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    Default Can a barb with a 8 wis and one lvl of Rgr use healing wands?

    My 6 Barb needs be more self healing, but I have an 8 wis. If I take a lvl of Rgr, will I be able to use the Cure Serious Wands, Lesser Restore, Cure Disease, etc?

    I don't want to waste the Lvl and not be able to heal myself.

    Help me understand how this works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redraider View Post
    My 6 Barb needs be more self healing, but I have an 8 wis. If I take a lvl of Rgr, will I be able to use the Cure Serious Wands, Lesser Restore, Cure Disease, etc?

    I don't want to waste the Lvl and not be able to heal myself.

    Help me understand how this works.
    see same response in the fighter thread... srtill not sure that rangers have Lesser Restore on their lists though
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    Im not sure rangers get neutralize poison nor cure disease either....

    As to taking a level for wand use...well remember that wands have about twice the cooldown of potions, and all they really do is save you about 60% from the cost of potions (I assume weight isnt a factor for a bard or fighter). I once took a level of paladin on a 2weapon fighter for wand use, and ever since they didnt give items the effect of sup devotion items it just didnt seem worth the loss of a class level just to save a little money. Then again, most of my characters are not lacking in plat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    Im not sure rangers get neutralize poison nor cure disease either....

    As to taking a level for wand use...well remember that wands have about twice the cooldown of potions, and all they really do is save you about 60% from the cost of potions (I assume weight isnt a factor for a bard or fighter). I once took a level of paladin on a 2weapon fighter for wand use, and ever since they didnt give items the effect of sup devotion items it just didnt seem worth the loss of a class level just to save a little money. Then again, most of my characters are not lacking in plat.
    well you can't use a potion to pick up the cleric... that's another good reason. I use potions for emergencies and wands for cleaning up after a fight and picking up downed peoples

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    Quote Originally Posted by redraider View Post
    My 6 Barb needs be more self healing, but I have an 8 wis. If I take a lvl of Rgr, will I be able to use the Cure Serious Wands, Lesser Restore, Cure Disease, etc?

    I don't want to waste the Lvl and not be able to heal myself.

    Help me understand how this works.
    Lesser restore is not on the ranger spell list. Remove disease and neutralize poison are.

    You'll miss out on critical rage II at level 14 if you take a level in a healing class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspenor View Post
    Lesser restore is not on the ranger spell list. Remove disease and neutralize poison are.

    You'll miss out on critical rage II at level 14 if you take a level in a healing class.
    but with the level cap increase ... relatively soon (tm)

    they can take it at 15
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    Yea cure serious wounds, cure disease.. No lesser restore.

    If you want lesser restore you can get a paladin level.

    And yea, stats don't effect wand usage, you can use them pretty much no matter what. Only thing that will prevent there use is rage or madstone rage.

    Other option is a bard level, will get you cure wands all the way up to critical (better then ranger or palli), ands ome other more arcane type wands that can be useful in soem cases.. As well as 30 second facinate, a +1 to hit/dmg song and spell, and umd as a class skill.

    Don't really recommend any of those choices tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Yea cure serious wounds, cure disease.. No lesser restore.

    If you want lesser restore you can get a paladin level.

    And yea, stats don't effect wand usage, you can use them pretty much no matter what. Only thing that will prevent there use is rage or madstone rage.

    Other option is a bard level, will get you cure wands all the way up to critical (better then ranger or palli), ands ome other more arcane type wands that can be useful in soem cases.. As well as 30 second facinate, a +1 to hit/dmg song and spell, and umd as a class skill.

    Don't really recommend any of those choices tho.

    a barbarian with a pali lev lol that would be quite a combo... however since you currently need a 250 umd(joke cant be bypassed) to bypass the lawful good paladin alignment requirement, think that leaves that option out.
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    heh yea always forget the alignment thing.

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    The biggest deterrent to splashing another class for wand use on a barbarian should be obvious. You cannot use the wand while you are raging! And all good barbarians will be raging a majority of the time. Trust me use potions they are definitely more convenient.
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    Just in case you would still hesitate, yes you can use wands (except when raging), and no it's not a good idea.

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    Thank you all, I would say that's a resounding yes to my question of can I use wands but a resounding NO to should I do it.

    I wish I knew what they had in mind for Ftr's and Barbs going forward. I do a lot of soloing, so potions get expensive, but...

    Well, again, thanks for the answers, now I just gotta figure out what to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redraider View Post
    I wish I knew what they had in mind for Ftr's and Barbs going forward. I do a lot of soloing, so potions get expensive, but...
    ... you're still at low level. You would regret it later, when money comes so easily that potions are not a problem anymore (and you won't be able to solo anymore anyways, so you won't spend as many )

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    Quote Originally Posted by redraider View Post
    Thank you all, I would say that's a resounding yes to my question of can I use wands but a resounding NO to should I do it.

    I wish I knew what they had in mind for Ftr's and Barbs going forward. I do a lot of soloing, so potions get expensive, but...

    Well, again, thanks for the answers, now I just gotta figure out what to do.

    I have a capped pure barb, a lev 12 mc barb and a couple of others. My pure barb is no better than the others. I solo a lot also and would not have my barbs any other way. 42K gold for heal pots vs 15 for a wand is a no brainer if you don't usually run with clerics/bards. You can alternate healing wands and pots in an emergency and the cool down is meaningless. You can't use wands if you are raged but you CAN remove your rage if you need to. If you are taking a level of Ranger then the only thing you would miss (Feat wise. Can't say about enhancements.) is the lev 20 rage which gives +2 str, +2 con and +1 to (I think) will. I can live with that. You would want to reach level 17 (And who knows when that will come? With the release of mod6 you would not be missing a thing.) for tireless rage. That leaves two more levels to burn with which you can take fighter. That would open up Ftr strength 1 for a +1 to strength as well as Ftr haste boost/attack. It is your game. Play it the way you want. At least now you have a few more ideas.

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    Take a level of Paladin instead, you should be fine for all of those.. In Addition I think you get one charge of Lay on Hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizzini View Post
    Take a level of Paladin instead, you should be fine for all of those.. In Addition I think you get one charge of Lay on Hands.
    See Shades "DOH!" post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizzini View Post
    Take a level of Paladin instead, you should be fine for all of those.. In Addition I think you get one charge of Lay on Hands.
    alignment restriction won't allow it - brb has to be chaotic, paladin has to be lg...
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    My advice skip the multiclassing and horde up on all the candy canes you can find!
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    Though I realize they are pricey and hard to find, Lesser Restoration comes on clickies and such items can be found in Harbor quests.

    If you're desperate, scan the auction house for them as well.
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    Splashing another class into a barbarian build is generally accepted as a bad idea. Now splashing barbarian into another class build, that's a different story...
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