ftr/pally split question

[Taerdra]

Honestly I had never considered DF as a viable alternative because of the time limit. I use it on clickies on some of my other toons. If it goes up later on then I'd consider it more worthwhile. I wasn't aware it did.

It's still a valuable alternative even if it is only 1 minute. Average Paladin spell points is probably in the 200-230 range (guess, my Pally has 370 I believe).

If you can cast Resists, then you will cast say 3 of them every ~7+ minutes which means you will cast 6 within the timeframe for your spell points. That means you will have used 90 pts IIRC leaving 110-140 for DF or you will have 11 to 14 minutes of +2/+2. That's more than enough to get you through to most shrines, so essentially you have +2/+2 "all the time".

[vyvy3369]

Don't forget that you only get resists if you take 8 paladin levels. 7/7 = 1st level spells only.

8p/6f would give you resists at the loss of AM2 and the third tier of fighter's tactics. 11p/3f has always been my preference - 30 resists, all the paladin enhancements you probably care about, a third level spell, and you keep fighter AM 1, str 1 & tactics 1.

[Dexxaan]

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Bruttus Chaosbane
Level 14 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(4 Fighter \ 10 Paladin)
Hit Points: 263 - Final: 344 (W/+6 CON Necklace)
Spell Points: 174 - Final: 304 (+4 WIS Helm and Magi Club for Pre-Quest Buffing)
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 19 - Final 30
Reflex: 12 - Final 25
Will: 10 - Final - 20

Starting Feat/Enhancement Current Gear
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 14) (Level 14)
Strength 16 22 28 (+6 STR Gloves)
Dexterity 15 16 20 (Madstone Boots +4 DEX / 20% Striders)
Constitution 13 16 22 (+6 CON Necklace)
Intelligence 11 13 18 (+5 INT Helm used for rare ocassions like Wiz King panels, VON 3, etc..)
Wisdom 11 12 16 (+4 WIS Helm used + Magi Club for Pre-Quest Buffing)
Charisma 11 16 22 (+6 CHA Helm)

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 (Need to eat one of these so Skill Pts become available from L2 on)
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 13 (Gambled on getting this so Combat Expertise was available)
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 14 (1750 Favor Tome - Needed to hit STR 28))
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 14 (Just recently got this from Reaver...YEAH BABY!!)

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 14)
Balance 3 7
Bluff 1 3
Concentration 2 3
Diplomacy 1 11
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 1 3
Heal 1 1
Hide 3 3
Intimidate 1 3
Jump 4 20
Listen 1 1
Move Silently 3 -7
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 1 1
Search 1 3
Spot 1 14
Swim 3 6
Tumble 4 4
Use Magic Device 3 14


FEATS:
Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge

Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

Level 6 (Paladin)
FeatSelected) Extend Spell

Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
(Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh

Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise


ENHANCEMENTS:
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith I
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith II
Enhancement: Dwarven Giant Dodger I
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness I
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness II
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Giant Dodger II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Tower Shield Mastery I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III


Standard Gear:
Head: +6 CHA Helm
Trinket: Kardin's Eye (+5 Resistance)
Neck: +6 Con Necklace
Torso: +5 Mithral Full Plate
Arms: Chaosgarde Bracers (+2 Dodge Bonus, +2 Saves from Chaotic's and something else....)
Gloves: +6 STR Gauntlets
Ring 1: Chattering Ring - Titan Raid (+10 Spot, -10 Hide +3 Dodge Bonus (*Dodge Bonuses stack))
Ring 2: Seal of the Earth - Demon Queen Raid (Acid Resistance 10, +3 Natural Armor Bonus and Stoneskin L12 3x Day)
Boots: Madstone Boots (+4 DEX, 20% Striders, Rage x1 Day : Natural Armor Bonus 4, +4 CON, +2 STR, Melee Speed +10% or 15% I believe)
Belt: Heavy Fortification Belt
Cloak: +5 Protection Cloak


OK, now regarding undispellable AC 60.

+5 Mithral Full Plate / +5 Mithral Tower Shield / Chaosgarde Bracers / Madstone Boots / Seal of the Earth Ring / Dodge feat / DEX 20 Bonus / Dwarven Armor Mastery I & Fighter Armor Mastery I / Fighter Tower Shield Mastery I / Paladin Bulwark of Good II / Combat Expertise and that should do it.

Basically AC is 55 w/out Combat Expertise, 60 with, and 61 when Madstone Boots Kick in due to Natural Armor bonus hitting another +1. (add +6 additional vs Giants from Dwarf + Enhancements)

Also when running around.... Haste(+1) + Recitation(+2) is 63/64! (69/70 vs Giants)

Look me up if you have any questions.

[Slayer918]

A: Divine favor breaks CE... if your good at micromanagement it works... if not...

B: Madstone rage will inhibit your ability to keep DF up...

so w/ a fighter based build you get +1 to hit from GWS, a possible +1 to hit and damage if fighter STR III gets you to the next even number, and a possible +1-2 to-hit and damage from madstone since It could be very difficult to keep that on a paly based build...

So your looking at +2/+1 special for the fighter with it going up to +3-4/+2-3 w/ madstone

So its pretty even... if not sometimes better than a +2 fivine favor...