded, full-plate = 11 (And I'm sure I forgot 2-4)
so thats is possible, ( need more fail data )
Perhaps its ore+filiments+wonderous( 4 BTW)
robe, light , med, heavy, more plauseable I think,
But IMO guys we really may be done(with greensteel), I'll update whatever you find today but I'm going to spend my Sunday raiding ....ALOT
I like Ink's format better, because it shows all the possible combinations and is easier to read for me. Hope you don't stop updating it!
Thelanis - Umber Hulks
Kulhwch Olwen - Elf Bard 20 | Eriku Yamazaki - Human Fighter 16 | Elaugyl Rilynval - Drow Rogue 16
Natchan Tokugawa - Halfling Paladin 12 | Laloicen Wyllt - Human Sorcerer 11
Medium gnawed Bone
Medium Glowing Arrowhead
Medium energy cell
Medium Tqwisted Shrapnel
Medium Sulfurous Stone
All those in the alter of subjugation gave me a Focus of Air
Like a flighty, swirling, miniature tornado, this object sounds like the wind and is very difficult to hold onto. This item is resonating like the Altar of Subjugation.
Cannon
I'll keep updating it, no worries.
Ink
After reading all this I'm more confused about crafting then before. I think I will need to wait for the idiots guide to come out.
infernal chains, gnawed bone, shrapnel etc.
Everything that is small *something* can be found as medium and large later on in the raid chests.
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http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...1-hvtzK3YUAeHA
did that work?
Aesop
Last edited by Aesop; 02-03-2008 at 09:50 PM.
Rule 1: Don't sweat the small stuff
Rule 2: Its all small stuff
Rule 3: People are stupid. You, me everyone... expect it
more rules to come in a different sig
Unless I missed a post
** Seems to be missing 1 red taper combination that looks obvious...hasnt shown up as false on the chart yet.
..okay found it ...Warhammer...sorry
Also CaptGrim...cant print "useably" your spreadsheet as background colours dont seem to print....
MAjor update done to main post
Green Steele Weapons
Use Shavarath Signet Stone + Ebberon Energy Cell + "Ore of Traval" so Far +
Grouped by Taper Type -
+5 Green Steel Morningstar..... = Ore of Traval + Taper (Yellow).. + Wonderous Balm
+5 Green Steel Shortsword..... = Ore of Traval + Taper (Yellow)..... + Wonderous Jewel
+5 Green Steel Great Crossbow = Ore of Traval + Taper (Yellow).. + Wonderous Oil
+5 Green Steel Longbow......... = Ore of Traval + Taper (Yellow).. + Wonderous Scarab
+5 Green Steel Greatsword..... = Ore of Traval + Taper (Red)..... + Wonderous Balm
+5 Green Steel Maul.............. = Ore of Traval + Taper (Red)..... + Wonderous Jewel
+5 Green Steel Warhammer..... = Ore of Traval + Taper (Red)..... + Wonderous Oil **
+5 Green Steel Longsword....... = Ore of Traval + Taper (Red)..... + Wonderous Scarab
+5 Green Steel Dagger........... = Ore of Traval + Taper (Blue)..... + Wonderous Balm
+5 Green Steel Scepter.......... = Ore of Traval + Taper (Blue)..... + Wonderous Jewel
+5 Green Steel Khopesh......... = Ore of Traval + Taper (Blue)..... + Wonderous Oil
+5 Green Steel Throw Hammer = Ore of Traval + Taper (Blue)..... + Wonderous Scarab
Proposed missing Equipment Combinations ?
= Ore of Traval + Taper (Blue/Yellow/Red)..... + Fillaments of toil ?
= Ore of Traval + Fillaments of Toil.............. + Wonderous items?
Green Steel Equipment
Use Shavarath Signet Stone + Ebberon Energy Cell + "Filaments of Toil" so Far +
Grouped by Taper Type -
Green Steel Necklace............. = Filaments of Toil + Taper (Violet) + Wonderous Balm
Green Steel Helm................... = Filaments of Toil + Taper (Violet) + Wonderous Jewel
Green Steel Googles.............. = Filaments of Toil + Taper (Violet) + Wonderous Oil
Green Steel Bracers............... = Filaments of Toil + Taper (Violet) + Wonderous Scarab
Green Steel Gloves................. = Filaments of Toil + Taper (Green) + Wonderous Balm
Green Steel Weave Boots........ = Filaments of Toil + Taper (Green) + Wonderous Jewel
Green Steel Cloak................... = Filaments of Toil + Taper (Green) + Wonderous Oil
Green Steel Belt.................... = Filaments of Toil + Taper (Green) + Wonderous Scarab
Proposed missing Equipment Combinations ?
= Filaments of Toil + Taper (Green/violet)..... + Ore of Traval ?
= Filaments of Toil + Ore of Traval + Wonderous items?
Last edited by Cambo; 02-03-2008 at 10:00 PM.
SO we have 20 possible green steel items thus far. missing a bunch of weapons
all Axes are missing (the poor Dwarves are livid)
Scimitars
Rapiers
Picks
Light Hammers
Maces
Quarterstaves
x-boxs (except the great)
no trinkets either
no armor or robes
fortuantely for me all my characters use the weapons that are there
Aesop
Rule 1: Don't sweat the small stuff
Rule 2: Its all small stuff
Rule 3: People are stupid. You, me everyone... expect it
more rules to come in a different sig
from first altar of raid
arrow + bone + sulfur + shrapnel = air focus
arrow + bone + sulfur + scale = positive energy focus
arrow + bone + chain + scale = water focus
scale + arrow + sulfur + chain = diluted ethereal essence
Green Steel Item Upgrades
You can create Shards of Power with Different properties - Shard Formulation
You can upgrade items with Shards of Power - Shavarath Transformation
Altar of Invasion
Shard Formulation - Affinity to Air: (reported by Laurenthis)
Materials: Inferior Focus of Air, Diluted Material Essence, Cloudy Gem of Escalation, Shavarath Low Energy Cell
Benefit: Creates Shard of Power with Affinity to Air +6 Dex on item
Shard Formulation - Affinity to Fire: (reported by Laurenthis)
Materials: Inferior Focus of fire, Diluted Material Essence, Cloudy Gem of Domination, Shavarath Low Energy Cell
Benefit: Creates Shard of Power with Affinity to Fire +6% Fire Critical with
Shard Formulation - Negative Energy: (reported by Kire)
Materials: Shavarath Low Energy Cell, Diluted Material Essence, Cloudy Gem of Opposition, Inferior Focus of Negative Energy
Benefit: Creates Shard of Power with Negative Energy
Kire: "(Standard): Altar of Invasion success with Shavarath Shard Formulation! Consumed: Shavarath Low Energy Cell, Diluted Material Essence, Cloudy Gem of Opposition, Inferior Focus of Negative Energy. Created: Shard of Power. Shard of Power becomes Shard of Power."
Shavarath Transformation - Negative Energy:
Materials: Shard of Power, Shavarath Low Energy Cell. Created: +5 Green Steel Longbow
Benefit: +5 Green Steel Longbow becomes +5 Lieutenant Green Steel Longbow. Has negative energy absorption 15% and Negative energy affinity.
Kire:"(Standard): Altar of Invasion success with Shavarath Transformation! Consumed: Shard of Power, Shavarath Low Energy Cell. Created: +5 Green Steel Longbow. +5 Green Steel Longbow becomes +5 Lieutenant Green Steel Longbow"
Shavarath Transformation - Positive Energy:
Materials: Shard of power, Shavarath Low Energy Cell, 1 Green Steel Bow
Altar of Subjugation
Shavarath Transformation - Aspect of LightningDevice Requirement: Altar of Subjugation
Materials: Shard of Great power, Shavarath Medium Energy cell, 1 Green Steel Weapon Blank
Benefit: Gives the item the following Properties, Shocking Burst, Aspect of Lightning (Chain Lightning x 2 caster lvl16)
Altar of Invasion - Recipes: (Significant Information Provided by Laurenthis)
Ingredients Used: Diluted Ethereal Essence, Small Devil Scales, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Small Gnawed Bone, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Sulfurous Stones, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Shavarath Low Energy Cell, Depleted Shavarath Low Energy Cell
Depleted Low Energy Cell can be powered with ...
All include recipes include: Shavarath Low Energy Cell +
Inferior Focus of Fire: Scale, Bones, Shrapnel, Arrowhead
Inferior Focus of Air: Arrowhead, Shrapnel, Stone, Bone
Inferior Focus of Positive Energy: Bone, Stone, Arrowhead, Scales
Inferior Focus of Water: Chain, Bone, Arrow, Stone
Inferior Focus of Negative Energy: Chain, Arrow, Shrapnel, Stone
Diluted Material Essence: Shrapnel, Arrowhead, Stone, Scales
Diluted Ethereal Essence: Chain, Arrow, Scale, Stone
Cloudy Gem of Opposition: Chain, Bone, Scale, Stone
Cloudy Gem of Domination: Chain, Shrapnel, Scales, Bone
Cloudy Gem of Escalation: Chain, Shrapnel, Scales, Stone
Inferior Focus of Earth: Shrapnel, Arrowhead, Chain, Bone
Shavarath Signet Stone: Shavarath Stones Might, Battle, Strategy, Foresight (Rainbow Quest), and Victory (All of which are BOUND)
Altar of Subjugation - Recipes: (Significant Information Provided by Laurenthis)
Ingredients Used: Medium Devil Scales, Medium Gnawed Bones, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Glowing Arrowheads, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Splintered Horn, Shard of Great Power, Shavarath Medium Energy Cell, Depleted Shavarath Medium Energy Cell **Medium Splintered Horn Will not fit into Alter of Subjugation for some reason**
Depleted Medium Energy Cell can be powered with ...
All include recipes include: Shavarath Medium Energy Cell +
Gem of Escalation: M.Chain, M.Scales, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone
???: M.Shrapnel, M.Arrowhead, M.Stone, M.Scales
???: M.Scale, M.Bones, M.Shrapnel, M.Arrowhead
???: M.Arrowhead, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone, M.Bone
???: M.Bone, M.Stone, M.Arrowhead, M.Scales
???: M.Chain, M.Bone, M.Arrow, M.Stone
???: M.Chain, M.Arrow, M.Shrapnel, M.Stone
???: M.Chain, M.Arrow, M.Shrapnel, M.Arrow
???: M.Chain, M.Bone, M.Scale, M.Stone
???: M.Chain, M.Shrapnel, M.Scales, M.Bone
Altar of Devastation - Recipes: (Significant Information Provided by Laurenthis)
Ingredients Used: Large Devil Scales, Large Gnawed Bones, Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Glowing Arrowheads, Large Length of Infernal Chain,
Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Splintered Horn, Shard of Supreme Power, Shavarath High Energy Cell, Depleted Shavarath High Energy Cell
Depleted High Energy Cell can be powered with ...
All include recipes include: Shavarath High Energy Cell +
???: L.Chain, M.Scales, L.Shrapnel, L.Stone
???: L.Shrapnel, L.Arrowhead, L.Stone, L.Scales
???: L.Scale, L.Bones, L.Shrapnel, L.Arrowhead
???: L.Arrowhead, L.Shrapnel, L.Stone, L.Bone
???: L.Bone, L.Stone, L.Arrowhead, L.Scales
???: L.Chain, L.Bone, L.Arrow, L.Stone
???: L.Chain, L.Arrow, L.Shrapnel, L.Stone
???: L.Chain, L.Arrow, L.Shrapnel, L.Arrow
???: L.Chain, L.Bone, L.Scale, L.Stone
???: L.Chain, L.Shrapnel, L.Scales, L.Bone
Does anybody know if there's a holy burst?
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