Most of DDO Dead? (Not a 'Doom' Post. Kind of a survey.)

[Azoralq]

But it could easily turn into a 'doom' post, with the responses. I'm just wondering what everyone else thinks.

With the recient Mod 5 implement, every instance but Necropolis is a ghost town. Even the Marketplace is considerly empty. I personally don't think it was this bad in gianthold, but who knows, could very well be.

The questions is. Do you really think it wil return to normal? Or is Gianthold, and virutally all other quests a forgotten memory?

I ask because it takes me two hours to actually form a Non-necropolis party, no matter the quest. People will not do Prison of the Planes on elite anymore on Kyber.

Granted, it is still early, but given the farming needed in Necropolis, (more so than gianthold. Gianthold was just relics, Necropolis is a plethoria of stuff.) the new content, and generally just the sheer time sink of it all...is the rest of DDO going to be harder to gather a party to explore?

I personally miss Gianthold.

[Vinos]

Ask this question in a month. Most people are playing the new stuff right now and as a result the other zones are being ignored.

[Ron]

Aye, just before Mod 5 came out I noticed one evening there were two instances of both the harbor and the marketplace. Haven't noticed that since the Mod came out, but I'm sure it will come back again.

[MysticTheurge]

So far, in my fairly limited playing time my quests have been:

Day 1: Prison of the Planes.
Day 2: Prison of the Planes x7 as we farmed for Kardin's eye.
Day 3: Last half of Feast or Famine. A Cabal for One.
Day 4: Tomb of the Shadow Knight. Tomb of the Shadow Lord.
Day 5: Prison of the Planes.

All groups were acquired through the LFM system and were full within minutes of my joining. In addition, I've seen two LFMs for the Reaver pre-raid (on two different days), a Tempest Spine group, a Crucible group and a whole heck of a lot of groups looking for members lower than 14th.

[CSFurious]

i believe your post plus another i remember from a Khyber player (he stated that over 75% of the players on the WHO list were 14 one night) demonstrates that most players are capped on at least one toon

therefore, i hope mod 6 knocks our socks off, & raises the level cap to at least 18 or this game is in more trouble than it already is currently with the 3 month wait for new content

after awhile, when you are capped, you tire of looting, you do not want to create any more builds & run tangleroot again (although, the first time in that quest was awesome like most of this game)

[Kalanth]

So far, in my fairly limited playing time my quests have been:

Day 1: Prison of the Planes.
Day 2: Prison of the Planes x7 as we farmed for Kardin's eye.
Day 3: Last half of Feast or Famine. A Cabal for One.
Day 4: Tomb of the Shadow Knight. Tomb of the Shadow Lord.
Day 5: Prison of the Planes.

This is a good one, gonna see if I can remember my last 5 days.


Day 1: Desecrated Temple of Vol, WW, STK, Tangleroot Part 4 through completion, Reaver Raid
Day 2: Tomb of the Shadow Knight, Desecrated Temple of Vol
Day 3: VoN 1 - 4, STK
Day 4: Desecrated Temple of Vol, Gianthold Tor
Day 5: Reaver Raid, Von 5-6, Inferno of the Damned, Desecrated Temple of Vol

Yeah, I know, I like the Temple of Vol to much. It's easy, almost lvl 1 easy, and I like the loot I get out of there. I need to give it a rest so I am not ransacked any more.

Unless I am raiding or playing a lowbie, I am 90% in the new area (unless I need to sell things and I am willing to make that special trip to House D and House K). Hey, it is all new stuff and the rest of DDO is old stuff. I want to experience the new stuff.

[Shaamis]

The way loot is being handed out in Necropolis, you might see a return to GH as the glitz of the new area begins to fade. I have heard rumblings of it already.

Personally, once I cherry-pick all of the loot I want from Necropolis, including favor, I will NEVER go back.

[Vinos]

besides everyone needs to ransack temple of Vol as much as possible before it's "fixed"

[ArkoHighStar]

i believe your post plus another i remember from a Khyber player (he stated that over 75% of the players on the WHO list were 14 one night) demonstrates that most players are capped on at least one toon

therefore, i hope mod 6 knocks our socks off, & raises the level cap to at least 18 or this game is in more trouble than it already is currently with the 3 month wait for new content

after awhile, when you are capped, you tire of looting, you do not want to create any more builds & run tangleroot again (although, the first time in that quest was awesome like most of this game)

lvl cap is being raised to 16

[Yukiko]

Look at the old temple of vol in house P
I remember it being a loot run hot spot.
Times change

Ive been doing some of the new necro content but giant hold has a place in my heart

And who wants fight undead all the time :P
1 month, and everything will balance out again

[Vi'Aed]

Interestingly I've been seeing a significant upsurge in lowbie quests on Kyber as of late. Generally there are between 3-8 LFMs up and 60% generally seem to *NOT* be the 11-14 variety.

Not that they are interesting (WW, TR, STK, SC, etc) but folks are doing other stuff as well.

That said, of the 11-14 range stuff, 80% of that is generally in the Orchard or, maybe, the new tombs.

[Pfamily]

Was in GH last night. There were 2 instances so some people must be coming back...prob to burn-off death XP!

Last 5 days were:
GH
Orchard tap runs, Vol
lowbie quests w/ friends
Orchard tap runs, Vol
mid-level quests w/ friends

Also noted quite a few Trial/MoM and Cabal/Feast runs in the LFMs.

[Twerpp]

But it could easily turn into a 'doom' post, with the responses. I'm just wondering what everyone else thinks.

With the recient Mod 5 implement, every instance but Necropolis is a ghost town. Even the Marketplace is considerly empty. I personally don't think it was this bad in gianthold, but who knows, could very well be.

The questions is. Do you really think it wil return to normal? Or is Gianthold, and virutally all other quests a forgotten memory?

I ask because it takes me two hours to actually form a Non-necropolis party, no matter the quest. People will not do Prison of the Planes on elite anymore on Kyber.

Granted, it is still early, but given the farming needed in Necropolis, (more so than gianthold. Gianthold was just relics, Necropolis is a plethoria of stuff.) the new content, and generally just the sheer time sink of it all...is the rest of DDO going to be harder to gather a party to explore?

I personally miss Gianthold.

Dude we are sick of Elf relics, PoP Orbs, Blue Scales, Red Hearts, Yellow Stars, and Green Clovers.

Give it a month or two and we will be sick of tome pieces, shield pieces, sigil pieces, tapestries and so on and so forth.

[Magehound]

I would have to agree with everybody here in that it is because we are all starved for new content. I mean when you have spent as much time in gianthold as all capped alts are you will start looking for new stuff. This is exactly what happened to the desert when gianthold came out, and it went back after awhile there too.

So I don't see any log term problems expect that people are getting tired of long waits for new content, it was a new content coming out every month or so. I understand tha these ares that are coming out are alot bigger than the previous releases but it does seem like a long time beteween them. Also alot of people were complaing that the release of level 6 or 8 quest is not what was needed but no matter what is released people will complain. I plan on staying around because I'm still having fun. I dropped stars wars after 2 years because I was so bored with it, so I will leave if I'm not having fun.

[CSFurious]

at this rate, we are looking at 2009 for level 20 then, good luck with that one

last one here, please turn out the lights

lvl cap is being raised to 16

[Riddikulus]

Interestingly I've been seeing a significant upsurge in lowbie quests on Kyber as of late. Generally there are between 3-8 LFMs up and 60% generally seem to *NOT* be the 11-14 variety.

Not that they are interesting (WW, TR, STK, SC, etc) but folks are doing other stuff as well.

That said, of the 11-14 range stuff, 80% of that is generally in the Orchard or, maybe, the new tombs.

I've noticed that too, and have been participating in it.

I just don't have much desire to run Orchard stuff right now. Undead + capped characters = boring.

Had some fun doing all of the lowbie house K favor... without a cleric. Now that's entertainment.

[Vi'Aed]

I've noticed that too, and have been participating in it.

I just don't have much desire to run Orchard stuff right now. Undead + capped characters = boring.

Had some fun doing all of the lowbie house K favor... without a cleric. Now that's entertainment.

Yeah... I like the Orchard just fine, but something about it doesn't lend itself to running over and over.

[Drider]

besides everyone needs to ransack temple of Vol as much as possible before it's "fixed"

Umm it's easy.. yes. I still get better loot out of PoP then I have out of Vol.

[muffinlad]

In my opinion-

The Orchard has-

A) A new zone to explore
B) Bad guys with tokens for named items as random encounters (unlike GH's random encounters which give you crappy chests with crappy loot)
C) Some fun new encounter types for an Encounter Area < Defend a COMPETENT NPC, Rat Swarm, Wagons>
D) Some fun new adventures.
E) Tokens for cool items are easier to get than (hard as heck to get) Scales, and the items are generally as good.
F)GH's EXP has been lessened (esp for PoP) favor nuked, etc.

GH has -

A) Better/funner monsters to fight
B) No binding on all of the pre-trade items
C) Clearer no, or low fight pathways to the missions with better shrines.
D) PoP exp nuked to keep lowbies from Semi-Power leveling. Smart guilds can still run people though the tough(er) and more proffitable Crucible and Madstone.


Don't worry, eventually the devs will nuke the Orchard as well. Expect leashed Mobs in DTV any day now....but until then...burn baby burn, disco inferno, turn that mother out.

Regs,

muffinsunshineband

[LeLoric]

Umm it's easy.. yes. I still get better loot out of PoP then I have out of Vol.

I have already gotten better things in mod 5 than i have since mod 4 came out. But you know how my luck was for mod 4 hehe