A Cry For Clerics!!

[xope]

I run with a lvl 14 cleric on khyber and people always say "hey Zope throw me a heal " obvisouly they ask me that when im out of mana ....A good way to get a cleric to join a group is say "will donate wands" that would help us out alot !! And people always say there tired of waiting for a cleric.......well we clerics DO NOT get really anything from a quest sure we will get a thanks or something like that sure that helps it but seriously clerics need a break we heal ALL THE TIME and Battleclerics is popular because the can play 2 roles a fighter a healer which makes them not so boring also if ur out of mana on a Battle cleric u can just go straight to healing and tanking it out .And also we use Mnomonics like any other normal item We havea -1 to loot or something .....im always tired of supporting a party without wands or plat givin in return but if u ask me to heal you PROVIDE Your OWN WANDS!!!!LOL let me put it this way clerics really get a down on a quest cause the rely on something anything u never know . Think about it if a party member donated 2k to a cleric for each quest 2x6=12kpp which is alot for some or a cure serious wand thats 300 charges of healing .... i just want to plea plz give us a break and share some money its hard to live like a cleric. To end with i Know clerics shouldnt rely on wands or anything at that but u ar forced to when u have a zerging mana sponge










I would like to say ty all that donate to me and the cleric foundation

[Arianrhod]

Unfortunately, I think it's mostly the people who don't read the forums that don't realize clerics a)use wands on them and b)could really use some donations to defray the cost of doing so. Might help to mention that in group - if nothing else, can ask the zerging barbarian to please fight in the firewall or you're going to have to carry his stone to the next fight to save money

[transtemporal]

I think people who have never played a cleric before don't know how expensive it is: wands, rez scrolls. I have a clr at 4 and already I can see it becoming expensive. My sorc always carries a couple of rez scrolls and a couple of cure serious wands for the healer if they're wandwhipping or scrollcasting. Most times I offer them anyway. Gotta spread the love.

[binnsr]

I think people who have never played a cleric before don't know how expensive it is: wands, rez scrolls. I have a clr at 4 and already I can see it becoming expensive. My sorc always carries a couple of rez scrolls and a couple of cure serious wands for the healer if they're wandwhipping or scrollcasting. Most times I offer them anyway. Gotta spread the love.

I have a capped cleric who rarely has a death -- the only scrolls I use are greater restoration and the occasional heal (mostly this stack is for doomsphere runs - and I certainly don't use those on the other members in that quest ) scroll. I do have a small stack of resurrection and raise dead, but I honestly don't think I've used one in a month or more (and she gets game time 3 nights out of 4 these days).

Sure, she burned a little cash while I was growing her, but without receiving a single donation in her career, she's been consistently my richest character to date.

[Pfamily]

I don't play a cleric, but know a few fairly well and I do feel your pain about the expense of wands.scrolls etc. I usually remember to tip the healer, but no one ever made me a tip calculator. What do you all think is a reasonable donation to make to your friendly in-party cleric?

[xope]

i think lvl 1-3 doesnt need a donation unless ur donating 100pp
4-6 1kpp or 500pp if ur poor
7-9 5kpp for those rez scrolls they buy
10-12 8kpp for scrolls of heal
13-14 same as 10-12



Instead of pp you can donate wands.

[Pfamily]

i think lvl 1-3 doesnt need a donation unless ur donating 100pp
4-6 1kpp or 500pp if ur poor
7-9 5kpp for those rez scrolls they buy
10-12 8kpp for scrolls of heal
13-14 same as 10-12



Instead of pp you can donate wands.

Geez...I'm rolling a cleric!

[Impaqt]

I have a Blurb in my Bios asking people to take care of their Clerics......

If they do, great, If not, No Big deal.

If you cant afford and dont enjoy your cleric, then you should probobly play another class.

If you never get any donations then theres a couple posibilites...

The People you play with dont have the plat themselves.......

Or

Your not that good at clericing....

[xope]

MY cleric i love him to death he makes me wanna play ddo and not quit im just saying a donation here or there would help out

[binnsr]

If you never get any donations then theres a couple posibilites...

The People you play with dont have the plat themselves.......

Or

Your not that good at clericing....

Make blanket statements much?
Walk a mile in other folks shoes before assuming that they're bad clerics because they don't rely on other folks handouts to survive.

I have never asked for and will never ask for my party members to carry my cleric through *any* quest. I usually get floated the odd CSW or CCW wand out of chests and occasionally I'll have someone offer to buy me a CSW wand or two - but since I haven't used the other 10 that I have accumulated in my pack, I usually tell them to save it.

[caliestro]

i have a lvl 14 cleric he is tough to manage. just to keep funds up. i would spend about 2 wands 3 rez scrolls and 3 heal scrolls for non-raid missions. i only run my cleric in a guild raid. if the party seems spongy i ask if any of them have clerics. i rarely have a death in my party cause i sit there and monitor a quest. it just sucks because people only look for clerics i have a guildie who has a bard who can keep up with 80% of the best clerics on our server. he has to hunt for a group. i don't care what class joins my group if i am on any of my toons. i would run the abbott without a cleric and i would run the dragon without a rezzer and healer. its the parties OWN obligation to be aware of how you fight if you don't heal yourself then ur not a good player. the cleric really is there to monitor and make sure that a party doesn't wipe. i had one guildie who only made fighter types till i forced him to make a cleric so he can understand the difficulty of being a healer and being a fighter. once he made that type of player he became a twice as better player as a fighter and a cleric because he can monitor his own health and others in the party. when i am on my alts i can tell when others need my assistance. if i am on my ranger or pally i toss remove disease on people when needed. pally and mages i toss remove curse cause i carry the wands. the best type of player is those who don't rely on others to succeed. my rogue carries wands of resist my ranger has remove curse pots my sorc and wizzy have lesser restore pots and all of them have a manner of healing. just seems that those who post up just for cleric and those who don't assist with fundage should evaluate themselves again and think about the bigger picture. am i really not that good cause i have to have these classes in my group to finish a quest???

[Impaqt]

Make blanket statements much? Yes, as a matter of fact, I do
Walk a mile in other folks shoes before assuming that they're bad clerics because they don't rely on other folks handouts to survive.

I have never asked for and will never ask for my party members to carry my cleric through *any* quest. I usually get floated the odd CSW or CCW wand out of chests and occasionally I'll have someone offer to buy me a CSW wand or two - but since I haven't used the other 10 that I have accumulated in my pack, I usually tell them to save it.

Does that make them Wrong?

I have no idea what our complaining about..... I never said clerics who dont take donations are bad......

I play 3 diferent Cleric Builds...... I have a fair amount of Plat and Loot.... I dont turn down donations and get them a lot..... THen again, I spend significantly more resources than an average cleric because I DO have fun with my clerics... I cant ever imagine aving too many wands, Res scrolls or Heal scrolls.... I use my mana as a last resort for healing usually.... I'm throwing down Offensive and CC Spells to help the party as well.

I'm really not sure why you feel offended by my statement..... Seems to me you play with folks who have a lot of money or do indeed think your a good cleric.... regardless of whether you accept the donation all the time or not.....

[binnsr]

I'm really not sure why you feel offended by my statement.....

me either .. seems that I'm more eager to be offended the later in the day it gets at work .. I should have a blanket policy of not perusing these forums when work sucks

Is it too late to apologize for the tone of that last post?

[Impaqt]

me either .. seems that I'm more eager to be offended the later in the day it gets at work .. I should have a blanket policy of not perusing these forums when work sucks

Is it too late to apologize for the tone of that last post?

No Problem

Cant say I've never typed something without thinking it all the way through

[Mapa]

it just sucks because people only look for clerics i have a guildie who has a bard who can keep up with 80% of the best clerics on our server. he has to hunt for a group.

QFT


This coming from a guy that has to be reminded to throw Fighter Crack when he plays his caster!!!

I am either Cali's example or the one he forgot. I don't know how a cleric can keep up without guild support.

P.S. If you ever group with me, say something before or after a quest, Most PUG Clerics I run across tend to drop group before I remember those heals and / or rezzes while lost in the "what am I going to take as an end reward" analysis. I tend to tip better at the end and I don't consider it begging. I also don't mind if you tell me to put a shield on, that goes for my rogue too.

[narizue]

Heya Binnsr,

Yah got to remember that you roll your cleric in guild or friend of guild groups 90% of the time, and that most of the folks that we roll with are militantly self-sufficent. Its cheap to heal in those situations. Its when you are playing with less self-sufficent players that the bills really roll in. With Hemdal I spend plat to have play mana. I could get by without using scrolls and wands but would be bored silly.

When pugging with my cleric(a rare occurance indeed) it can get expensive, unless there are at least a couple of solid folks in the group.

[DSL]

i think lvl 1-3 doesnt need a donation unless ur donating 100pp
4-6 1kpp or 500pp if ur poor
7-9 5kpp for those rez scrolls they buy
10-12 8kpp for scrolls of heal
13-14 same as 10-12


Instead of pp you can donate wands.

Sorry, but this seems kind of excessive, considering it's more than I will often make in one session with a given group/cleric. Look at it this way: You're doing pretty well for yourself if you can manage an overall take of 2000pp/chest at level 12-14, and I would say 1500pp is more realistic. This means that it would take 5-6 chests to clear your suggested 8k pp donation (my experience is that 5-10 k pp/hour is average, depending on what you're doing). It's pretty common that a cleric who's PUGging it won't stick around for much more than that, so what you're suggesting is that I donate to the cleric all or more than what I'm making from a run. I'm happy to donate to a cleric, especially after a particularly trying excursion, but I would like to make some profit overall. One thing I often do is to choose Mnemonic potions from the reward list (assuming there's nothing better) and donate these instead.

[xope]

I know it is a little excessive id probally drop each lvl by 2kpp

[narizue]

I have a cleric myself. I don't tip often. But when I do I tip well. Of course I also arrive at the quest prepared to be self-sufficent.

Personally I would prefer if the tips that folks throw to clerics would be directed into some solid gear for themselves that does not include the "crappy-mid tier weapon of greater crappy mob bane." Resistance cloaks. Healing pots. Disease/Poison Immunity items. Lesser restoration clickies. The time to farm Visors of the Flesh Rendor Guard. A properly prepared characters really has no need to tip a cleric, because unless things go really bad, they are not costing the cleric much if at all.

[Hvymetal]

Xope, do you remember to tip your bard?