Bugs of note: Ladders

[captain1z]

Its been brought up by others and myself a few times already.
Just wanted to note it again in case it got lost in the shuffle.


- Ladders = I keep getting stuck on them. Someone once said its because the ladders are actually 2 ladders stuck together
as oppossed to 1 continuous ladder. While doing a quest this weekend I notice as Im 1/2 way up the ladder it did look like
there were 2 ladders overlapping each other.

This is very easy to duplicate ...just walk up any ladder in a lowbie quest (I say lowbie because ladders just arent really
that prominent in higher level quest)


In the past:

- Ive experienced bugs in STK where you would fall off ladders unless you walked backwards toward them.

- bugs where you could not climb them from the bottom because the ladder graphic was upside down and you had to jump 1/2 way
up to climb.

- bugs where you started to climb a ladder then got slingshoted thru the floor for a few seconds then pulled back up
(this bug became extra special when you were climbing out of water and it thru under....hopefully you had a UA item on because you cant switch
while lagging under water....and you will drown)





no real point to any of this ...just a reminder about ladder safety

[CrazySamaritan]

Hey, can you point out any quests in particular?

[GlassCannon]

Why, when I try to climb a ladder from near the bottom, does my character then attempt to climb it sequentially at least 8 times(popping back to the bottom of it each time), then appear below it by a measure of its full height from the bottom, then snap back on to it and climb with no problems?

It's killed my character several times now in Twilight Forge with the lava ladder near the never behind the barrier on Purple side. I refuse to do that swim because of the broken ladder.

[In_Like_Flynn]

If you get stuck on a ladder, tap the 'R' (Run) key repeatedly. You will advance past the stuck point.

Another ladder safety tip.

[Aspenor]

Hey, can you point out any quests in particular?

Happens to me ALL the time in STK, first chapter, after falling down to the water room with kobolds after the floor puzzle.

[Rowanheal]

It embarrassing to still have this bug in here when we have been complaining about it for a while...

Taking noobs through a quest and explaining "Yes, its a bug. Yes they know about it. No I don't know when it is going to be fixed." Sigh...

Yes I know to use R... it still gets you killed sometimes though...

See ya in Stormreach,

-R

[Beherit_Baphomar]

I bug reported this very thing this morning.

Try it out in Redfang...its kinda like you get a few rungs up and you stop...just for a second or two...then you carry on.

I dont think Ive ever saw it before this morning...yeah, I got stuck on some ladders, or I kept getting "pushed off"
after a few steps, but not this one...this, to me at least, is new.

[Steadfast]

Waterworks has at least two ladders that are this way, one of which features kobolds that pelt you while you're busy being stuck.

[Aspenor]

Waterworks has at least two ladders that are this way, one of which features kobolds that pelt you while you're busy being stuck.

Ohh yeah, I was talking about WW, not STK. Woops.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Waterworks has at least two ladders that are this way, one of which features kobolds that pelt you while you're busy being stuck.

Alchemist's Fire means nothing. It's that Shaman, perfectly positioned to Niac's the bejeezus outta you as you are stuck on the ladder. Poor Reflex save = dead each and every time because of a broken ladder.

[binnsr]

Hey, can you point out any quests in particular?

lets see.. Here are the ones that I can think of off the top of my head where I've noticed myself getting stuck..
starting at the beginning:
Harbor:
- Sully's Basement. (getting out of the hole)
- Millers Debt (only 1 ladder there)
- The Low Road (both sides and if you actually use the ladder coming up the pipe before the shaman)
- WW1 (the ladder up to the chest by the first switch)
- WW2 (climbing out of the water coming back from the zombies)
- WW3 (the ladder getting out of the water after the drop)
- Sewer Rescue (the ladder right before the trap and both ladders before the hobgoblin - don't remember getting stuck by the spiders though)
- Garrisons Missing Pack (climbing up either side to the switches and climbing out of the water before the end)

Market:
- STK1 (ladder heading out of the water after hitting the 3 levers, the ladder in the wight priest's room, the first ladder back in (were you to want to go back up, that is) and the ladder between lvl2 and lvl3 - after the locked grate and human necromancer (again if you wanted to go back up))
- RedFang (usually don't want to go back up those ladders, but it happens, also the ladder by the chest after the poison room)
- Swiped Signet (ladder up to the optional party, ladder out of the water by the scorpion)



I could probably continue, but I think you get the idea..

[Dane_McArdy]

Did you post all this in a bug report? There is a section of the forums for just this kind of report.

[Shamguard]

If you get stuck on a ladder, tap the 'R' (Run) key repeatedly. You will advance past the stuck point.

Another ladder safety tip.

Not on my system, I remaped it. Because: first time I was going through Waterworks and we got to the fire trap intersection.

We had a couple of people in the party who did not have voice chat enabled, this was during beta while it was still a little buggy.

So; I started to type "TRAP" well I wasn't in the text window. So; 'T'=mouse move, 'R'=Run, 'A'=left turn, and I don't now if 'P' did any thing.

What the party saw was me making a quick left turn and running off through the trap, then running in all sorts of directions, inside the trap, while I tried to use the mouse to stop myself.

Once I figured out what happened those keys all got remapped to do nothing but be text characters.

As far as this ladder issue goes. I've seen all these same bugs on just about ever ladder in the game.

[Steadfast]

Alchemist's Fire means nothing. It's that Shaman, perfectly positioned to Niac's the bejeezus outta you as you are stuck on the ladder. Poor Reflex save = dead each and every time because of a broken ladder.

pelt (v.)
Application of damaging fire, magicks, and partially eaten ham, notably by kobolds of any sort.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Hey, can you point out any quests in particular?

All of them! and this did not use to be a problem. The quests did not change.....only something about the ladders. When faced with the problem it is easy to see that the ladders are actually two ladders put together, and the stuck spot is exactly where they merge.

WW3.....very bad to get stuck on a ladder when a kobold is throwing fire at you.
Other than that is is more of an annoyance than a problem.

[krud]

Usually, I just let up on my movement key very briefly and then i can keep going. Still, it's an annoying bug. I only recently noticed this bug though. I don't seem to remember having the same problem early on. Maybe fernia didn't have this bug and it appeared after merge.

[adamkatt]

lets see.. Here are the ones that I can think of off the top of my head where I've noticed myself getting stuck..
starting at the beginning:
Harbor:
- Sully's Basement. (getting out of the hole)
- Millers Debt (only 1 ladder there)
- The Low Road (both sides and if you actually use the ladder coming up the pipe before the shaman)
- WW1 (the ladder up to the chest by the first switch)
- WW2 (climbing out of the water coming back from the zombies)
- WW3 (the ladder getting out of the water after the drop)
- Sewer Rescue (the ladder right before the trap and both ladders before the hobgoblin - don't remember getting stuck by the spiders though)
- Garrisons Missing Pack (climbing up either side to the switches and climbing out of the water before the end)

Market:
- STK1 (ladder heading out of the water after hitting the 3 levers, the ladder in the wight priest's room, the first ladder back in (were you to want to go back up, that is) and the ladder between lvl2 and lvl3 - after the locked grate and human necromancer (again if you wanted to go back up))
- RedFang (usually don't want to go back up those ladders, but it happens, also the ladder by the chest after the poison room)
- Swiped Signet (ladder up to the optional party, ladder out of the water by the scorpion)



I could probably continue, but I think you get the idea..

Whats so bad is this is a recent new bug created by out devs! YAY!

[DagazUlf]

I think the ladder issues are probably older than the Stormcleave problems... Yet, it sounds like Stormcleave might actually be all fixed up at this point?

[HumanJHawkins]

Did you post all this in a bug report? There is a section of the forums for just this kind of report.

I'm thinkin' this has been reported somewhere between 500 and a million times... And I don't think a QA person could go more than a few hours without running into it directly. So, I don't think it is a lack of reporting behind why it isn't fixed yet!

[Twerpp]

LOL, anyone who has played the game long enough to get to a ladder will see this bug. Bug report shouldn't be needed it should be posted in known issues if it hasn't already.