post patch abbot down in japanese server

[maddmatt70]

Whether or not hanging off the edge is an exploit or not is academic.

Fact is, if that is the intended solution to the puzzle, the abbot raid is even more pooly designed than any of us could of accused...

and in this room, the object is to do absolutely nothing! You need to hang off the edge and go grab a smoke.

Brilliant! (Why do I picture the monty python Guiness beer guys coming up with this?)

Sure it is academic because nobody can beat it regardless of hanging off the edge of a platform..

[yk49]

I don't read japanese so I don't know if they mention this in their post, but I am curious about how many times the japanese guild failed between their first victory and their second victory. They may be only able to complete the raid a small % of the time right now - this after 150 attempts before they could complete it the first time. This is further evidence of this raid's failings..

http://premiere.ddoblog.jp/article/29732.html
after 3 days timer they entered the quest several times for purpose of practicing, then beated it again for first serious try of the night...
completion time was 19 min, which was 5 min faster than 1st success. they havent allowed any pugs in group, went 12 man static group all the way (for almost a month, from when they started to learn it).
so it is obvious they now can complete it constantly... i see their tactics/knowledge being widely shared among japanese players but no other group has succeeded in that raid yet.

[Mhykke]

BZZZZZZZT



Chill touch was intended to cause strength damage.

So then... it was doing exactly what was intended when it dropped Queen Lailat to 0 str and allowed her to be autocritted?

Sorry, they're exactly the same things. Things working as intended, just not in the context of the raid in question. Hanging onto a ledge is working exactly as intended. They just didn't intend on you using it there.

Seems to me your example is more like mine w/ the titan. At the time, chill touching could've been seen the same way (I'll address the difference in a second), and it may have been reasonable to assume that it would've stayed the same (still have to fight/engage her, still have to get close to chill touch her, still using spells to their intended effects on her.)

Now, it's slightly different in that red names can't be wounded/punctured/weakened in that way, so that may have been a clue that it would've been changed. W/ the titan, red names can't be tripped, but one may have be logical in assuming that the devs were treating the trip from the melee action differently than the trip from cometfall. Either way, you still have to engage in the fight.

And I'm sorry, hanging off the ledge bypasses that entire puzzle, they're not the same thing. If we are to use your DQ example and be more accurate in the analogy, let's say that in the DQ raid when it came out, you could just hang off the edge of her platform, and after 3 minutes time, she jumps off into the lava and dies. If one were using this tactic and assumed you could bypass the fight altogether (like people are assuming it's intended to bypass the asteroids altogether), and thought it would never be changed........well, let's just say those folks are in for a rude awakening.

And like I said, I'll bet anyone any amount of plat/items this hanging off the edge is changed. The only question is when will it be changed.

[Nevthial]

And like I said, I'll bet anyone any amount of plat/items this hanging off the edge is changed. The only question is when will it be changed.

This thread has been open for six days. If it were an exploit, it should have been closed by now it would seem.

[Auran82]

One thing I can tell from looking at the images of the raid loot they pulled on the second successful run is (just looking though the japanese in the pictures for numbers and such) of the 4 items that have dropped, Purging the Pantheon, Circle of Hatred, Enduring Conviction and Shroud of the Abbot, not one of them has changed in the slightest, one of the things in the notes when they were changing the abbot the second time (removing touch of dolourrf on normal for example) was that 'many' of the raid items were receiving an upgrade, so far that is 0 from 4.

[Mhykke]

This thread has been open for six days. If it were an exploit, it should have been closed by now it would seem.

Again, I'm not calling it an exploit. I'm just saying don't get too used to it, and don't ignore practicing that puzzle thinking that hanging off the edge is here to stay.

[Renegade66]

This thread has been open for six days. If it were an exploit, it should have been closed by now it would seem.

So, how much are you wagering? I'll cover up to a million plat.

[Dimz]

If it was such an exploit, then why didnt they totally ROUND the edges.. As of right now there is many spots to hang off of on that platform. I have tested myself. We are also beating Asteroids and Ice consistantly in each run. Goggles is still very very very tough!

Valk

[Nevthial]

So, how much are you wagering? I'll cover up to a million plat.

I was thinking along the lines of 10,000 Qautloos for the newcomer. ( Seriously though, I wouldn't bet on something not being changed. We've all seen some things changed in this game that we came to rely on. They might put grease on the edges next. LOL )

[Fallout]

>we've been tryin this quest about 150 times (7 times a day in average it is).

Thats some serious dedication. Well I hope more people can beat it. Japanese are pretty hard core. This raid is not for casual players, or even pug groups. No question that unless the devs want more people to try this raid, they've fix it.

I know on Khyber some groups are trying it regularly, but if only a small group is the only ones who are trying it, then the raid is a failure because most people on the server don't give a **** about it in its current state.

[Shade]

http://premiere.ddoblog.jp/article/29732.html
after 3 days timer they entered the quest several times for purpose of practicing, then beated it again for first serious try of the night...
completion time was 19 min, which was 5 min faster than 1st success. they havent allowed any pugs in group, went 12 man static group all the way (for almost a month, from when they started to learn it).
so it is obvious they now can complete it constantly... i see their tactics/knowledge being widely shared among japanese players but no other group has succeeded in that raid yet.

Cool to see they got more loots.

Can anyone translate the stats on the new loots they have posted on that page? Curious to see whats updated, if anything.
Looks like they got the Sword, Ring and the Belt from the pictures, but can't tell the stats.

[Auran82]

I went through the screenshots of the new pulls and while I can't translate them exactly, you can tell by the numbers in the japanese text around about what they do and from what I can tell, the 3 things they pulled are exactly the same as the old versions, not even the durabilities have changed.

[rpasell]

I'm not sure if anyone else has replied about this as I am only on page 3 ATM. I've seen a few request for translation. Just go to translate.google.com and get the translated pages.

[Quazi]

Stage6 is no longer a working site, can't view the Abbot Asteroid Puzzle anymore. What was the song that was playing hte back ground of the video???? It's wracking me brain!!!!! Anyone know?