Sorry but I felt this deserved its own thread. Its awesome that my ranger is already speced for this day 1...but thats not the point.


the arrows are a bit blah. returning is great but I dont think the progression is worth the cost.

I would like to see something like this:

Arcane Archer 1
+1 returning arrows at will

Arcane Archer 2
+1 returning arrow of your choice (cold,shock,acid,fire,force)

Arcane Archer 3
+1 transmuting returning arrow of your choice (cold,shock,fire,force)

Arcane Archer 4
+1 transmuting returning arrow of your choice (coldburst,shockingburst,fireburst,forceburst)

Arcane Archer 5
+1 transmuting phasing (ghost touch) returning arrow of your choice (listed burst types)


Personally I'd would have wanted
Flash arrows that blind in an area effect
Elemental arrows with an area effect
and maybe a few other spell variants that I cant think of now

but since this is the road chosen Ill stick with stuff along those lines


If you change the "at will" creation of these to an X times per rest and make it so only 1 created arrow can
exist at a time (you need to be able to toggle/dispel them) I dont see them as over-powered once you
conscider the cost.


-The static +1 - +5 bonus is underwhelming..... A good dex built ranger can hit anything with only a +1 bonus
-the returning is great ........ but even at 75% the house D arrows make me wanna save the APs and just get favor
(I ll get the house D arrows long before making the requirements for Arcane Archer)

Up side is that I dont have to carry generic arrows and I save on space.

the only comparison I can make to this enhancement line is The eschew materials which costs 1 feat and does something
similiar I estimate this enhancement line costing 10-15 APs .......

does 1 feat equal 10- 15 Aps?

I see myself only taking 1 level of this as the extra +4 to hit means very little to me (and a +5 bow over-rides the arrow)

My thoughts are a bit jumbled..so Ill bold the highlights and you guys can discuss this one if you are so inclined

(I took a long time writing this at work..so excuse me if this is now a duplicate of another thread)