And you wonder why you can't find clerics

[hecate355]

Clerics are not expensive, its your willingness to invest big time money to attempt things that are not of your/your group level/skill

If it gets expensiv you arent picky enough in your groupings and/or you are willing to 'pay off' your exp from completing quest with help of serious ammount of wands/scrolls to get completion regardless of obvious lacking in party

I had no problems making money as cleric, i still carry usual stack of 100 heal scrolls, but if those are too expensive you are doing something wrong. Real expenses for me came from tweaking char, buying best possible equipment, thats how i play the game

[FluffyCalico]

buying best possible equipment, thats how i play the game

Aside from 1-2 items the best gear in the game can't be bought...

[ariel7]

BAH! Humbug!

A good cleric knows that sometimes you take the soul stone and drop it in the lava!

Lol. I am ashamed at the amount of joy I've had doing that in a couple of cases.

[hecate355]

Aside from 1-2 items the best gear in the game can't be bought...

sure you can, i didnt mean best possible equipment at endgame gapped 20, kept updating my potency, mana hp items, aswell ac bracers that stubbornly refuse to drop. Plus weapons, as im monkster cleric, i shopped some cool handwraps that would never have appeared on my class based rewards.

[Uamhas]

My main is a cleric. She and my capped casters makes me my money.

[joneb1999]

Right now my cleric uses cure serious wands (and all the remove " " wands) and heal scrolls but I still can make money. The reason I go through them is sometimes because of a party that doesnt try to help themselves but also because I have set my toon up so that he can be a great caster and good at melee so I often want to use my spells for bbs, personal buffs such as devine favour and devine power and other offensive stuff. If a party takes me on for being a healer I feel if I use my sp for other stuff I should be able to still heal. My barb can be as expensive as my cleric as often I need to hand out heal scrolls because he is a meat tank and self harms when attacking. Then my rogue buys wands too.

[Iambeastx]

Didin't this thread start in 07' ??

[hecate355]

rofl, seems it did indeed

[jcTharin]

I made a Cleric a few weeks ago and I feel the same way. I have yet to get into a PuG with my cleric due to what I have seen in groups. It's a guild only alt for now unless I can hoard a ton of cash. Of course I would hold off on giving any money or wands to Clerics until into the quest. Made the mistake of giving a wand at the beginning and then the group disbanded before even entering the quest.

i have done that

[GhoulsTouch]

I am having a hard time understanding why you went through so many resources, especially in Delera's. I have pugged the whole chain on elite levels 5-8 without any type of divine caster before.

[Aerendil]

I am having a hard time understanding why you went through so many resources, especially in Delera's. I have pugged the whole chain on elite levels 5-8 without any type of divine caster before.

You'd be surprised just how much healing resources are required on an unprepared/inefficient group.

Take a group of newer players who haven't any PG weaponry (let's say 1 or 2 out of 6 have PG weapons); stop to kill every archer; have AC in the 15-25 range; no heal or cure potions; haven't taken toughness nor do they have any false life items, so their HPs are in the 100ish range (or less); are still using light fortification items; and are blissfully unaware of what wands they would be able to use to help out (yes, I'm looking at you, Rangers and Paladins).

vs.

A group of vets who have their characters kitted out; melee with AC in the 30-35 range; have stacks of heal potions and cure ___ potions; carry back-up heal wands for helping out during downtime; have moderate/heavy fort items and toughness+false life; have holy of PG maces/other weaponry; and know when to zerg areas vs. fight everything.

The difference is MASSIVE from a healer's perspective.

[Kaldaka]

Didin't this thread start in 07' ??

[Iambeastx]

Expected response though sooner than expected

[JayDubya]

/drops this thread's soulstone into deep lava.

And stay dead!

;-)

[Asketes]

/drops this thread's soulstone into deep lava.

And stay dead!

;-)

I think you are confusing this thread with Hordo.

[Ancient]

When my melee FVS joins a pug I immediately tell them about some important spell I don't have and offer to drop if it is an issue. If I'm worried about the group, I manage to comment about how sometimes I get lost in hack and slash bloodlust and forget to heal. I then identify any intelligent zergers (players that rush towards the right target) and try to keep up with them both in position and kill count.

I've found that if you can convince the group that you are a bad healer, they tend to be a heck of a lot more careful. You don't have to actually BE a bad healer, just let a problem player get low a few times (or die if they were truly stupid). For many bad players, that last 20% of their life seems to last a lot longer than the first 80%, and if it doesn't then I know they truly have no idea how to stay alive and that is very useful information. Another benefit of being a bad healer is no expects you to blow supplies. (Good thing, I'm still pretty new to the game and I generally don't have much in reserve).

For some reason, it's a lot harder to fool the good players... and that works out just fine. In the end, I'm having fun, leveling fast and making friends.

If you are losing money trying to level a healer, consider being a poor healer

[joneb1999]

/drops this thread's soulstone into deep lava.

And stay dead!

;-)

Seriously though the threads age is not the point. The fact is the subject is still topical and its better to res an old thread on a topical subject that people can scan through and possibly add something new then start the whole topic again as if it was new. Unfortunately it doesnt stop people going over the exact same ground again as many just refuse to read any post gone before. Still the topic whether in a new thread or an old thread is the same topic.

[bellatrixx]

My one capped character is a cleric - usually he comes out by guild request only. It's not the expense that causes that (I burn heal scrolls if I'm watching my SP, otherwise I am not hitting my wands or scrolls that hard).

What keeps me away is the double-standard in most PUGs where some bozo is yelling at me because I'm not healing some zerging barb that is far out of my sight. No thanks. I don't need the neurosis.

HAHAHA, I feel the same way! Oh, and add to that, I'm a girl. I have been in groups where a guy has actually said, "Well, she did alright, even though she's a girl" and it wasn't a joke! Geez Man! Really?

[Ministry]

HAHAHA, I feel the same way! Oh, and add to that, I'm a girl. I have been in groups where a guy has actually said, "Well, she did alright, even though she's a girl" and it wasn't a joke! Geez Man! Really?

Well, coming from a guild where we have 4 girls in it who are elite players, I get to hear the opposite... "Decent healing Min... for a guy".



But, as Moorewr stated, it's just not worth it healing non guild runs, unless it's with a guild you know well for being as skilled and cognizant as your own guild. I think I've healed 3 or 4 pug raids in the last couple of years and it has always cost me pots.

[ValenGodspeed]

I don't really know what the fuss is about, I pugged my healer from 4 to 20 and actually had a great time doing that, and my healer of course makes a profit as any healer should by the time they get blade barrier

Must say that I have met a lot of different people in the process, all from the very gimped builds that would never make it to end game and clueless players to the new fella that was eager to learn what DDO was about and had a friendly approach (even played with a guy that was fairly drunk and sung a little tune about boobies and beer over and over ^^), and we always managed to pull through.
Personally (and I may just have been lucky) I have not spend an amount of ressources doing this that I find unreasonable, of course there have been the odd run that cost a pot or 2 but nothing more than a healer would expect. So even if theres a lot of you fellas that only bring out your healers for guild runs, heres the good news for all you new guys and puggers - Ill be true ressing in a few months when I get the last bits of equipment I need, cya in lowbieland by then