Probable concentration bug, with screenshot. Explanations?

[Stanley_Nicholas]

Check out the last two lines in the combat log. I got hit for 25 points of damage, 10 of which was stopped by stoneskin. I happened to be casting a healing spell at the time, so I made a concentration check. I rolled a 3, and had a bonus of +26.
3 + 26 = 29
29 > 15
29 > 25

Why did I fail the concentration check?

[MysticTheurge]

Check out the last two lines in the combat log. I got hit for 25 points of damage, 10 of which was stopped by stoneskin. I happened to be casting a healing spell at the time, so I made a concentration check. I rolled a 3, and had a bonus of +26.
3 + 26 = 29
29 > 15
29 > 25

Why did I fail the concentration check?

The DC is 10 + damage + level of spell being cast.

Were you casting a 5th or higher level spell?

[Stanley_Nicholas]

Oh. Possibly, I'm not sure. But that would explain it.

It was probably a mass cure spell.

[MysticTheurge]

Oh. Possibly, I'm not sure. But that would explain it.

Yeah, I totally did this once (thread on the board about concentration being bugged) when I failed a BB cast that was within the 6 points. It's an easy little twist to miss.

[Kargon]

So are it correct that it not accountaming for DR before determinaming the DC of concentratimion, or should stonemaskin have removed 10 from the DC?

[MysticTheurge]

So are it correct that it not accountaming for DR before determinaming the DC of concentratimion, or should stonemaskin have removed 10 from the DC?

The DC should be based on damage actually taken, so Stoneskin should have removed 10 from the DC.

[Mad_Bombardier]

The DC should be based on damage actually taken, so Stoneskin should have removed 10 from the DC.

Ingame, the Concentration check DC is most definitely based on damage dealt, not damage taken/received after DR. I always assumed that was something from PnP. If not, we need to bug report it.

[MysticTheurge]

Ingame, the Concentration check DC is most definitely based on damage dealt, not damage taken/received after DR. I always assumed that was something from PnP. If not, we need to bug report it.

"Damage dealt" should be after it's reduced by DR and stuff. I mean I know what you're saying, but you don't "deal" damage if it's blocked by something else. So when the SRD says the DC is "10 + damage dealt" it seems pretty clear to me that it's not "Damage that the attacker rolls" but rather "Damage that the target takes."

If it doesn't work that way in DDO you should bug it.

[Ilundel]

Still doesn't prove anything, if the OP was casting a level 5 spell, the DC of concentration after removing stone skin would have been 10 (base DC) + 15 (damage taken) + 5 (spell level being casted) = 30 which is greater then 29, so he would have failed. Without knowing the spell level you were casting, we can't tell if indeed it took the damage before, or after it took the DR reduction.

[Valdieron]

Still doesn't prove anything, if the OP was casting a level 5 spell, the DC of concentration after removing stone skin would have been 10 (base DC) + 15 (damage taken) + 5 (spell level being casted) = 30 which is greater then 29, so he would have failed. Without knowing the spell level you were casting, we can't tell if indeed it took the damage before, or after it took the DR reduction.

True. However, assuming that he took the screenshot directly after this occurred, and looking at the HP of the other players, only the Sorc is down in HP, so maybe he was just trying to cast a single healing spell.... or maybe he panicked and hit the mass heal just in case

[Hvymetal]

Or greater command, or cometfall or destruction, problem is, it's all guesses