the next level of enhancements

[MysticTheurge]

What if you've taken bard?

Then you've got to get one of those other things in the list.

[Suzaku]

No order of the bow or peerless archer ; ;.

[Borror0]

Then you've got to get one of those other things in the list.

Isn't one of the normal prerequiste Arcane caster?

If so, being a bard should be enough..

[MysticTheurge]

Isn't one of the normal prerequiste Arcane caster?

If so, being a bard should be enough..

Yeah, but DDO works differently, especially when it comes to prereqs for these enhancements.

I mean, you shouldn't, as someone's pointed out in another thread, even have to be a ranger to become an Arcane Archer, so... the prerequisites are obviously going to be a bit different.

[Borror0]

I mean, you shouldn't, as someone's pointed out in another thread, even have to be a ranger to become an Arcane Archer, so... the prerequisites are obviously going to be a bit different.

Good point.

[Mad_Bombardier]

I'm going to guess that "Magical Training" is on the list of "one of the following..." prerequisites.

Woot for my 12Ranger/1Cleric! The Extend-a-buff door closes, and enhancement/PrC door opens.

[Turial]

Interesting stuff. Can't wait to see the stats for the enhancements.

[Cowdenicus]

BLEH

Arcane archer goes in (and who was saying something about it being too hard to code in my PrC thread the other day) and still no Mystic Theurge.

I am going to go cry.

[Spectralist]

Arcane archer goes in (and who was saying something about it being too hard to code in my PrC thread the other day) and still no Mystic Theurge.

If it makes you feel any better it probably wont be much like a full arcane archer.

[MysticTheurge]

Arcane archer goes in (and who was saying something about it being too hard to code in my PrC thread the other day) and still no Mystic Theurge.

The PrC-as-enhancement system lends itself far better to PrCs that focus on a single character archetype.

As the prototypical multiclass PrC Mystic Theurge (and similarly Eldritch Knight) would be a bit harder to implement.

[ErgonomicCat]

Masters of the Wild.

It's 3.0, not 3.5, but mostly seems to be fairly straight-forward-ly update-able.

And technically, anything 3.0 that hasn't been updated to 3.5 is still usable.

That leads to some horribleness, though.

But still, that's a nice list of PrCs, *especially* making Arcane Archer a ranger focus. Honestly, the AA is a very cool sounding class that makes you sad you took it at level 10. About the only thing really spiffy about it is the ability to apply self only buffs to party members, and to apply self-only AoEs (primarily Anti-Magic Field) to locations or enemies....

But as an archer tree alone, it would be pretty nifty, especially given the relative lack of stuff that makes the AA largely irrelevant in PnP.

[Taerdra]

Sounds interesting especially if they add Zen Archery too. Personally, I would rather have 1 bow, 1 melee, and 1 FE focused PrC-type enhancements. 2 bows seems like a waste especially when you're talking about being limited to 3 enhancements.

[Kurlore]

so if you taken bard your more likely to rock the boat

[Aeneas]

don't rock the boat, baby..

[MysticTheurge]

don't rock the boat, baby..

Don't tip the boat over.

[muffinlad]

Someone alert the The Hues Corporation........

I think these will be welcome additions to the ranger set. I would love to see these "functional equivelents" to PrCs added for other classes as well.

muffin-sailing-with-a-cargo-of-love-and-devotion.

[Claver]

Griphon's correct - there won't be a racial restriction on Arcane Archer, but it's likely that Elves will have a racial enhancement among the "...and one of the following..." prerequisites.

Please allow me to make a request for some flexibility with the Arcane Archer prerequisites.

My main character is fashioned as an Arcane Archer of my own creation

She has 11 levels as a Sorcerer and 1 level as a Ranger

Her Feats are Point Blank, Rapid Shot and Precision (her next feat will be multi-shot) and she has a base Dex of 17 and she is an Elf.

I’ve taken spells in line with an Arcane Archer… Flame Arrow, Melf Acid Arrow, Magic Missile, Force Missile, Niacs Ray

My request is that you don’t limit the Enhancement to only high level Rangers. Please consider making the enhancement also accessible to Elves with the appropriate prerequisites (high dex, precision, rapid shot, etc.) that demonstrate a commitment to archery but who may not be higher level Rangers.

I know I am only one player but there may be others who made magic use as there primary class that operate in the spirit of an Arcane Archer

[Paladin20]

Seeing that Prestige Classes are being tossed in as part of the enhancement line, does that pretty much kill the chance altogether that they are going to be implemented as actual character levels that you take that have special prerequisites?

[MysticTheurge]

Seeing that Prestige Classes are being tossed in as part of the enhancement line, does that pretty much kill the chance altogether that they are going to be implemented as actual character levels that you take that have special prerequisites?

Never give up! Never surrender!

[Paladin20]

Never give up! Never surrender!

Lol, there really is nothing I would love to see more besides Epic Levels than Prestige classes, but still, doesn't it seem that way?