Questing for Knowledge

[Kerr]

I started playing my Wizard a little bit and as a Wizard, if you're of a certain level, it's expected that you'd know every spell that is in game for up to that level. That's kinda boring actually.

I had a lot of problems with it, but one of the cool things I found about Everquest was the caster research necessary. You started off with a basic set of spells, but as you leveled up, some you had to research by finding certain components, or barter/trade for a scroll so you can learn it. I can't tell you how excited I was when my Iksar Necromancer was able to finally research a new lifetap spell and scribe it into his spellbook. Right now, magic is so available in Xendrik that there's no need for any of this. That's boring to me! I'd like to delve into the ruins of the Giants and look for lost secrets of magic that I can then add to my collection. Arcane casters should come with some level of awe that accompanies the shock that the wizard you have in your party has a rare or hard to find spell.

How about it?

[cdbd3rd]

I started playing my Wizard a little bit and as a Wizard, if you're of a certain level, it's expected that you'd know every spell that is in game for up to that level. That's kinda boring actually.

I had a lot of problems with it, but one of the cool things I found about Everquest was the caster research necessary. You started off with a basic set of spells, but as you leveled up, some you had to research by finding certain components, or barter/trade for a scroll so you can learn it. I can't tell you how excited I was when my Iksar Necromancer necromancer was able to finally research a new lifetap spell and scribe it into his spellbook. Right now, magic is so available in Xendrik that there's no need for any of this. That's boring to me! I'd like to delve into the ruins of the Giants and look for lost secrets of magic that I can then add to my collection. Arcane casters should come with some level of awe that accomponies the shock that the wizard you have in your party has a rare or hard to find spell.

How about it?

I concur with the concept, but much too late for DDO. That would be a major overhaul of the core system. Not saying there couldn't be a new spell of some sort made available after a specific quest to find info on it. That might work.

[MysticTheurge]

That would be a major overhaul of the core system.

Not really.

All you have to do is stop putting all the scrolls on vendors that are readily accessible.

[cdbd3rd]

Not really.

All you have to do is stop putting all the scrolls on vendors that are readily accessible.

Okay, yeah. For the finding of scrolls. I was referring to the researching for spells part of the OP.

[MysticTheurge]

Okay, yeah. For the finding of scrolls. I was referring to the researching for spells part of the OP.

Well, as long as you're not talking creating new spells from scratch, that's pretty easy too.

Just make it so certain things (lost writings, ancient spellbooks, hidden bookshelves, etc.) give scrolls of spells that you can't otherwise get.

[Kerr]

Okay, yeah. For the finding of scrolls. I was referring to the researching for spells part of the OP.

Well they are pseudo-implimenting crafting from what we've heard so far. They could make some of the scrolls for newer spells only drop in certain quests, and as crafting gets further implimented, make it possible to collect fragments of spellbooks to 'craft' I.e. research the new spell as an alternative to just finding it.

The big thing is also just not letting the spell be chosen during level up.

[Kerr]

I just realized the biggest unsatisfying thing about being a Wizard, and leveling up to a new spell level, is the time you spend at the scroll vendor, buying a copy of ever spell, scribing it, and being done with it. You don't see another new spell for two more levels. Maybe making some of them having to be researched or quested for will fill that void during those two levels.

[sultro]

this is a cool idea. i defiantly have not filled my casters books with every available spell. but if i thought it was going to be an issue to get a spell i might need, then i would be way more likely to do that quest, explore that area, whatever to get the spell.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I don't twink my chars until they hit L9 or 10. Just levelled a Wiz to that point and you can't believe how mad ppl get when you are "the right level" for a "standard" spell and you don't have it yet because you can't afford the scrolls & inscription materials and/or you haven't found a scroll yet.

[Kerr]

Twink an arcane caster? Why? I've never had any problem earning cash on him to save up for new scrolls and scribing materials. They really seem to be less dependant to me on equipment than any other class. The only costs are components, and the biggest cost I've ever seeen is just the diamond dust for stoneskin.

[Hendrik]

Something I wish would have been done from the very start for Wizards is ONLY spells of Lvl1-3 can be bought, all the rest MUST be found from Questing.

[Staedtler]

From what's been available on Risia, it appears that there's no level 8 scroll vendor for arcane or divine spells.