DDO & Vista x64?

[neoanderthal]

Has anyone run DDO on Windows Vista x64, any version? My girlfriend and I are putting together a computer for her to play on, and I'm curious to hear from anyone running DDO on such a platform.

thanks,
neo

[slammedcivic2007]

I run Windows vista home edition. I dont have any problems. Just a few things you might need to know. While updateing the game you might need to run the update in adminastration mode just for the update. ( With my vista i need to do that because the game will crashed if launched in admin mode) After the update close the program and then reopen it and it will do another small update then you'll be golden

[neoanderthal]

Thanks for the heads-up!

[Theboz]

If you dont need x64bit, dont get it. I mean if you have no software that says its 64bit optimized, you have no need for Vista 64bit.

Software, including DDO and ALL games that are 32bit will not use the 64bit optimization.


Now, if you plan to have more then 3gigs of memory then thats another reason to get the 64bit version.


Even though, AMD and Itel have made there chips 64 bit very few programs take the advantage of it. In the future that will be different and by that time Vista will be a memory.


If you dont want the hassle playing games, then just settle with the 32bit version.

[flatlyne2001]

If I had to do something different I would have set my system up to duel boot with XP. I'd have triple digit fps in XP where I have decent 2digit ones in Vista. Plus the whole sound thing in Vista, but that's another story.

[neoanderthal]

I appreciate the good-intentioned advice about skipping 64-bit, but unfortunately that isn't what I was looking for.

To recap: My g/f is building a new computer for herself under my guidance. It's a new computer, so we have to purchase a copy of Windows for the machine. Our dilemma is whether DDO will run fine under the 64-bit version of Vista. It's already been decided that she's going to bite the bullet and go with Vista, instead of running XP and then upgrading to Vista at some point. This is why I'm looking for any experience, pro or con, WRT running the DDO client under 64-bit Vista. I only want to buy the operating system once, and if it works fine under 64-bit, then we'll go with that. Her processor is 64-bit, her motherboard supports more than 4GB of RAM, and it's a system she's going to be using for a few years at least.

I understand the willingness to discuss the relative merits of framerates on XP versus Vista, 32- vs. 64-bit, driver support, etc., but this thread was started to hear from anyone who happened to be running DDO under x64 Vista.

so, anyone else have any hands-on experience with x64 Vista and DDO?

[vertigo14]

OS X for MAC is a serious 64bit platform...Leopard
you dont have to buy home, home premium, business, ultimate 32 bit or 64 bit versions.. haha MS is lame
and am not limited to 3.2gigs of ram.. or DX9 vs DX10 haha..what a crock
well I am when I boot into xp or vista tho.. but since my system has 4gigs of ram I run OS X with .8 gigs of ram..(runs just fine too) and tell parallels to use 3.3 gigs for XP

And yes I can run XP or Vista while in OSX (under boot camp and parallels) and play my games, including DDO

[Theboz]

OS X for MAC is a serious 64bit platform...Leopard
you dont have to buy home, home premium, business, ultimate 32 bit or 64 bit versions.. haha MS is lame
and am not limited to 3.2gigs of ram.. or DX9 vs DX10 haha..what a crock
well I am when I boot into xp or vista tho.. but since my system has 4gigs of ram I run OS X with .8 gigs of ram..(runs just fine too) and tell parallels to use 3.3 gigs for XP

And yes I can run XP or Vista while in OSX (under boot camp and parallels) and play my games, including DDO

Run for cover its a MAC Attack. Each have their strength and each have faults. If thats all you could come up with then thats not worth even talking about.

DDO does not have any support for 64bit or the need for 4gigs of memory, so why would this a problem with with having windows xp or vista.

The only reason anybody ever needs 64bit operating system is if they have more then 3 gigs of memory and they have 64bit programs, thats it noting else would see any difference in profomance from 64bit.

[Hambo]

I appreciate the good-intentioned advice about skipping 64-bit, but unfortunately that isn't what I was looking for.

To recap: My g/f is building a new computer for herself under my guidance. It's a new computer, so we have to purchase a copy of Windows for the machine. Our dilemma is whether DDO will run fine under the 64-bit version of Vista. It's already been decided that she's going to bite the bullet and go with Vista, instead of running XP and then upgrading to Vista at some point. This is why I'm looking for any experience, pro or con, WRT running the DDO client under 64-bit Vista. I only want to buy the operating system once, and if it works fine under 64-bit, then we'll go with that. Her processor is 64-bit, her motherboard supports more than 4GB of RAM, and it's a system she's going to be using for a few years at least.

I understand the willingness to discuss the relative merits of framerates on XP versus Vista, 32- vs. 64-bit, driver support, etc., but this thread was started to hear from anyone who happened to be running DDO under x64 Vista.

so, anyone else have any hands-on experience with x64 Vista and DDO?

It really depends on wether the hardware is on microsoft's compatability list. One thing with Vista is that the only hardware that really works has "signed" drivers that are tested and certified to work.

When I built my system 18 months ago I verified that everything was supported by Vista before purchasing the components. I have never had any issues with any software that DOES NOT try to install driver shims between the hardware and OS, as Vista was designed to prevent that as a security measure. I run 64 bit Vista Ultimate, btw, because I wanted all the goodies that come with the home versions (media center) and have to have the business and network support of the business side for my job.

Vista 64bit actually creates a "Program Files" directory for 64 bit applications and a "Program Files(x86)" directory for 32 bit apps, and automatically installs in the correct directory. The only thing with DDO installation that popped up for me is that I had to go to "Control Panel/User Accounts" and uncheck the "User Accounts Control" box and reboot, because normally Vista will block the installation. After I installed I turned UAC back on.

So, to recap, If you properly spec your hardware you should have no problems.

[Gratch]

DDO was working for me on Vista-64 premium. Sound would just go away some times, but I think that's a driver problem in all games.

[neoanderthal]

Thanks for the replies WRT to x64 Vista. When we were looking for components, we made sure each had decent x64 Vista support (i.e., recent Vista x64 drivers) before she purchased anything. It should be a pretty sweet setup, I think - we're just waiting for the supply and the price of the HD 3870 cards to stabilize, and we'll be all set.

WRT Macintosh - er, I like Macs and all, but my g/f wanted to build her own computer, so Macintosh isn't even in the picture. Aside from that, I don't think she'd be too keen on running DDO under emulation/virtual machine under OS X, and I personally know how inconvenient dual-boot can be at times. Thanks, but again, this thread was about DDO and Vista x64.

Lastly, I understand the continued comments about not needing a 64-bit OS to run DDO, but there are other things that this computer will be used for that will definitely take advantage of the availability of more RAM (particularly Adobe's CS3 suite), so it would be nice if DDO runs on x64 Vista.

Thanks again for the feedback

[Gol]

I just got a new laptop with Vista Ultimate x64 - old laptop was Vista Business (32 bit). I run windowed DDO fine in both of them, but for some reason the 64 bit laptop takes 6-7 seconds to alt-tab, but the old one alt-tabs as fast as any other app.

[neoanderthal]

I just got a new laptop with Vista Ultimate x64 - old laptop was Vista Business (32 bit). I run windowed DDO fine in both of them, but for some reason the 64 bit laptop takes 6-7 seconds to alt-tab, but the old one alt-tabs as fast as any other app.

Hmmm, weird WRT alt-tab - i wonder if it has to do with switching between 64-bit and the 32-bit emulator? dunno... Glad to hear that it works ok, though, aside from that - thanks for the information! I really appreciate it

[Master_of_None]

Not sure if this is still relevant for you, but I've been playing DDO with 64-bit Vista Ultimate for 4-5 months, and it's been working fine.

[neoanderthal]

Not sure if this is still relevant for you, but I've been playing DDO with 64-bit Vista Ultimate for 4-5 months, and it's been working fine.

Absolutely! I'm trying to get as much information from people about DDO and 64-bit Vista as possible. Did you have to jump through any hoops to get it working ok? I know that some people have had issues with UAC, and had to run the program as Administrator to perform the updates (but not to play the game itself).

[Gol]

Just to follow up...

I posted about another problem I have here: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=132241

Long story short, I'm in the process of creating a separate partition to dual boot. Vista, unlike XP, is very multi-boot friendly. Just google "dual boot xp vista" and you'll get a ton of very helpful hits. I have multiple valid XP keys to do this with, so I'm just gonna go for it and get it over with. My comp is fast enough that rebooting doesn't take but a minute.

[neoanderthal]

Just to follow up...

I posted about another problem I have here: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=132241

Long story short, I'm in the process of creating a separate partition to dual boot. Vista, unlike XP, is very multi-boot friendly. Just google "dual boot xp vista" and you'll get a ton of very helpful hits. I have multiple valid XP keys to do this with, so I'm just gonna go for it and get it over with. My comp is fast enough that rebooting doesn't take but a minute.

I have a little thinkpad with vista business that i was playing DDO on, but it was 32-bit. I'm hoping to get the desktops upgraded to 64-bit very soon, now, which is why I was hoping to hear about individual experiences.

I hope someone helps you out with your problem in the other thread - if I come across anything, I'll open my yap.

[Gol]

Aye, like I mentioned in that other thread - I played on Vista Business 32 bit with NO PROBLEMS. Vista Ultimate x64 I am having problems with.

[Master_of_None]

Absolutely! I'm trying to get as much information from people about DDO and 64-bit Vista as possible. Did you have to jump through any hoops to get it working ok? I know that some people have had issues with UAC, and had to run the program as Administrator to perform the updates (but not to play the game itself).

I don't remember how the initial installation worked and if I had to run it as administrator then. My normal user account has administrator privileges, but I don't do anything special when running or updating the client.

[Standpoint]

I play DDO on VIsta Business x64, and have had no problems.

Personally, one of the first things I did was to get rid of the UAC service. I stripped much of the security 'features' that Vista x64 offers, personal preference. I don't like having to tell Vista to run anything as an admin, I prefer it to be the default.

x64 is great, driver support is much improved over the XP x64. If you have an x64 CPU, and no compatibility problems w/ printers, etc. then go for it. The only problem I have heard that may bother some people is that iTunes doesn't work? I don't have an ipod, so I haven't really looked into this that much.