Permadeath guild

[LOUDRampart]

Kire, Purgatory, Alzarq want in - can you make Friday?

LOUDrampart, Kinoki, Citymorg, alistar, strakeln?

Looks like we could make a raid group, discuss final rules, create a Guild (or-Sub-Guild as the case may be), set regular crawl schedule.

I can make 10pm, Friday night. I'm thinking either an elf pali or elf cleric, gotta put some thought into it.

Kindoki and I have been trying to meet in game for a chat, but it's proved a little difficult given the time differences (I'm in Australia).

I'm in Japan so we could actually make plans to meet during the week when we both have the time. I have a teenage son who is interested in PD play too so that makes three of us during off peak time.

7. No use of the auction house.

This is one rule I just don't get. Even though we are going to play PD, that doesn't mean we're going to separate ourselves from the MMO part of the game and part of the game is the market, no matter how ridiculously priced some items are. I would think buying and selling ingame should be allowed... anywhere... but all money earned must be by that character... so no twinking at all from any alts or other players.

[WaltzInBlack]

Always loved the sound of PD. Jonahh is the character - halfling pure rogue

Thanks

[Talish]

Hmmm... any room for a lady?

I'll be around Friday look for a char named Mabel

[Citymorg]

My role in Deathwatch Guard to run all things "not uber." At this point, I am running weekly roleplaying sessions on Thursday nights and raids 1-2 nights per week. I will pick this ball up and run with it. Since there is obviously interest in Permadeath, and no one else is doing it, I will create a space with Deathwatch Guard for this play style. I will try to be on friday. I have family coming into to town and have commited to a guild event on saturday. This will have to take a backseat to that. However, if I am not able to make it, I will start a thread in our Thespian Phalanx forum on DWG.GUILDPORTAL.COM (doesn't pop) for Permadeath. Discuss what rules, what times and what frequency you want to play. When a consensus is reach, post it in our forum and will start.

[Hafeal]

Ok, I am happily surprised by the level of interest. Of course ladies are welcome Talish.

Here is the plan then, Friday night ~ 10 p.m. U.S., Central Standard Time (CST), meet in the Leaky Dinghy (Khyber server). LD so we can pick-up those quests and it is fairly out of the way with little traffic generally. No characters beyond 1st level, I am okay if you run your characters through "solo only" content to get acclimated, how does everyone feel on that?

Before Friday, I will try to list out who is coming and with what characters. We will need to have well-rounded groups, so we might need some sacrifices on character classes (someone has to play a cleric).

But it clearly sounds as if there is enough interest to have 2 groups going at first, to start a Guild and to finalize a regular schedule.

[Citymorg]

We have been discussing creating a Deathwatch Guard PD to accomodate players who want to play this style. This will allow people to have their main alts in there regular guilds and no need to join DWG with their PD characters (to avoid unwanted tells for non-PD quests). If this is ammenable to everyone, it will provide a place for players to see each other and hopefully play outside of regular planned events.

[Khyron]

Meet ya there! I'm dying to make this game interesting before I wind up quitting.... Again.

[Amabel]

This is one rule I just don't get. Even though we are going to play PD, that doesn't mean we're going to separate ourselves from the MMO part of the game and part of the game is the market, no matter how ridiculously priced some items are. I would think buying and selling ingame should be allowed... anywhere... but all money earned must be by that character... so no twinking at all from any alts or other players.

I don't feel especially strongly about this and welcome everyone's views. I also don't propose to ban "consumables" (wands etc).

But here are my thoughts on the AH. The real problem I have with the auction house is that it is the greatest facilitator of twinking in the game. People running gianthold, or pre-raids, or exploiting the Reaver at the moment are just throwing super good loot on the AH, driving the price of reasonably good loot down (check prices on +3, +4 and +5 stat items nowadays). And if you pull a really nice twink item you could sell it on the AH for enough to stock up with consumables for the life of most PD characters.

One of the best things about PD is that when you pull that +1 dwarven axe as an end reward from the Low Road you're cheering and are going to carry it through a couple of levels at least as your "uber" weapon. And that collectibles are important again. PD actually tries to get away from a typical MMO economy . It's like your old pnp DM, who would never have let you buy a +1 flaming longsword at level 4 (you'd be lucky to have a +1 anything).

So you won't always have optimal weapons and armour. You may be using that +x shortsword instead of a dwarven axe, because it's better than any axe you've ever seen. Versatility and player attributes shine again and builds aren't based around a perfect loot set. Just my thoughts, but the seriously scaled back equipment choices are one of the things I find most fun about PD, so I'm for banning the AH. And let's be honest - just selling on the AH instead of at a vendor indubitably nets you more money. I think it's incompatible with a strict "no twink" approach.

PS- looking forward to grouping with you and your son!

[Khyron]

Personally I love the Idea that you only use what you get.

For me the play style is an escape from the whole farming mentality that makes the game mind numbing. Makes it more interesting when the cleric is burning wands. Ya better Tithe

[FunandGames]

I'm one of the 3 of tmdag4's buddies he mentioned earlier. I'm definitely in!

I have rolled a 1st level Sorcerer and he's run most of the solo 1st level content, but is not 2d level yet. I guess I just have a death wish and that's why I'm choosing to play a squishy permadeath character. I hope I don't regret it, but I plan to have fun or die trying! :-)

Character's name is Gandryck Stevlyllian, Drow Sorcerer. See you there! Leaky Dinghy, 10:00pm CST.

[Kire]

This is one rule I just don't get. Even though we are going to play PD, that doesn't mean we're going to separate ourselves from the MMO part of the game and part of the game is the market, no matter how ridiculously priced some items are. I would think buying and selling ingame should be allowed... anywhere... but all money earned must be by that character... so no twinking at all from any alts or other players.

I think the main problem with this is you could have one of your toons place a twink item on there for low themn switch to your PD toon and snatch it off the auction.

~Kire

[Kire]

If you want i will start to keep track of the people coming. I'll list by forum name then i'll put the char name next to it.

Forum Name

Character Name

Character Main Class/Attribute

1. Kire

IKill

Ranging Tank

2. FunAndGames

Gandryck

Sorc

3. CityMorg

Unlisted

Unlisted

4. Khyron

Unlisted

Unlisted

5. Alistair

Elpenor

Unlisted

6. Khyron

Unlisted

dwarven fighter/cleric.

7. Tmdag4

Genivev

Healing cleric (Healing/Turning)

8. Talish

Mabel

Tactical Fighter

9. WaltzInBlack

Jonahh

Rogue

10. LoudRampart

Qualib

Pali

11. Kindoki

Unlisted

Unlisted

12. Purgatory

Unlisted

Unlisted

13. Arrrcher

Blixs

Rogue/Ranger

14. Corran99

Unlisted

Unlisted

15. Adrinor

Meridoc

Paladin

16. Unlisted

DoubleFisted

Fighter

17. Unlisted

Koockoo

Fighter

Thats all I counted in the thread who said they were coming. Please list your character class/attributes and name in this thread or send me a PM with the information and I will update the list. Thanks!

EDIT!: Sorry guys i had it spaced pretty but it got all messed up.
DOUBLE EDIT!: kk got it fixed just took some HTML.

[Kindoki]

I think the main problem with this is you could have one of your toons place a twink item on there for low themn switch to your PD toon and snatch it off the auction.

~Kire

Or, if you were going to that much trouble, you could just mail it to yourself. It's not like we have mail police. PD is predicated on everyone self policing their actions.

I tend to agree on removing the AH - to me it's a bit like telling everyone you are going to go stalk deer with just your hunting knife and then borrowing your buddies gun and blasting away. Kind of defeats the purpose. I apologize as my time is taken up this week with RL, so I can't offer much assistance, but I will be there on Friday, and before the 10pm cst start. I will make sure to have a character prepared - most likely a strategist sword and board melee type.

[arrrcher]

I am in. Friend/guilder of Kindoki's and Citymorg's.

I'll be on Blixs, a rogue/ranger type.

[Talish]

Mabel - Tactical fighter

[Kire]

List has been updated with new classes, members, and char names.

~Kire

[Hafeal]

Female Human Cleric (emphasis: healing,, turning)

Genivev

[Citymorg]

Still deciding on race/class/character

[Kire]

Still deciding on race/class/character

NP just let me know before friday please =)


List updated.

~Kire

[Corran99]

Sign me up.

I got a 1st level WF cleric Ambunaght I might play.

Either that or I might do a repeater bard since im interested in playing a bard and trying out the repeater