Devs: It's time to get rid of or change kill counts in the experience report........

[Mhykke]

I personally don't mind them, but they cause some tension, enough to have people look to other builds and classes to post about how to go about limiting (nerfing) those classes.

Either add a whole bunch more info to them (damage taken, absorbed, damage dealt, healed, etc. etc.) or just get rid of them altogether.

Maybe then people will look how to improve their own character w/o looking to take down other characters.

DDO is great, lots of variety among all characters...sure, some classes could use a little boost.....but if we can take away, or change one of the things that cause tension between players in the game, I'm all for it.

It's about time.

[KoboldKiller]

/signed

I have a guildie that turns into a zerging fool everytime he falls behind in kill counts causing all to chase him and taxes the cleric. Not really needed anyway as it adds nothing to the game IMHO.

[maddmatt70]

/not signed. I don't want to live in ignorance although I would like more information..

[Mhykke]

/not signed. I don't want to live in ignorance although I would like more information..

So aren't you signing the add more to them part?

[SableShadow]

/signed (the add more info part)

One of the things I love about CoH/V (my other game) is the amount of available feedback. You can see pretty quickly if you're contributing compared to the rest of the group, and by how much...this lets you get better, faster at the game than any other single thing.

A *huge* issue in DDO is the time-to-level vs learning-curve; I think better feedback mechanisms will go a long way toward fixing that.

[pikkumyy28]

I would love to see a personal cumulative data. Something like the # of monster types killed, Hours spents with each character, Hours spent in groups vs. solo time, number of times you've casted specific spells, and more...

[Blind_Skwerl]

I think they should put up a stat in addition to the "kill" count.
Total damage dealt. We could easier compare builds this way.
Also wouldn't mind seeing hp healed by other characters. Can see who needs to work on their D.

[redoubt]

While I would like more info, whats gonna happen when people see the damage dealt by either DPS caster, a clerics BB or a PK/FOD caster who punches through a 1000+hp mob with each pk???

I'd love to see more data in my report, but don't show all that stuff to the whole group.

/mostly signed

[Blind_Skwerl]

I would love to see a personal cumulative data. Something like the # of monster types killed, Hours spents with each character, Hours spent in groups vs. solo time, number of times you've casted specific spells, and more...

We used to have this in Asheron's Call. We could also see how many times we had died. Some were shocking!

[GramercyRiff]

If changing this takes away from them giving us new content or being able to market this game, I'm against it.

We need frequent new content to keep people here, and marketing to get more people here.

While I think kills take away from the team aspect (it can create zerging and overcasting), I don't think it's a big enough deal to warrant a change. Don't get me wrong, DnD is a game where you need as much feedback as possible to gauge your effectiveness. I'd love for us to get more information on what we can and can't do. At this point in the game, however, that should've been done long ago. For whatever reason the game was released with minimal feedback. It's been the burden of the devs since then to try and catch up. They've done a decent job at it so far, but I'd really rather them focus on other things at the moment. They have bigger fish to fry.

[Jaywade]

I don;t like just the kill count ....it could stay if we get soemthing like this

....................... Kills................TDD (total damage delt)....HP Healed.............. highest damge ................Deaths
Asxeslar (bar............. 42 .................5782.......................... 1248 ...................... 178 ....................... ...... 8
Blaster (sorc)......... 52................. 11562 .............................. 245 .................... 1328............................. 1
Fortress (AC fighter)....10..................840............... .................... 95........................ 65................................ 0
Blackstaber (rogue)......39 ................1253 ..................................240............. ............132 ............................ 8


I think something like this would be really neat keep kill count but gives a total damage count a totaled healed amount and a highest damage number .... and dealth counter would be needed

[DiscordianPunk]

Why not just have a party count total?

[Prinstoni]

Why not just leave it as is, fix the issues that need fixed, and get some new content out...

[krud]

I really don't like the kill count report.

However, if people want more info it should not be a very difficult thing to figure out. As it is now, calculating kill count is simply matter of looking into the combat log and wherever one sees "you killed xxx" that person gets the kill. It wouldn't be hard at all to tally all the other information from the combat log either. Totaling the damage dished out, damage taken, HP healed, hit %, etc for each individual would function the same way, so it's not a complicated matter. Anything that is not reported in the combat log will not get reported, and I would not support anything that would further complicate the combat log just so some people can get their e-pen up.

Why not just have a party count total?

they already do

[Giselle]

/signed (more info part)

I'm working on my first real tank. Oh, my first toon was a tank, but she was really really bad and I killed her at about seventh level and never looked back. Since then, I've had several cleric and caster types that I've capped, but never really had a tank again. I play with a friend who has capped several tank types, and he wipes me away on the kill count all the time. However, when I'm playing with pugs or some other guildies, I hold my own or win the kill count. Since it's the only way we have to gauge our effectiveness as a tank, I look at it. However, he just hit level ten on his barbarian: VORPAL TIME! My kill count was absolutely pathetic, and some kind of stat to say, "Yes, little camper, he got all the kills because he has a vorpal, but you're still a good tank! :at head:: Now scamper off and kill something!" would be nice.

[Jack_No.7]

simply because one had a bigger killcount doesnt make him the better player or chosen class/build
just means ur the one who got the last hit, and whats wrong with rethinking ur class/build?
keeping constant track of ur killcount to mock the barbarian, is childish. checking your killcount to c that the barbarian has triple digits at the end of the mission to ur 15... priceless

classes are meant to do certain things... any class can do what they wish certain classes exceed at certain skills
im sorry but if ur in a group with a well equiped barbarian.. chances are u wont c much killcount

[Impaqt]

/signed

I have a guildie that turns into a zerging fool everytime he falls behind in kill counts causing all to chase him and taxes the cleric. Not really needed anyway as it adds nothing to the game IMHO.

Ugh.. THis is why many clerics dont have fun inthis game.....

Tell your guildy to let him die..... How many kills can you get when your in the clerics pocket?

We dont need any changes to to this.. We dont need more info.....

Totally /NOT signed

[Borror0]

I say /signed, but only if you add more information:

• Damage dealt
• Damage taken
• Kills

That's what we'd need. Otherwise, just leave it there.

[Stormanne]

Though I only started playing a cleric a couple of days ago, I'd like to see a "Points Healed" for the healing classes. So the straight up healers get a little love in the stats box. With my main being a barbarian, I know I'm a mana sponge to the cleric. I think that if it popped up that "Such and Such required XX amount of healing from This Cleric" over the course of the quest, clerics would get even more respect, especially since a healing cleric would have nothing else up in the stat box.

[Borror0]

Though I only started playing a cleric a couple of days ago, I'd like to see a "Points Healed" for the healing classes. So the straight up healers get a little love in the stats box.

If so, I'd consider the "points healed" to also consider potions. So if my fighter healed himself more than the cleric did, I mgiht want to remember the cleric's name.

Especially since a healing cleric would have nothing else up in the stat box.

I know a few clerics that get a lot of of "damage dealt" from their BB.