Max Sorcerer SP: Post-Mod 5

[Aspenor]

My sorceror is not maxxed on SP, but could have up to 2003 currently with his 32 charisma, and my best guess is that could be boosted to about 2030 with 34 charisma. I can't remember how many SP an extra 2 charisma will supply at level 14.

I do not have a ring of spell storing, thus that is not involved in the calculation.

Another question I'm posing: how many SP do the power drain gloves from the Abbot supply?

I know that the maximum SP attainable is by a 13sorc/1bard.

So, what is it? Both with, and without the ring of spell storing and power drain gloves?

[Pfamily]

Found a chart on Wiki showing an additional 23 SP are gained at lvl 14 when going from Cha 32 to Cha 34. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the answers.

[Mad_Bombardier]

My sorceror is not maxxed on SP, but could have up to 2003 currently with his 32 charisma, and my best guess is that could be boosted to about 2030 with 34 charisma. I can't remember how many SP an extra 2 charisma will supply at level 14.

I do not have a ring of spell storing, thus that is not involved in the calculation.

Another question I'm posing: how many SP do the power drain gloves from the Abbot supply?

I know that the maximum SP attainable is by a 13sorc/1bard.

So, what is it? Both with, and without the ring of spell storing and power drain gloves?

Going from 32 to 34 CHA adds +23 SP @ L14. binnsr just did the calculation in GD.

14 Sorc = 2031 max
13Sorc/1Bard = 2065 max*
(*Not that you really want to multiclass a Sorc who already have a ridiculous amout of SP). It will still be the leader in Mod6 L16 cap. But, at some point in the future, that combo will no longer be the SP max. So you'll lose out on spells and SP in the long run.)

Spell Storing ring is +75 SP per rest. No idea on the Power Drain. The Vile Blasphemy gloves listing on the Definitive Items list do not have a spell mouseover description for Power Drain.

[Ridag]

Asp, with 34 char, Skiver and mental toughness/imp mental toughness my sorc has 2031 sp. Add in 75 from my ring of spell storing and you have a grand total of 2106.

EDIT: Looks like MB beat me to the punch.

[Borror0]

I can't remember how many SP an extra 2 charisma will supply at level 14.

It'd give 23 more Spell Points to your pure calls sorcerer, as this page shows.

I'd bookmark it or something, always useful one... or just use the search option for Spell Points, hehe.

Another question I'm posing: how many SP do the power drain gloves from the Abbot supply?

No idea here.

So, what is it?

880 Sorcerer
50 Bard
80 Magical Training
120 Bard's Charisma Bonus
264 Sorcerer's Charisma Bonus
371 Skiver
150 MTs
150 Enhancements
2065 SPs

So, 2140 with Spell Storing.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Nvm, you already fixed it.

[Borror0]

Just a minor correction. 2065 is still the correct total.

Yeah, already edited. Saw it a few seconds after pressing edit.

[Aspenor]

Thanks guys. As you all know, I'd rather just post here and ask sometimes, especially when I have work to do. So, technically, with 36 charisma (the theoretical maximum attainable charisma) a sorcerer would be looking at havine 2031 + 23 = 2054 spell points.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Thanks guys. As you all know, I'd rather just post here and ask sometimes, especially when I have work to do. So, technically, with 36 charisma (the theoretical maximum attainable charisma) a sorcerer would be looking at havine 2031 + 23 = 2054 spell points.

Yes, with the Litany of the Dead from the Abbot raid, Drow can achieve 36 CHA (20+3 lvls+3 enhance+3 tome+1Litany+6 item = 36) and would have 2054. I guess I need to go update the other SP threads.

[MrWizard]

I can't remember how many SP an extra 2 charisma will supply at level 14.

(caster level + 9) * (casting ability modifier) = spell points
(basically 23 spell points per charisma mod at 14)

14th level caster with 30 charisma (+10)
230 spell points 23x10
14th level caster with 30 charisma (+11)
253 spell points 23x11

14th level caster with 34 charisma (+12)
276 spell points 23x12

a whopping 23 points per mod at 14th level.

at 5th level the amount is a whopping 14 spell points per modifier.


9+level is your per modifier spell point amount.

[Borror0]

Yes, with the Litany of the Dead from the Abbot raid, Drow can achieve 36 CHA (20+3 lvls+3 enhance+3 tome+1Litany+6 item = 36) and would have 2054. I guess I need to go update the other SP threads.

Do we really want to consider Abbot loot as real loot?

[Yaga_Nub]

Don't forget that level 16 is right around the corner so we'll get a +1 to a stat.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Do we really want to consider Abbot loot as real loot?

I wasn't including it at first. But Asp brought it up and at least one person has the Litany (else we wouldn't have a screenshot), so we might as well include it in the calculation for max SP.

Don't forget that level 16 is right around the corner so we'll get a +1 to a stat.

Right. All the numbers will be changing and anyone with a +3 tome can hit 36 CHA by L16 in Mod6.

[Shade]

I've got both the power drain gloves and the lotd, tho not on the same char..

They give 2D6 SP every 6 seconds, for 10 tics (66 second duration, first one after 6 seconds)
They have 3 charges, so a maximum of 360SP can be regenerated.

So a 36 CHA Drow sorc can get:
975 Sorcerer
80 Magical Training
299 Sorcerer's Charisma Bonus
400 Archmagi
150 Improved Mental Toughness
150 Enhancements, Dragonblooded IV
= 2054 SP
Regenable:
75 Spell Storing Ring
360 Power Drain Gloves
= 2489 SP
Or you could go further a say they got the powerstore staff
Effectively +10% SP:
2737 SP worth of spells
Then perhaps even a bit more if they uses there lotd the (gives -50% SP cost for 6 seconds)
Maybe about 3000 SP worth of spells.

Hehe either way, we got a hell of lot.

[Aspenor]

I've got both the power drain gloves and the lotd, tho not on the same char..

They give 2D6 SP every 6 seconds, for 10 tics (66 second duration, first one after 6 seconds)
They have 3 charges, so a maximum of 360SP can be regenerated.

So a 36 CHA Drow sorc can get:
975 Sorcerer
80 Magical Training
299 Sorcerer's Charisma Bonus
400 Archmagi
150 Improved Mental Toughness
150 Enhancements, Dragonblooded IV
= 2054 SP
Regenable:
75 Spell Storing Ring
360 Power Drain Gloves
= 2489 SP
Or you could go further a say they got the powerstore staff
Effectively +10% SP:
2737 SP worth of spells
Then perhaps even a bit more if they uses there lotd the (gives -50% SP cost for 6 seconds)
Maybe about 3000 SP worth of spells.

Hehe either way, we got a hell of lot.

Thanx for the info, Shade.

So maybe the sorc with the reported 2400 SP has the power drain gloves....that is the only explanation I can come up with.

If I'm not mistaken though, unless you're throwing nothing but necromancy or enchantments, carrying the staff is more for looks than practicality, especially for a nuker. I can't imagine using the staff while throwing fireballs, potency and lore is too useful.

[Shade]

hehe then you just need even more abbot raid loot: Noxious ember (Sup comb 7 necklace)
Top it off with a blue dragon robe for greater lore and your set for nuking, finger of death killing and enchantments.

Abbot really is the casters dream raid.. Especially considering some of these items may even be boosted.. Just need the raid to be beatable again.

[Aspenor]

hehe then you just need even more abbot raid loot: Noxious ember (Sup comb 7 necklace)
Top it off with a blue dragon robe for greater lore and your set for nuking, finger of death killing and enchantments.

Abbot really is the casters dream raid.. Especially considering some of these items may even be boosted.. Just need the raid to be beatable again.

Oh I concur that the abbot is a caster's dream raid...

I am EXTREMELY upset that when I rerolled my sorc when I messed him up originally that I forgot to change my alignment from LG to neutral.

EXTREMELY upset.