Drow Barbarian - TWF

[2p1k3]

Please Advice.

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Kimmie Sui'Kuhn

Level 14 True Neutral Drow Female
(2 Fighter \ 12 Barbarian) 
Hit Points: 212
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 11
Will: 3

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 14)
Strength             14                    15
Dexterity            20                    25
Constitution         12                    14
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             10                    10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 14)
Balance               7                    15.5
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         1                     2
Diplomacy             0                     0
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     3
Heal                 -1                     7
Hide                  5                     7
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  6                    21
Listen               -1                     1
Move Silently         5                     7
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     0
Search                0                     2
Spot                 -1                     1
Swim                  2                     4
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse

Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword

Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Barbarian Jump I

Level 4 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: DEX
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Improved Drow Spell Resistence I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I

Level 5 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I

Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Jump II

Level 7 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Improved Drow Spell Resistence II

Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: DEX
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II

Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II

Level 10 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III

Level 11 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III

Level 12 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage III

Level 13 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage IV

Level 14 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV

[BUpcott]

You realize weapon finesse doesn't mean that any weapon you use goes off your dex rather than str right?

Weapon Finesse:
You use your Dexterity bonus instead of Strength bonus to determine bonus to attack with certain weapons.
Prerequisite: Base Attack Bonus +1
You may select from the following list:
-Unarmed
-Dagger
-Handaxe
-Short Sword
-Rapier
-Sickle
-Kukri
-Kama
-Light Mace
-Light Pick
-Light Hammer

[Cowdenicus]

I do not like this build at all.

The only reason to make a drow barbarian is to dual wield picks, a light and a heavy.

You do not have the strength you need, and way too much dex. Your con is horrible for this build seeing as you might generate alot of agro.

Your feats are wrong, and I just dont like it.

Edit this post is just a critique.

My suggestions drop dex to 16, boost str and con. go pierce specced (improved crit) drop the 2 fighter levels, drop the bastard sword feat. Get some nice picks and go to town.

Go straight BARBARIAN.

[BUpcott]

I do not like this build at all.

The only reason to make a drow barbarian is to dual wield picks, a light and a heavy.

You do not have the strength you need, and way too much dex. Your con is horrible for this build seeing as you might generate alot of agro.

Your feats are wrong, and I just dont like it.

Edit this post is just a critique.

My suggestions drop dex to 16, boost str and con. go pierce specced (improved crit) drop the 2 fighter levels, drop the bastard sword feat. Get some nice picks and go to town.

Go straight BARBARIAN.

Going to have to disagree on one point but the rest I agree.

The only reason to make a Drow Barbarian is because you wanna try something different. It's effectiveness is all in how you play it, unfortunately like Cow said this one seems to fall a lil short in a few areas.

[Aesop]

Yeah I'm with Cow on this I don't hink you'll get the mileage out of this that you want. I'd re Conceptualize what you are trying to accomplish here.

Aesop

[Cowdenicus]

Try something like this, it might work better.

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PIckbarb 
Level 14 Chaotic Good Drow Male
(14 Barbarian) 
Hit Points: 230
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 8
Will: 4

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 14)
Strength             16                    18
Dexterity            16                    18
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma             10                    10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 14)
Balance               5                    12.5
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         2                     3
Diplomacy             0                     0
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     0
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  3                     4
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  7                    21
Listen                3                    18
Move Silently         3                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     0
Search                0                     2
Spot                  2                    10.5
Swim                  3                     4
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower I
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance I

Level 2 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I

Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I

Level 4 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I

Level 5 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Item Defense I
Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower II
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance II

Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II

Level 7 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II

Level 8 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II

Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Item Defense II

Level 10 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III

Level 11 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III

Level 12 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV

Level 13 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage IV

Level 14 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage II

You could change the level 3 feat for toughness or power attack even.

[2p1k3]

Thank you for the example Cow Yes I thought Khopeshes would be the answer and even selected the feat but then saw that the game was not substituting my dex in. doh! guess it's good the toon is only lvl 2 lol Thank you again for the example Cow. I plan on using it; though was thinking of substituting the lvl 3 Feat for Khopeshes.

[Cowdenicus]

Thank you for the example Cow Yes I thought Khopeshes would be the answer and even selected the feat but then saw that the game was not substituting my dex in. doh! guess it's good the toon is only lvl 2 lol Thank you again for the example Cow. I plan on using it; though was thinking of substituting the lvl 3 Feat for Khopeshes.

as a barbarian, it is my opinion you will want light picks or heavy pick, light pick off hand.

With the enhancement/feat build I gave you, you get a x4 crit on a roll of 17-20. With bursting picks, the dps is insane. Plus you can use the feat to get a +1 bonus to hit with all piercing weapons (like I used) OR you can use the feat for toughness.

As a 2 weapon khopesh fighter, with the stats (needing to be split 3 ways) your to hit will suffer too much especially the -4/-4 from using heavy weapons in your off hand.

My advice, stick with the picks.

[LongLive]

i would have to agree theres alot i woudl change on that build for the style i play for a barb..


first i would like to give props for trying something diffrent...


But as i look at your hp i dont see a barb i see a ranger/casters HP

imo i dont see the need to really go past extedn rage 3 and or have more then 1 extra rage, iv found running with my barb 5 rages at 2:30 second is more then enough on any quest in game on elite between shrines..

I would also lose the feat u took at lvl 3 wep focus, when ragred u wont even really notcie the diff with that +1 to hit being gone.. would suggest maybe a toughness to open the toughness line and max it out giving u another 50 hp would also free up some fo your pointless fillers i see in your enhasments.

i would also suggest making it elf over drow, as drow are 32 point builds , but have some locked in stats at 10 wich makes the over all point to putn out where u want a 28 point build...



over all i would think of this toon as a support fighter, but as long as your having fun thats all that really matters... i would of went with elf over drow my self, just so i could tweek the stat points more the way to suit a barb.

And rolled him 17str 11 dex 16 con and dumped the few last points into wisdom..



Ruca

[Cowdenicus]

i would have to agree theres alot i woudl change on that build for the style i play for a barb..


first i would like to give props for trying something diffrent...


But as i look at your hp i dont see a barb i see a ranger/casters HP

imo i dont see the need to really go past extedn rage 3 and or have more then 1 extra rage, iv found running with my barb 5 rages at 2:30 second is more then enough on any quest in game on elite between shrines..

I would also lose the feat u took at lvl 3 wep focus, when ragred u wont even really notcie the diff with that +1 to hit being gone.. would suggest maybe a toughness to open the toughness line and max it out giving u another 50 hp would also free up some fo your pointless fillers i see in your enhasments.

i would also suggest making it elf over drow, as drow are 32 point builds , but have some locked in stats at 10 wich makes the over all point to putn out where u want a 28 point build...



over all i would think of this toon as a support fighter, but as long as your having fun thats all that really matters... i would of went with elf over drow my self, just so i could tweek the stat points more the way to suit a barb.

And rolled him 17str 11 dex 16 con and dumped the few last points into wisdom..



Ruca

You cannot go 11 dex and get the two weapon fighting feats though. Need 17 base + inherent dex for the two weapon fighting feats.

[ArkoHighStar]

as a barbarian, it is my opinion you will want light picks or heavy pick, light pick off hand.

With the enhancement/feat build I gave you, you get a x4 crit on a roll of 17-20. With bursting picks, the dps is insane. Plus you can use the feat to get a +1 bonus to hit with all piercing weapons (like I used) OR you can use the feat for toughness.

As a 2 weapon khopesh fighter, with the stats (needing to be split 3 ways) your to hit will suffer too much especially the -4/-4 from using heavy weapons in your off hand.

My advice, stick with the picks.

or wounding of puncturing rapiers/short swords if you have the cash as drow get an enhancement line to those

[Cold_Stele]

Do you have 32 point builds open?

If so you're wasting 4 points on Int and Cha. *edit - as posted by LongLive - oops*

Go Elf and pump these points into Dex.

You must have a 19 base Dex (18 starting +1 tome) to pick up Superior TWF at lvl 15.

[Shade]

Barbarians = rage..
Rage = str
.. So you have to make a str based build, there no finesse barbarians. Were all muscle and nothing about us is finesse.

Proper TWF stats are:
Str18, Dex17, Rest in con, or put wis to 10 for better will save. always min int/cha

Str - yea like I said str based, only way to go. always max it. all level up points here too.
Dex 17 - Yes superior needs 19 - but if you really plan to bring a character all the way to level15 and beyond to go max dps with the full TWF chain - your getting your 1750 favor tome and it might as well be dex.. So that will qualify you. If that plan fails miserably you can always fall back on a putting a lvl up put into dex.
Con = Rage length, you want to rage 100% by lvl10ish so get some points in here and find the best con item you can get.

Feats are pretty simple, no room to customize unfortunately: TWF line, Power attack, Imprv Crit Slash or Pierce (depends on what ur best weps are)

And comon, be a proper barbarian and use 2 LARGE weapons. No silly light picks. A full BAB MAX Str char can handle another -2 to hit penalty any day.