Lifetime Subscription?

[ErgonomicCat]

Only one DOOOOOOM post so far!

I'd like one.

I'd like to say I'd get it.

But I can't even get a 3 or 6 month sub.

Still, it would be a nice option.

[MrCow]

If the option was there, I would get a lifetime subscription.

[Mad_Bombardier]

If the option was there, I would get a lifetime subscription.

Except that I've already spent money for 1 year of subscription. So, if the Lifetime was more than 1 more year, I probably wouldn't buy it. It's not that I'm only going to be here 1 more year, but getting more of my money up front should be worth something.

[Zenako]

For all those saying they would pony up for a lifetime subscription. Would you do it for $200. Probably, most of us can see at least another year of this game and the bet is bit more than that.

How about $350 for a sub? That is going on two years of normal rates and to come out ahead you need to figure the game is gonna keep your interest (and still be going) for more than two years?

What about $500. My bet is very few if anyone would bet on more than 3 years of keeping you hooked as it stands.

Lifetime subs make sense to hook a critical mass or to get initial operating capital. My dad still recalls how he passed up a Lifetime sub on a certain Mens magazine back in the 50's. He thought it would never last. That offer was a limited time one, and soon thereafter was never needed again.

[Mizyrlou]

Well, figuring in that should Epic levels come, that would probably be more suited for a DDO2 (just thinking how different the spectrum is with levels and abilities, and if we can transfer our characters from here to there, then I'd be interested in that), that still leaves quite a bit still up for DDO and at the rate I play, I would be greatly interested in a Lifetime sub.

Even with the current options available for characters, that leaves much to still try out with different races/builds/classes and I do greatly enjoy the game to keep on playing until the servers power down for the last time.

[Ron]

I would certainly get one.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Don't be fooled ladies and gentleman.

Turbine offered the lifetime membership for:

1) quick influx of revenue
2) to lock in disgruntled WoW players
3) capitalize on LotR fame, and the LotRO Introduction campaign.

Since they don't need a huge influx of cash, no MMOs that DDO is competing directly with, and no decent D&D game to piggyback on, there will not be any offers for lifetime memberships.

Turbine would much rather get our monthly $12-$15.

/signed

[Mad_Bombardier]

For all those saying they would pony up for a lifetime subscription. Would you do it for $200. Probably, most of us can see at least another year of this game and the bet is bit more than that.

How about $350 for a sub? That is going on two years of normal rates and to come out ahead you need to figure the game is gonna keep your interest (and still be going) for more than two years?

What about $500. My bet is very few if anyone would bet on more than 3 years of keeping you hooked as it stands.

Lifetime subs make sense to hook a critical mass or to get initial operating capital. My dad still recalls how he passed up a Lifetime sub on a certain Mens magazine back in the 50's. He thought it would never last. That offer was a limited time one, and soon thereafter was never needed again.

Man, Turbine would have no recurring income if they had offered lifetime to all the beta/pre-release Founders for $200. As you said, that was a marketing scheme to generate interest in LotRO as a WoW competitor.

At this point in the game, after paying for 1 year in the game, I'd pay $150-200 for an upgrade to Lifetime. But, I wouldn't shell out $250 in addition to everything I've paid.

[Alavatar]

Well, figuring in that should Epic levels come, that would probably be more suited for a DDO2 (just thinking how different the spectrum is with levels and abilities, and if we can transfer our characters from here to there, then I'd be interested in that), that still leaves quite a bit still up for DDO and at the rate I play, I would be greatly interested in a Lifetime sub.

Even with the current options available for characters, that leaves much to still try out with different races/builds/classes and I do greatly enjoy the game to keep on playing until the servers power down for the last time.

I think DDO2 (if it ever happens) will be under 4th edition rules. I haven't heard of an MMO that allows character transfers between sequels ...

I would definately support a $200-$250 lifetime membership. More then that would be too cost inefficient for the playerbase, IMO.

[Drider]

I think DDO2 (if it ever happens) will be under 4th edition rules. I haven't heard of an MMO that allows character transfers between sequels ...

I would definately support a $200-$250 lifetime membership. More then that would be too cost inefficient for the playerbase, IMO.

The couple of games that have this have been 200 or lower.

And I'd definitely take them up on the offer.

[ErgonomicCat]

I think DDO2 (if it ever happens) will be under 4th edition rules. I haven't heard of an MMO that allows character transfers between sequels ...

Sometimes you get stuff unlocked in the sequel based on your chars in the original, though.... I wanna say AC2 did that?

[tekn0mage]

I think DDO2 (if it ever happens) will be under 4th edition rules. I haven't heard of an MMO that allows character transfers between sequels ...

Guild wars 2 does.

[MysticTheurge]

Guild wars 2 does.

Guild Wars 2 will not allow you to transfer characters from Guild Wars.

[Raithe]

I see a lot of people saying they would pay $200 or slightly more for a lifetime subscription of DDO. I would love to be around the forums for the wailing banshee of posts that would appear when the lifers hit the content brick wall...

on second thought, maybe I wouldnt.

[Alavatar]

I see a lot of people saying they would pay $200 or slightly more for a lifetime subscription of DDO. I would love to be around the forums for the wailing banshee of posts that would appear when the lifers hit the content brick wall...

on second thought, maybe I wouldnt.

At the "content brick wall" I would take a break. I wouldn't pay anymore so why would I care? I could leave and come back whenever I felt like it without fear of "wasting money" by not playing those last few days of my subscription or having to pay more when I came back. I could have several MMO subscriptions that way as well.

Win/Win situation to me.

[Raithe]

At the "content brick wall" I would take a break. I wouldn't pay anymore so why would I care?

A very genteel reply. I suspect you would not be part of the wailing banshee.

From my experience, however, many people get downright crotchety when they don't think they are getting their money's worth. Let's not forget that there is virtually nothing to spend your time at if you have completed every quest a certain number of times.

Those crotchety people seem to get worse when they actually want to be playing something, as well.

[Thame]

Don't be fooled ladies and gentleman.

Turbine offered the lifetime membership for:

1) quick influx of revenue
2) to lock in disgruntled WoW players
3) capitalize on LotR fame, and the LotRO Introduction campaign.

Since they don't need a huge influx of cash, no MMOs that DDO is competing directly with, and no decent D&D game to piggyback on, there will not be any offers for lifetime memberships.

Turbine would much rather get our monthly $12-$15.

Your right there. Guys, this games going nowhere, and 3/4 of the population will be gone in before the next update, why buy the subscription?

[Fritzel]

I'd get one as well, I'm already a Lifetime Lotro player, as well as Hellgate london. The main reason I want it is because I get bored easily and don't always have money on hand when I get bored, I'd pay 200-300$ for a lifetime on DDO, under the assumption that it'd be around for 3+ years

[GreatCzarsGhost]

Since they don't need a huge influx of cash, no MMOs that DDO is competing directly with, and no decent D&D game to piggyback on, there will not be any offers for lifetime memberships.

DDO competes with Guild Wars which is basically DDO with different graphics, no subscription fee, and a bazillion more players. Guild Wars is huge and free to play although you do have to drop $20 for an expansion pack every once in a while.

Later this year DDO will get more competition from Wizards Of The Coast when they release D&D 4.0 which will include a online based virtual table top version of traditional D&D. If you don't think this has a chance of pulling players from DDO just ask some of your guild mates and group members if they have ever played Pen and Paper D&D. There is a large part of us players to whom DDO is the only MMO they have ever played and are playing because they can't find D&D games where they live. D&D 4.0 virtual table top could pull a lot of these players away from DDO.

Add to this the fact that DDO has by far the largest group of players who activate accounts when a new mod with a level increase comes out and plays for a month or two only to close their accounts for months after reaching the level cap. In between these increases in server populations servers can start to feel empty even after the merge. This has got to frustrate Turbine to no end.

I think if Turbine can get $300+ from players for lifetime subscriptions for a game that has been slowly bleeding off players since it came out and could very well not even be open in a few years they should do it.

[MysticTheurge]

Later this year DDO will get more competition from Wizards Of The Coast when they release D&D 4.0 which will include a online based virtual table top version of traditional D&D. If you don't think this has a chance of pulling players from DDO just ask some of your guild mates and group members if they have ever played Pen and Paper D&D. There is a large part of us players to whom DDO is the only MMO they have ever played and are playing because they can't find D&D games where they live. D&D 4.0 virtual table top could pull a lot of these players away from DDO.

I don't get this. People act like this is some revolution in online gaming, but the fact of the matter is you can currently play regular old D&D over the internet. If you have the friends to do it and someone will DM.

Wizards' product isn't going to magically create a online tabletop community that will rival DDO.