Quick Higher Barb Question for you DND Experts!

[Jket]

Anything after level 14 barbarian i should know about... Special Feats.. or anything they get granted.. Levels 15-20?
Ideas/Opinions Please!:

[KaKa]

Tireless rage and Mighty rage are the big ones, but check it out for yourself
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/barbarian.htm

[MrCow]

Another rage at 16 and 20.
Tireless rage at 17. (No fatigue after a rage)
Mighty rage at 20. (Another +2 STR, +2 CON, +1 Will when raged)

More damage reduction on a couple of those levels.
More trap sense at 15 and 18.

[Jket]

ty ty for the quick responses.

[Strakeln]

Don't forget about the possibility of another installment of the critical rage enhancement.

[Shade]

Don't forget about the possibility of another installment of the critical rage enhancement.

I think thats extremely unlikely, due to the massive difference even 2 levels of it already makes.
However I think higher levels of power attack enhance, power rage and other rage related enhancements could happen.

But yea tireless rage at 17 will be really nice. Mighty rage is cool but we already get up to +10 str from rage so its not as cool as it would be in PnP heh. And ofcourse the DR and trapsense are excellent..

Really barbarians benefits continue on forever, even into epic levels and as such deter multiclassing as no other class has ever increasing, stackable abilities like it.

[Strakeln]

I think thats extremely unlikely, due to the massive difference even 2 levels of it already makes.
However I think higher levels of power attack enhance, power rage and other rage related enhancements could happen.

But yea tireless rage at 17 will be really nice. Mighty rage is cool but we already get up to +10 str from rage so its not as cool as it would be in PnP heh. And ofcourse the DR and trapsense are excellent..

Really barbarians benefits continue on forever, even into epic levels and as such deter multiclassing as no other class has ever increasing, stackable abilities like it.

I suspect you are right about the crit rage enhancement... in fact, I think they may push crit rage 2 to level 16 (not that I want them to ).

The only reason I consider it a possibility is because they keep coming out with pretty powerful enhancements, and there's 6 levels between now and 20... seems ripe for another installment at 20.

[Twerpp]

Another crit rage is in order I think, or why wouldnt everyone go 18/2 or 16/4 for 2 or 3 fighter feats. Surely they outweigh the +2 str/+2 con of mighty rage, and tireless rage when there is a pot/clickie available (and who cares about trap sense you guys zerg right through them wheter you sense them or not )In DDO terms I dont see it over powering barbs, especially when you consider there should be upcoming higher level feats and abilities for the other classes as well, and plenty of non-crittable mobs and mobs with insane amounts of hp.

[Jack_No.7]

crit range 1 is at 11
crit range 2 is at 14
im going to assume if they decide to impletment crit range 3 it will be at 17 along with tireless rage
and crit 4 if it doesnt give godlike crit range will /should be at 20... but it makes sense because epic level stuff... is supposed to be epic , i wanna be able to kill 30 guys in a single swing thats my opinion... so long as theres 3000 other mobs to deal with
already now its 15-20 crit with a 1 hander that can do about 200-240 damage or a 2 hander that does about the same when fully buffed but with a 13-20 crit

[direwolf33]

I don't know what's coming at 15+, but with Indomitable Will (+4 will save raged) and Critical Rage II at 14 I think splashing any levels multi-class is kind of silly.

[Mad_Bombardier]

As KaKa already said, the number one reason against multiclassing your Barb is L20, Mighty Rage.

[Nemonon]

i agree mighty rage is a good bonus for staying true blue barbarian but +2 str and con at lvl 20 is a marginal increase at best. granted most of my experiance comes from PNP but i would gladly sacrafice that for a little more versitility or a few more feats. There is gonna have to be a little more insentive for me to hit 20 barb than that. maybe more DR would do it for me. i still think 18/2 splits will be the dominate trend at that point. Its hard to beat the extra fighter feats or maybe a ranger split and go with the tempest enhancements.

[Emili]

Barbarian is a very hard consideration to splash all the way to 20 as the returns of another class compared to what a pure 20 pulls off in ability is a hard thing to give up.

Fact is should they ever decide to go into epic levels 21-30, many multi-classed will be scratching thier heads... as epic feats make so many front end class abilities pale. You actually throw many "bonus" epic feat chains away by splashing two ore more levels of anything with most every class since the prc's are very high... The epic barbarian gains a bonus feat (selected from the list of epic barbarian bonus feats) every four levels higher than 20th. Even a feat rich class such as a fighter 16/otherclass 4 will find themselves hard pressed as they level past 20 to work in all the epic feats they could have had had they remained pure since the prc's are so strict. I really doubt we'll see epic levels however ... even when the devs had mentioned this in passing.