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    Quote Originally Posted by Emon1 View Post
    I don't want cheat codes and I don't like the new death system. The excess equipment damage is rediculous as well as any steep penalties for death. Are there steep penalties in Pen and Paper? Death does not need to be a serious consequence in DDO. The new system will only make people unwilling to join pug groups for fear of serious consequence if the group is bad. DDO does not need a narrowing of the player community. The penalties proposed are simply to much. What next? Permanent death? That is the end result of 'toughening up' death. The current death system is reasonable although to perfect.
    Yes there are steep penalties in P&P. Not being able to release to a tavern, so hope you have friends that can recover you or rez you. Loosing con points-permanently upon being raised. Just two off the top of my head on a late night at work.
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    No.

    The Devs are gonna destroy alotta the game.

    Twinking.
    Trading - a huge social aspect of any MMO.
    Plat Farmers - "Oh look an unbound vorpal on the AH for 20mil! Lemme go buy some gold."

    Nice sarcasm in the "going to WoW where they have no item damage", they also have a huge problem
    with plat buying.

    Well, I say problem, but its not really...everyone does it.
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    Yes.

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    Yes

    Also i like cake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpent View Post
    "intermittent Poll Results in Post Below"

    Well someone had to do it so I will

    Are you for the Damage/Death penalty as currently implemented on Risia?

    Just say Yes or No

    Further discussion can be limited to the other threads i believe.

    Note: this is not for the Devs so much as for each other. We are a community and i feel that the community should understand what it thinks.
    not just no, but hell no, the current live game system is fine the way it is with 1 minor tweak needed, remove the xp regen and it will have some sting.
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    Haven't been on Risia yet (The files keep stopping halfway through. I'll get it eventually.), but from what I've heard about it, I'm gonna say yes. I don't mind binding my stuff, since I don't twink alts. The item damage doesn't bother me either, as it's just an item. I can always hunt on the AH or hope I get just as good a weapon in a quest I run.

    So, again, yes, I like the new system. Much better than the EXP "debt". (Even if you add a non-regen amount, it's still not that bad. Run some lower levels quests, and you're cleared.)

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    updated

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    I say a resounding... No

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    Yes
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    I'd have to say NO!

    You asked for no ellaboration, however I'll give it anyway. It is not so much a penalty on death but a way to take items out of the game... it accomplishes not fair penalty for death but affects... 1.) players sharing, 2.) player trust in each other and 3.) the item market. This will make items on the AH more costly as it limits those Items available for sale there... people who bound items and find an upgrade for it will not be able to pass it along to friends or place it on the AH, People will stop and think, before they put a Vorpal or a greater bane or +6 stat item on the AH... hmmm if my current one gets too much damage - this will replace it.

    It makes the people who hoard plat better then those who do not and limits those of us who are good and nice to each other who give away items or pass along things or help others get through that one quest they have not done on elite - even though we know they're not the greatest of players.

    It is a deterent to playing with others who are risky not to death.
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    No! Please keep the xp loss portion of the death penalty. I prefer a challenge to a cake walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpk View Post
    Very true any forum sampling is strongly of the player base skewed in favor of the people who post a helluva lot more than they play; typically they are very shortsighted and have very little game related insight to provide. You're right it makes a difference.
    I will have to agree here... the big "NO! I will cancel my account" responders are, seemingly in my view, being very very short sighted about this whole change. "My weapons are going to all be destroyed in 5 deaths!" is just silly.

    Waiting on people to recall to get repairs will be no more frustrating that waiting on people to recall out to get Spell Points - which you are already VERY accustomed to - the difference being??? What exactly??

    Another thing, try NOT dying... try Teamwork instead of zering ahead and pulling a mountain of aggro down on your unprepared party who are all standing there topping off from that last mega fight and trying to see if any of their weapons would make a better choice in this hard-arse quest.

    XP Loss on death SUCKS!! I prefer to not have to permanently take away two hours of questing progress for one silly death. Make it a little damage that can be repaired (and being a bit queasy that goes away fairly quickly) instead of a penalty of HOURS of progress lost.

    Oh... and... :

    YES! In Favor of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbaal9111 View Post
    1) economy issues with uber items never leaving the system and being used by more then one character... this will make auction house much better and the econ much much healthier in the game
    How? It will drive prices upwards... do you really think I'm going to post a duplicate greater bane item on the AH now? Will be a cold day in hades I post one thier or a +6 item there? There will be a lot fewer high quality items on the AH now.

    As for the guy who never wore anything out? Prior to mod 2 I went thru 3 retributions, a proof against poison item and a number of other things... I repair after every single quest - always have on one fighter my mith fp is about 3/4 durability then it's original spec. This has nothing to do with poor care ... just chance and how much you play. I've been here since the beginning and play at least 6 hours a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emili View Post
    I've been here since the beginning and play at least 6 hours a day.
    Can I have your job??
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    Everyone please keep your arguments to another thread. I know this is an important topic to all.

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    Final results are in.

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