L15+

[Mad_Bombardier]

What are you guys going to do with your Fighters at levels 15+? Do you really need 3 more fighter feats at L16, 18, 20? Or could you benefit more from multiclass feats/enhancements?

I suppose it really depends on what new high level feats/enhancements they introduce. But, I'm having trouble seeing many reasons to stay pure Fighter. Personally, Barb and Bard are out because I'm LG. But, Ranger or Paladin are viable options.

[Tanka]

Honos will be taking STHF and Great Cleave (assuming I get him to L16. Probably won't).

Tanka will be taking Force of Personality and Improved THF.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Honos will be taking STHF and Great Cleave (assuming I get him to L16. Probably won't).

Tanka will be taking Force of Personality and Improved THF.

Yeah, that's the boat I'm in. Etana is an intimitank. I'll be taking ImpTrip regardless at L15. But, after that I'd just be taking filler feats like THF for when she uses 2H weapons. Paladin to L3 (for immunities and Bulwark of Good I) is a viable option for a little more solo AC. But, she's not meant to be a solo character and usually runs with a high level Paladin for better aura. Her CHA isn't enough to make Divine Grace or FoP worthwhile. So, I'm pretty much stuck.

Oh well, we'll have to see if there are other high level enhancements on Risia.


P.S. I do have enough DEX to turn her into a TWF, and could probably do it by jockeying her early feats with half a dozen dragonshards. But, I do enjoy her role as a high AC tank.

[Gratch]

I'm stopping at 14. The attack animations for the 5 swing attack at BAB 15 are very SLOW.

Or more on topic... using L15 for the Force of Personality (will save based on charisma) and L16 Fighter Feat for Improved Trip (for a while at least).

Mmmm... +7 more to will save.

[Oreg]

I have a 12/2 f/p right now also and not really sure where I want to go with him. I'm thinking 13/3 for this next mod and then 17/3 for final but who knows at this point. I can't see splashing anything else at this point.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Or more on topic... using L15 for the Force of Personality (will save based on charisma) and L16 Fighter Feat for Improved Trip (for a while at least).

Mmmm... +7 more to will save.

Your Fighter has 24 CHA? Wowzer!

[Oreg]

Mine has 24 or 26 I think but has pal levels. I will def be taking force.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Mine has 24 or 26 I think but has pal levels. I will def be taking force.

aahh, gotcha. Easy choice for you then. My STR, DEX, CON fighter is still stuck...

[binnsr]

My TN founding fighter will either be taking 6 more levels of fighter - he already dipped into the barbarian trough - and picking up cleave, great cleave and improved trip with his 3 fighter feats or taking 6 more levels of barbarian and converting from intimitank to raw dps. haven't quite decided yet..

My new Intimitank will be taking 6 more fighter levels because he's just got too many feats he wants to fit in there (currently 4ftr/3pal/1rog heading for 9f/3p/2r) including force of personality (will be using his lvl9 Improved DR feat to swap out to it) for an extra +4 to his will save.. +6 if he gets really lucky with tomes and items between now and then )

My HRC specialiast will be taking 6 more levels of fighter .. again, because i can't squeeze in all the feats I want in the 12 fighter levels she'll have once she hits 14

[Turial]

I'm stopping at 14. The attack animations for the 5 swing attack at BAB 15 are very SLOW.

Or more on topic... using L15 for the Force of Personality (will save based on charisma) and L16 Fighter Feat for Improved Trip (for a while at least).

Mmmm... +7 more to will save.

Hate to tell you this but even stopping at 14 and multiclassing you will eventually reach BAB 15.

[Gratch]

Your Fighter has 24 CHA? Wowzer!

3 paly levels like 24 charisma. 2 LoH's for ~100, 2 smites, +2 ac, +9 to all saves, disease immunity, fear immunity.

I can't think of 1.5 fighter feats that are worth that value if you can shove points into cha at the start and a few enhancement points.

[Cold_Stele]

I'm gonna be staying pure I guess, but I agree there's very little at the moment to keep me that way.

I'm hoping one day the Devs bring in some kind of Weapon Master PrC enhancement or something similar as they did with Tempest Ranger. There's all sorts of rumor and speculation about Tempest as you know, but my 2c says you'll have to be pure for the top tier of it.

Personally I'm playing the long game and hoping *something* comes along to give Ftrs some much needed love. Right now there's nothing they can do a Barb can't do better.

I'd think twice about level splashes, Turbine has a habit of nerfing these. I came within a hair of splashing 1 Pally and then 2 Rogue and am sincerely glad I didn't.

[Blazer]

Mine has 24 or 26 I think but has pal levels. I will def be taking force.

If your fighter/pally has a 24 or 26 CHA and is at least 2 levels of paladin (assuming Divine Grace here), do you really need Force of Personality? I mean, your Will save has to be near 20 already, right?

[Mad_Bombardier]

If your fighter/pally has a 24 or 26 CHA and is at least 2 levels of paladin (assuming Divine Grace here), do you really need Force of Personality? I mean, your Will save has to be near 20 already, right?

Yeah, but Fighters get a stupid amount of feats (and little to spend them on), so why not?

[Tanka]

If your fighter/pally has a 24 or 26 CHA and is at least 2 levels of paladin (assuming Divine Grace here), do you really need Force of Personality? I mean, your Will save has to be near 20 already, right?

My Evasion Fighter is at a 22 Cha. Will Save, with GH/Boots of the Innocent is 21. I'll still take FoP to boost that to a 26. It's good to keep it high for when I'm using the Spiked Boots and my GH goes down. That'd leave me at 17.

[Gratch]

Hate to tell you this but even stopping at 14 and multiclassing you will eventually reach BAB 15.

Heh... I meant stopping at 14 as in refusing to click the level-up button until they fix things.

If your fighter/pally has a 24 or 26 CHA and is at least 2 levels of paladin (assuming Divine Grace here), do you really need Force of Personality? I mean, your Will save has to be near 20 already, right?

Saves in the 20's are still too low for front line intimitanks or caster-hunting types. Remember that the enemy casters are only going up in spell level and int attribute and probably much faster than the fighter will save +1/3L bumps. Though I guess in mod6+ at least their spell level will cap for a short while at 9. Plus if you have reflex/fort in the 30's, why not bring the will save up there? I did find out recently that boosting to a 40ish reflex save helps one make saves in the Litany elite force trap if you're collecting soul stones. 30 wasn't working.