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    So if the best _current_ guide is written by a non US resident or someone under 18 they will not get a prize, nor will their guide be used?

    (and an inferior guide will be used instead?)
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    All I can say is "Bah" and "Good luck, Dragon.Star".

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    congrats to the 10 people who will participate in this contest, your all winners in my eyes.
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    Cool This Is Cool

    I hope this will make player based quest possible if a player can make a guilde A player can make a quest. As for U.S. players only that is straight B.S. half of my server is not american but they know this game well or better than most american players.They have a voice and have the right to be heard. This is not a american game this is a world wide game. We are not americans we are proud kyberians step into are world and leave your country behind meet the world and have a great time welcome to DDO all players welcome and all players Equal regardess of naitionlity.
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    Hmm...I was working on some real cool 'new user' guides along with a dungeon guide....but turbine never once answered my mails for the information I needed to make them encoomapssing enough to be helpfull...


    Does this mean if we ask for some information you may provide it or at least answer emails? I just wanted to help, I could not believe you would not give me the little info I needed..so I put it on the burner.

    I would finish them if you have changed your mind about helping us help your customers....that would be great...send me a tell or something so I can ask for the info for the millionth time....
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    This is just a half-baked attempt to get good ideas to improve the game before Conan comes out. It is too late for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorth View Post
    This is just a half-baked attempt to get good ideas to improve the game before Conan comes out. It is too late for that.

    That doesn't even make sense.

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    They come up with an idea to encourage people to share there information of there game to improve people knowledge of the game. Even offering some decent prize’s for the best of them.

    The response is that 90% of the posts in this thread are a complaint about it? Absolutely amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgoldb2 View Post
    They come up with an idea to encourage people to share there information of there game to improve people knowledge of the game. Even offering some decent prize’s for the best of them.

    The response is that 90% of the posts in this thread are a complaint about it? Absolutely amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWizard View Post
    Hmm...I was working on some real cool 'new user' guides along with a dungeon guide....but turbine never once answered my mails for the information I needed to make them encoomapssing enough to be helpfull...


    Does this mean if we ask for some information you may provide it or at least answer emails? I just wanted to help, I could not believe you would not give me the little info I needed..so I put it on the burner.

    I would finish them if you have changed your mind about helping us help your customers....that would be great...send me a tell or something so I can ask for the info for the millionth time....
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    They are very unhelpful on that. There are lot of things they were asked for by wiki editors, and we rarely got answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien the First One View Post
    Hmm... who wins the prize for that indeed... Cat who has been maintaining it as long as I've been following it or the new guy who just took it over (and thank you for taking over this important thread BTW)

    Ya this contest just cost Turbine one of its defenders
    Yeah.. but is it really a guide? Normally a guide tells you how to accomplish something. The loot thread is really a compilation of drops, what they are, where to find it, and whom to kill. It states very little of any "how" to do something. Don't get me wrong, I love the thread myself. It is great for information on what and where, but next to no how.

    Me, I plan on trying my hands on it for the one thing I wouldn't mind getting. I'm not worried about the physical prizes, game time, or what have you. I'd rather get my hands on the forum title. Yeah, I'm simple like that, and a forum title is something that can be given to any player that posts on these boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgoldb2 View Post
    They come up with an idea to encourage people to share there information of there game to improve people knowledge of the game. Even offering some decent prize’s for the best of them.

    The response is that 90% of the posts in this thread are a complaint about it? Absolutely amazing.
    The issue is since the best guides are already written(for the most part) why have a "contest" for it? It's not encouraging anyone to share knowledge. Those people have ALREADY shared the knowledge. And Turbine has also not clairified what they plan to do about the guides that multiple people have contributed to.

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    My guess in all this serves several purposes.

    1. In the end Turbine gets a fair amount of work for "free" (granted prizes are given but they cost far less than paying an employee to do them).

    2. Subscribers get to participate directly to the game with direct acknowledgement from Turbine.

    3. As with #1, one thing that has been lacking with DDO and the website is a useful and up to date game manual. This contest can help facilitate that at a very minimal cost to Turbine as well as a minimal time investment on their part. The game manual has been wrong and out of date for a long time.

    To me #3 is probably one of the main underlying purposes for the contest, because of the contract the winners must sign. This contract can only be legally bound to by US residents, which is probably why the contest is limited to the US. They are not going to fork out the high costs for international lawyers to right binding contracts in all available countries. The rules pretty well state their intent is to take possession of any guide entries that win, and they cannot legally do so from people in other countries without outside legal help and costs, which could quickly cost more than for Turbine to just do it themselves. All in all it saves Turbine time and money to do this and gives subscribers an incentive to particiapte..it's good all around, although limited to who can truely benefit from competing, but the overall benefit of the situation helps everyone, including those not participating or who cannot participate.

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    Default I just Thank God...

    that not everyone takes the position of what we have is already the best so why bother... or nothing would ever be invented or improved upon in the world. I am not saying that the current guides aren't great, they are awesome, but you never know what someone else may come up with...

    If people want to enter let them .. if an existing guide is the best then it should win.. the worst that happens is the the new players get some added guides to help them along and they may enjoy the game more...

    The complaining that goes on in these forums is astounding. Before I get flamed for this I bow to your forum superiority so don't bother.. I seldom make multiple posts in any thread and feel it is completely pointless to repost or argue my opinion...

    The game is not perfect, Turbine is not perfect, but they are damned if they do and damned if they don't... not a job I'd want.

    Enjoy the game for what it is... works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnerD View Post
    I seldom make multiple posts in any thread and feel it is completely pointless to repost or argue my opinion....
    lol Sometimes I wish I had your strength....

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    Red face Wow, this hurts.

    We can't even get together to give away prizes.
    I wish everyone could compete. I tell you what, since I have neither the time nor the motivation to try and out-do some of the indepth(sp?) work that people have already contributed to this fine fun game. Everyone still submit their stuff, and if you win you allow them to send me the prizes and I will pay out of my own pocket to get you the stuff! What 30-50$ to mail the couple books (hopefully less!)??
    I hate to see the get vindictive.
    Can't we all just get along??!?

    P.S. It is kinda top heavy this contest, some people have a HUGE leg up on others, some have put in a LOT of time and effort with less recognition from anyone, execept maybe for a few of us forum goers saying great job, keep up the good work, etc...

    You would think they could have better thought out the contest.
    Although, I am incredibly happy to see them reaching out in this way to us the community.
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    yeah, while we all think it's great that turbine encourages us to write guides, the euphoria is kept well in check.

    good guides already exist (NO THANKS TO TURBINE) and instead of comming up with something clever like ingame rewards for those that are not legally eligible for a material reward.

    You did contests before and handed out stuff without asking our nationality.


    If you actually gave a ****, you would offer something like a custom item, either powerful or unique looks as a reward. Perhaps a spell that has a different graphic to it... (wall of fire with blue fire?) SOMETHING!!
    It's not that complicated...



    But noooo like Lorien said... just lazy..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    Is the wiki a big guide? If so, tihocan... you're getting the prize it may get... I'm canadian anyway.
    Yeah, I vote you tar/zip the wiki and mail it in. Best game guide out there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by akla thornfist View Post
    congrats to the 10 people who will participate in this contest, your all winners in my eyes.
    LOL

    This contest is a step in the right direction, but it's more of a shuffle than a step.

    Turbine needs to engage the ENTIRE DDO community, not just those who are predisopsed to a fringe activity such as writing guides.

    I'm sorry, but this will be a non-event for most all of the DDO community as far as participation goes.

    Yes, the guides will be useful to us all (and future new players), but this will not do anything to prevent bored players from leaving. That is the kind of activities we need.

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