Permanent Item Damage and Death Penalty changes

[Eladrin]

Major systems changes in Module Six: The Thirteenth Eclipse include alterations to the repair system and the effects caused by death. We’ve received overwhelming feedback related to these issues over the past two years which identify them as the systems most closely tied to negative play experiences, and we’d like to take this time to address these issues.

The changes are detailed below:

• Bound items will no longer have a chance of taking permanent damage when repaired.
• The chance for permanent damage to be inflicted on unbound items when repaired has been halved.
• Item repair costs have been reduced for all items by 25%.
• Repair costs for Dragonscale items have been dropped to 3 relics of the appropriate type.
• Items may be bound at a “Stone of Change”, which can be found in the Marketplace next to the Lordsmarch Bank or in The Twelve, at the base of their tower. Take your item and place it into the Stone of Change, and add (Minimum Level Requirement of the item ^ 2) Khyber Dragonshard Fragments into the device. (Khyber Dragonshard Fragments are commonly found in breakable objects.) An example of the process of binding an object is in my next post.
• Players no longer lose experience on death.
• At the moment of death, all non-stacking, equipped items that your character is wearing will take a percentage of item wear. Each item will take damage equal to (Character Level * ¾, round down, maximum 10)% of their original maximum durability, or:
  

  1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14+
  0%	1%	2%	3%	3%	4%	5%	6%	6%	7%	8%	9%	9%	10%

• As death is a traumatic experience, characters now acquire a debuff after being returned from the dead, based on the number of times the character has died since the last time they rested. The character will gain one temporary negative level and an additional -2 to saves vs. Fear effects per death since their last rest, but these are capped at ((level - 1) / 2, round down, maximum 5 temporary negative levels) so you cannot lose half your levels to temporary negative levels from death - a third level character can only be affected by one, while an eleventh or higher level character can collect all five. These penalties degrade at a rate of one stage per minute.
  
  1. First death since resting: (Level 3+)
     Touched by Dolurrh
     "Your recent deaths have left a mark on your soul. For the next minute you have a negative level and penalty to Will saves against Fear effects. These will degrade over time, but cannot otherwise be removed except by resting or effects that specifically remove the trauma of death."
     This has a one minute duration after which it is removed.
  2. Second death since resting: (Level 5+)
     Marked by Dolurrh
     "Your recent deaths have left a mark on your soul. For the next two minutes you have two negative levels and penalty to Will saves against Fear effects. These will degrade over time, but cannot otherwise be removed except by resting or effects that specifically remove the trauma of death."
     This has a one minute duration, after which it turns into Touched by Dolurrh, for a total debuff of 2 minutes.
  3. Third death since resting: (Level 7+)
     Scarred by Dolurrh
     "Your multiple recent deaths have left a mark on your soul. For the next three minutes you have three negative levels and penalty to Will saves against Fear effects. These will degrade over time, but cannot otherwise be removed except by resting or effects that specifically remove the trauma of death."
     This has a one minute duration, after which it turns into Marked by Dolurrh, for a total debuff of 3 minutes.
  4. Fourth death since resting: (Level 9+)
     Claimed by Dolurrh
     "Your repeated recent deaths have left a mark on your soul. For the next four minutes you have four negative levels and penalty to Will saves against Fear effects. These will degrade over time, but cannot otherwise be removed except by resting or effects that specifically remove the trauma of death."
     This has a one minute duration, after which it turns into Scarred by Dolurrh, for a total debuff of 4 minutes.
  5. Fifth or subsequent deaths since resting: (Level 11+)
     Owned by Dolurrh:
     "Your many recent deaths have left a mark on your soul. For the next five minutes you have five negative levels and penalty to Will saves against Fear effects. These will degrade over time, but cannot otherwise be removed except by resting or effects that specifically remove the trauma of death."
     This has a one minute duration, after which it turns into Claimed by Dolurrh, for a total debuff of 5 minutes.
• The Cleric/Paladin enhancement Unyielding Sovereignty has been modified to remove all negative levels and current death penalties (including the Black Abbot's renamed "Deathgrip of Dolurrh"), but only resting will reset your current death counter.

Note: All values, durations, and effects are still subject to change prior to the release of Module Six. Risia feedback is especially welcome!

[Eladrin]

My uber Wise Mask of Bluffing!


A lot of Khyber Dragonshard Fragments, and a view of the Stone of Change.


Put them in the Stone of Change and activate it! It's smart enough to only take as many shards as it needs - 81 for my minimum level 9 item.


Ritual Success!


It's bound, and now forever immune to permanent damage.

[WeaselKing]

[*]Items may be bound at a “Stone of Change”, which can be found in the Marketplace next to the Lordsmarch Bank or in The Twelve, at the base of their tower. Take your item and place it into the Stone of Change, and add (Minimum Level Requirement of the item ^ 2) Khyber Dragonshard Fragments into the device. (Khyber Dragonshard Fragments are commonly found in breakable objects.) An example of the process of binding an object is in my next post.
]

Suspicions confirmed.

[Avonwey]

I just wanted to mention that you should be very careful when placing items on the Stone of Change.

I was trying it out last night, and I guess I stepped in some Halfling along the way. And now I have a stupid halfing bound to me.

[bigal4458]

Suspicions confirmed.

I got that too, lol.

But i did also notice that this death penalty closely resembles that from the LotRO death penalty. I do however think that for capped characters, it will be become more of a deterrant...unelss there is a Paladin in the group.

[MysticTheurge]

That's a lot of dragonshards!

Also, any chance you guys are going to make Siberys Shards yellow and Khyber Shards purple like they ought to be?

Edit -- Oh, and, finally, a reason to actually take Unyielding Sovereignty.

Which brings up another question. How are the different tiers of Raise abilities going to affect the death penalty? That is what's different between Raise Dead, Resurrection and True Resurrection?

[parvo]

I really like the new Death penalty. Not quite nearly good as deleting the character, but hey, baby steps

[WeaselKing]

I got that too, lol.

But i did also notice that this death penalty closely resembles that from the LotRO death penalty. I do however think that for capped characters, it will be become more of a deterrant...unless there is a Paladin in the group.

This almost makes me want to roll a paladin.....................almost.

[Coldin]

I gotta say, any debuff that simply wears off over time merely encourages players to wait out the penalty.

[Eladrin]

That's a lot of dragonshards!

It's a lot of dragonshard fragments. Those are common in Xen'drik.

Some of the other recipes available in Module 6 involve the combination of Dragonshard Fragments and small dragonshards into more powerful ones. (Those flawed siberys shards now have a use for you higher level characters!)

[MysticTheurge]

It's a lot of dragonshard fragments. Those are common in Xen'drik.

Ah good.

(And I edited in another question if you could take a look.)

[Hendrik]

Thank you very much Eladrin for the details!!!

Now that I have read them, I can say I like it even more now that I know the details!

Looking forward to seeing this in action!

I see a potential Enhance respec for my CLR!!!!


Hmmm, any see the UI changes to Inventory?

[REDDEVIL56]

What if I bind an item that allready has perm. damage but still works?

[bigal4458]

I gotta say, any debuff that simply wears off over time merely encourages players to wait out the penalty.

Well at least it will slow party's down, allowing some of us to enjoy the content longer.

[Ciaran]

Hmm...that doesn't seem so bad. Five minutes max for five repeated deaths since resting? That's fair. Just tell me you aren't reducing the number of available shrines in game!

I rescind most of my complaints from my post in The new Death Penalty and Pemanent damage thread. Thanks for so quickly getting us the details on this, Eladrin. Relatively straightforward system.

Question, is it possible to "unbind" items, including bound raid loot?

[Qzipoun]

That's a lot of dragonshards!

Well, a lot of "fragments" for all we know all those fragments might not be a whole shard

Also, any chance you guys are going to make Siberys Shards yellow and Khyber Shards purple like they ought to be?

Edit -- Oh, and, finally, a reason to actually take Unyielding Sovereignty.

Depends, is it still on a 20 minute cooldown? I really think it should be changed to 1 charge every 20 minutes OR per shrine, using it once a quest is not very useful

Which brings up another question. How are the different tiers of Raise abilities going to affect the death penalty? That is what's different between Raise Dead, Resurrection and True Resurrection?

I am not aware of what "true resurrection" is as a spell, but it would be nice if the higher level ones gave less penalty (I guess we'll have to check it out on risia)

[Lillitheris]

Well at least it will slow party's down, allowing some of us to enjoy the content longer.

Please. Please tell me you are joking. Is waiting around doing nothing enjoyable?

Thank you for the info Eladrin.
But I must say that I don't like the death penalties at all. Or the grind for the Dragonshard fragments. Tough cookies

[QuantumFX]

Risia feedback is especially welcome!

OK, the current Risia build is dated 10/16/07...

And I still can't get into the Twelve area to test the Stone of Change there...

Hint Hint

[WeaselKing]

I gotta say, any debuff that simply wears off over time merely encourages players to wait out the penalty.

In theory, yes and this may actually work in a lot of situations but if the party all wipes but the cleric and the mobs are still alive this won't be as easy to deal with. Similar to the upcoming incap regen, in some cases you will just wait and go along your merry way but in other instances you will come back to life in the middle of an angry mob who will gladly kill you again.

[Qzipoun]

Some of the other recipes available in Module 6 involve the combination of Dragonshard Fragments and small dragonshards into more powerful ones. (Those flawed siberys shards now have a use for you higher level characters!)

Sweet! I knew it was a good idea to keep them!