Fighter build challenge

[Hadrian]

ah so he did, my appologies. however still quite a bit of room to raise ac if that your focus. personally ill take dps over ac as it suits my plaing style most of the time. so im working on a barb ranger tempest build with fighter mixed in for the melee haste boost.

I was not aware of the tempest boost to AC. As for the shield clicky, I don't like to count it because of its short duration, but I suppose that does technically add 4 more maximum possible AC. If you make a build that can UMD higher level wands, then certainly it becomes much more viable.

Also, it would probably be wise to raise dex higher but the question about what his AC would be with or without CE was for a given set of stats.

[Oreg]

Thanks for all your help. I think I have settled on the following build. I will probably wait until mod 6 though in order to get the oversized feat earlier and to see the Tempest enhancements earlier. Anyway, final comments are appreciated.

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Level 14 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(8 Fighter \ 6 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 316
Spell Points: 25 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 11
Will: 4

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 14)           (Level 14)
Strength             16                 20                   22
Dexterity            16                 17                   19
Constitution         16                 17                   19
Intelligence         12                 13                   13
Wisdom               10                 11                   11
Charisma              6                  6                    6

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 14)          (Level 14)
Balance               5                 12.5                 16.5
Bluff                -2                 -2                   -2
Concentration         3                  4                    4
Diplomacy            -2                 -2                   -2
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                  3                    3
Heal                  0                  0                    0
Hide                  3                  4                    4
Intimidate           -2                 -2                   -2
Jump                  7                 20                   20
Listen                4                  9                    9
Move Silently         3                  4                    4
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  1                    1
Search                1                  1                    3
Spot                  4                  9                    9
Swim                  3                  6                    6
Tumble                5                  9                    9
Use Magic Device      0                  6.5                  6.5

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe
Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus (Dwarf)
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy

Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 3 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)

Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant

Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot

Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Spring Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency

Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons

Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons

Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)

Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)

Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness I
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness II
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness III
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness IV
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III

[Hadrian]

I had forgot to say before in the AC discussion:

Dwarves also get a racial feat that boosts armor class against giants. This is extremely useful considering most of the highest to-hit creatures in the game are giants. Especially in mod 4 where the AC requirements are so inflated. Dwarfness helps to offset this a little bit.

[maddmatt70]

You will not get sup two weapon fighting without a 19 base which is why you should start with a 17 dex or put a level up point into dex + a +2 dex tome which you can get for 1750 favor reward or find in the next mod. I have no idea why the other posters advocated for not having a 17 base. +3 tomes will still be very rare at least until the cap goes to 18 or 20 when you can find them in any random chest my guess is when the cap is at 20 which will be over a year from now....

The other thing that cracks me up is neither of the other two posters have played a two weapon fighting dwarf fighter whereas i have for almost 2 years lol...

[Oreg]

You will not get sup two weapon fighting without a 19 base which is why you should start with a 17 dex or put a level up point into dex + a +2 dex tome which you can get for 1750 favor reward or find in the next mod. I have no idea why the other posters advocated for not having a 17 base. +3 tomes will still be very rare at least until the cap goes to 18 or 20 when you can find them in any random chest my guess is when the cap is at 20 which will be over a year from now....

The other thing that cracks me up is neither of the other two posters have played a two weapon fighting dwarf fighter whereas i have for almost 2 years lol...

Has it been confirmed that you will need base dex and will not get this with the Tempest enhancement II?

[maddmatt70]

Has it been confirmed that you will need base dex and will not get this with the Tempest enhancement II?

Well no but I doubt a 6th level ranger will qualify for tempest II. The character will almost certainly have to have more ranger levels. It is possibly if you are a heavy raider and with more raids being added that you will have a decent chance of getting a +3 dex tome in a raid, but the raid loot is changing - it looks like you use raid loot in the new raid/raids to 'customize' gear now what that means regarding tomes and in general I am not really sure.

[Tanka]

Has it been confirmed that you will need base dex and will not get this with the Tempest enhancement II?

The Devs said they were thinking about maybe making Tempest 2 later on and maybe giving Rangers STWF then.

Personally, I wouldn't really count on it. It'd require more Ranger levels, possibly more than 10.

[Bekki]

You can dual wield Dwarvens but with a -4 penalty I believe (I do it on my Ranger/Fighter), however with the new Oversized two weapon enhancement coming in MOD6 you will only take a -2 penalty. I'm sure if I'm off on this someone will correct me.

this may have already been answered, but
here is the scoop in the Players handbook.

Any Character can use two weapons Albeit a substantial penalty.
As per PH Ver.3.5
TWO Weapon fighting.

initialy it is -6 to main hand -10 with off hand!
-4 main hand -8 off hand with a light weapon! Again

The Two Weapon Fighting Feat reduces this to:

-4 to main hand -4 Off hand for Normal weapons.

and

-2 to main hand -2 Off hand for Light weapons.

Now to get the Light weapon bonus
you ONLY need to have a light weapon in your off hand.

I do not know for sure if the altered it for DDO
but I know my Dwarf bekki will go two weapons
at time with his Dwarven Axes and TWF feat
and he takes a -4 to each.

Improved TWF will give you an extra attack.

I am not sure at this time what Greater TWF gives you.

[Lord_Seth]

See the Bladedancer Build! Although this build is elven I state a little bit about how to convert to Dwarf