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    Default alignment changed on my cleric

    my cleric was true neutral so i could use the new spells.i logged him the otherday and noticed the change to lawful good.is there a way to get it fixed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleep Wurp View Post
    my cleric was true neutral so i could use the new spells.i logged him the otherday and noticed the change to lawful good.is there a way to get it fixed?
    This is probably best addressed by our in-game GM's, who should be able to provide you with a bit more information.

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    ??? The answer will be sorry, theres nothing we can do.

    There is/(Was?) a thread aroudn here somewhere for people to post their gripes about this mysterious "Hindsight Bug"
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    Don't you have to be online to get GM help? There is an easy fix for this.

    1. Book vacation, quit your RL job, tell your signifigant other/kids that you need a little 'me' time, whatever applies.
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    This has been revisited dozens of times.... Sine No One takes a screenshot of their allignment the day they make their character, there is no evidence that the allignment actually changed. Devs have never been able to reproduce the alignment change "Bug" THe overwhelming majority of cases can be attributed to the default Allignment for the Class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karch View Post
    This is probably best addressed by our in-game GM's, who should be able to provide you with a bit more information.
    why did this dude even post anything at all?

    Maybe you should have just said "go get bent?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harncw View Post
    why did this dude even post anything at all?

    Maybe you should have just said "go get bent?"
    Perhaps he posted because he can't do anything but he didn't want the person to feel like their problem didn't matter?

    Stop trying to stir garbage up, the in game customer support has been improving greatly both in speed of response and level of service. There's no need to make a post just to be rude like that.

    That having been said, I had this happen to one of my characters and was told there was nothing they could do. I'm not sure if anything has changed since that time, but I wouldn't get your hopes up about it (unless you have a screen shot of your character with the previous alignment)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    This has been revisited dozens of times.... Sine No One takes a screenshot of their allignment the day they make their character, there is no evidence that the allignment actually changed. Devs have never been able to reproduce the alignment change "Bug" THe overwhelming majority of cases can be attributed to the default Allignment for the Class.
    What if it happens to a paladin, what if their alignment became lawful neutral? There is proof right there, you could not be a paladin if your not lawful good to start with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithrani View Post
    Default alignment of the class? What are you talking about default alignment is always lawful good. And what if it happens to a paladin, what if their alignment became lawful neutral? There is proof right there, you could not be a paladin if your not lawful good to start with.
    Uh, No, Barbarians and bards cannot be Lawful good. They do not "Default" to Lawful Good at all.

    To this day, no one has ever shown a Screenshot of a Lawful bard ot Barbarian, or a Paladin that is anything other than lawful Good.

    As soon as I see that, I'll believe there actually is a bug.

    Nice Necro btw......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Uh, No, Barbarians and bards cannot be Lawful good. They do not "Default" to Lawful Good at all.

    To this day, no one has ever shown a Screenshot of a Lawful bard ot Barbarian, or a Paladin that is anything other than lawful Good.

    As soon as I see that, I'll believe there actually is a bug.

    Nice Necro btw......
    Right forgot about Barbs and Bards, my apologies just upset this bug happened to a friend of mine today, he is screwed out of using all his pure good weapons now. So you may not have seen a lawful barb or bard but I have seen him use his weapons and now he can't. Mind you he is way to low level for UMD.

    BTW you still not not answer my question about a pally, if there was a pic of a lawful neutral pally think they would change the alignment back?

    Nice Necro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithrani View Post
    BTW you still not not answer my question about a pally, if there was a pic of a lawful neutral pally think they would change the alignment back?

    Nice Necro?
    One would have to assume that a screenshot would suffice for evidence.... and necro is reviving a thread that is long dead... something I personally am quite fond of doing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kindoki View Post
    One would have to assume that a screenshot would suffice for evidence.... and necro is reviving a thread that is long dead... something I personally am quite fond of doing...
    Please post the Screenshot. There are Many of us very interested to see a character that breaks any allignment rule.

    ANy yes, if you had a non Lawful-Good Paladin, i would expect the GM's to do something about that. ANd I would Certainlly apologize to anyone I may have offended by making light of this "Bug"
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    Oh yeah well there is no thread that pertains to this when you search, this is not resolved and this is only 2 months old and should not have died but should have stayed at the top since it is BS that they don't give any support on this matter. No one ever has it resolved because there is no proof of it with pics. There is a thread of "issues" http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ight=alignment it is not listed here either. The GM's give you a thread to research this issue yourself, and you get a message stating the thread does not exist and if you followed a valid link to report it which I did. So consider this a resurrection instead of animate dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Please post the Screenshot. There are Many of us very interested to see a character that breaks any allignment rule.

    ANy yes, if you had a non Lawful-Good Paladin, i would expect the GM's to do something about that. ANd I would Certainlly apologize to anyone I may have offended by making light of this "Bug"
    He was not a pally, was CG went to CN. But he used pure good weapons.
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    If this is a bug... Seems the only class this bug appears to affect is the Cleric. Kinda wish my cleric would get the affliction. I would love the opportunity to change Alignment.

    I am an advocate of allowing characters to change alignment. Of course requisite alignments should never be allowed to change, so LG pali can never be anything else, bard, barbarian can never be lawful... etc, etc, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithrani View Post
    Oh yeah well there is no thread that pertains to this when you search, this is not resolved and this is only 2 months old and should not have died but should have stayed at the top since it is BS that they don't give any support on this matter. No one ever has it resolved because there is no proof of it with pics. There is a thread of "issues" http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ight=alignment it is not listed here either. The GM's give you a thread to research this issue yourself, and you get a message stating the thread does not exist and if you followed a valid link to report it which I did. So consider this a resurrection instead of animate dead.
    The original thread(s), which do date back a lot farther than a couple months, were likely another victim of the forum data loss dealie. Even then IIRC, most of the answers that were anywhere near 'official' were that there was no fix for it because they couldn't find any trail leading to the alignment change event. Being a data bit that is set at creation, and I would bet my paycheck that that datafield is set to be non-editable, well...
    Hence the general disbelief in the event until such time as credible screenies are posted and verified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LOUDRampart View Post
    If this is a bug... Seems the only class this bug appears to affect is the Cleric. Kinda wish my cleric would get the affliction. I would love the opportunity to change Alignment.

    I am an advocate of allowing characters to change alignment. Of course requisite alignments should never be allowed to change, so LG pali can never be anything else, bard, barbarian can never be lawful... etc, etc, etc.
    No my friend is not a cleric, he is a rogue/fighter and I have heard of this bug many many times before mentioned in other threads and not everyone affected was a cleric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdbd3rd View Post
    The original thread(s), which do date back a lot farther than a couple months, were likely another victim of the forum data loss dealie. Even then IIRC, most of the answers that were anywhere near 'official' were that there was no fix for it because they couldn't find any trail leading to the alignment change event. Being a data bit that is set at creation, and I would bet my paycheck that that datafield is set to be non-editable, well...
    Hence the general disbelief in the event until such time as credible screenies are posted and verified.
    That may be the case, but my point was that the GM's in game give you a link to a thread and it does not exist anymore, so the support on this issue is nil.
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    Oh so this can happen.

    I always chose all my chars to be chaotic good and somehow one of mine is lawful good.
    I thought it was my mistake... hmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillius View Post
    Oh so this can happen.

    I always chose all my chars to be chaotic good and somehow one of mine is lawful good.
    I thought it was my mistake... hmm...
    Did he use true chaos weapons for a while, cause thats proof to yourself at least.

    The Lawful Good alignment would have been the default unless you were a barbarian or a bard, so it is more often then not a mistake. But like I said if you used true chaos weapons and then one day you couldn't, thats your proof.
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