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    Default How do you dissuade clerics from healing you?

    So I play a level 7 wiz WF and I often PUG as I am in a small guild. I have found it a little frustrating that the cleric is always healing me. Don't get me wrong I appreciate being healed especially in the middle of a battle but I have a 20 con and am getting the hang of managing agro. My real complaint is that before I can even pull out a wand between battles before the cleric has topped me off, it just seems like a waste of the clerics resources either spell points that could be used on those who can't wand whip themselves and don't lose 50% of the heal or a waste of the plat they spend on wands.

    I have played a cleric and I understand that it can become automatic to heal anyone who's bar goes down but it just seems like a waste for a class that always complains about not having enough plat or not getting to use those offensive spells.

    So.... how do you keep clerics from healing you?
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    I have had the same problem. I made a WF barbarian, before the immunities and enhancement change (when you could only take 4 enhancements). He took 2 levels of Sorc so he could heal himself. I start by telling Clerics that I take care of almost all my own healing, and they don't need to worry about me until I am at 1/4-incap. Then I go on to say that I don't have any healer's friend and 100% Fort. By then they usually leave me alone.

    With that said, it's never bad to have someone looking over your should, even if you do heal yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citymorg View Post
    With that said, it's never bad to have someone looking over your should, even if you do heal yourself.
    Agreed, I just feel more uber when I take care of myself. Who said warforged don't have egos.
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    As a Cleric, if I can't target you, no healing. So just stay out of range...

    Seriously, just let them know, and accept the reflexive healing that will still come your way.
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    Like the above people said communication is the key, let them know. But on the same hand if you say " don't worry about healing me I have it covered" then you die, don't get mad at your cleric.
    I have found it better to let the cleric heal you anyways, it lets them do your job and less people die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solstyse View Post
    I have found it better to let the cleric heal you anyways, it lets them do your job and less people die.
    That's the problem, though. It means they are devoting their SP (and theoretically double their SP, with your penalty to heals) to keeping you up, rather than someone else.

    SP spent is SP lost.

    But really, it sounds like it's the cleric's issue. They really shouldn't be topping you off either, unless it's a run with a lot of shrines, or you're coming to a big boss....

    I'd say you're doing what you can - tell them, maybe remind them, then be done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citymorg View Post
    I have had the same problem. I made a WF barbarian, before the immunities and enhancement change (when you could only take 4 enhancements). He took 2 levels of Sorc so he could heal himself. I start by telling Clerics that I take care of almost all my own healing, and they don't need to worry about me until I am at 1/4-incap. Then I go on to say that I don't have any healer's friend and 100% Fort. By then they usually leave me alone.

    With that said, it's never bad to have someone looking over your should, even if you do heal yourself.
    That's what I do. If the cleric doesn't heed my warning, it's his loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaselKing View Post
    So.... how do you keep clerics from healing you?

    Well you can always walk over a take a leak on his boots...

    j/k anyhow, being a cleric that occasionally heals wf, I tend to wait until I have healed everyone else before I deal with the WF so that it gives them a chance to heal themselves if they are going to instead of me healing them, but if all else fails, let them blow the sp, can't hurt right.
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    I pull all the aggro I can to their area then use diplomacy so they get it all


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    From the cleric point of view, it's all red bars. Honestly, if I have never ran with you before there is a good chance that I don't realize your wf unless I actually happen to see you between fights. Between fights on the other hand, I heal up the wf last. That way if they are self sufficient, I will see you drinking pots or using sp to reconstruct yourself and I will leave you alone. But also know this, I am a specc'd healer because my husband played a wf barbie when I started playing. I learned to cleric by following him and trying to keep his butt alive. It was not easy but he enjoyed it to no end to see how much **** he could pull before I went ballistic. It's the same with the quests. I could not lead you through many of the quests out there above lvl 12. I don't see the quest, I see bars. When I get to an area and the sorc/wiz start setting up cc, then I know where I am b/c I remember fire prot here, curse remove ready, or symbol pain at this door. It's a completely different game when playing a cleric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaselKing View Post
    So I play a level 7 wiz WF and I often PUG as I am in a small guild. I have found it a little frustrating that the cleric is always healing me. Don't get me wrong I appreciate being healed especially in the middle of a battle but I have a 20 con and am getting the hang of managing agro. My real complaint is that before I can even pull out a wand between battles before the cleric has topped me off, it just seems like a waste of the clerics resources either spell points that could be used on those who can't wand whip themselves and don't lose 50% of the heal or a waste of the plat they spend on wands.

    I have played a cleric and I understand that it can become automatic to heal anyone who's bar goes down but it just seems like a waste for a class that always complains about not having enough plat or not getting to use those offensive spells.

    So.... how do you keep clerics from healing you?
    Tell them you havethe feat that not allows for healing, even if you don't. Then again, you will not have top offs mid fight.

    The simplest thing to tell you is we like to heal, we like full red bars andwe do not discriminate by race. Be thankful you have a cleric that heals you. THere are ones that refuse to even touch WF. I tend not to heal a WF caster, but sometimes I do forget (especially in a raid) who is what and what race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaselKing View Post
    So.... how do you keep clerics from healing you?
    by not getting hurt!
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