Legion school!

[loki523]

Ok, I don't mean to toot my own horn here (flame away if you wish) but I'm pretty **** good at DDO. I know every quest in the game backwards and forwards, I design killer min/max builds, and I can twitch-play with the best of them.

For those who don't know me, I'm the leader of Legion. Legion is an elite guild. Membership is obtained by invite only and we don't even consider people unless they have proven themselves to be well above average players.

Trouble is, we are TERRIBLE at training people. Those who are quick can learn everything they need to about the game by following us but if you blink, we're gone. Our people are zergers. We blaze through quests, solo puzzles, etc. Trying to learn a quest you don't know by grouping with us is likely an exercise in bafflement to the average player.

Recently, my wife began playing DDO and she just talked one of her friends into starting. I would like to show them both the ropes. That means I can't really count on my Legion buddies to help teach them. Soooo...

The idea here is that I am creating a static party that groups together at a given time every week and experiences the content, builds teamwork and gameplay skills, and basically learns the game WITHOUT zerging.

The rest of your account, do with what you will but I need one dedicated character that will be there week after week without outlevelling anyone. Think of this as a pnp group.

Time:

My wife (and her friend as well, I believe) work a rotating schedule that frequently includes weekends. She also works nights most weekdays and is usually unavailable from 12pm EST - 11:30 pm EST. This doesn't leave a lot of room to work with lol. I'm shooting for 7 AM EST - 12 PM EST Saturdays/Sundays. Probably on Saturdays to start and then we'll see if everyone can handle both days.

Edit: it's also possible that this might be a night thing. 11:30 pm EST is probably a little late for most east coasters but I suppose it would be good for pacific/mountain players (8:30/9:30 respectively). I'll have to run this by her...

Goals:

1) The main goal here is for me to teach and people to learn the game and improve their gaming skill.

2) Our group will be balanced and builds are meant to mesh well together in any group effort. We will be running every quest at least on normal and many on all three difficulties (maybe all of them, we'll see how it goes).

3) We will be taking our time. I will take the time, at first, to point out every trap, every secret door, every hidden objective, etc. As time goes on, I will purposely allow people to figure some of this stuff out for themselves so they learn. I want to teach people the quests so well that they have mastered them but I also don't want to be a giant walking spoiler ruining the first time experience for some people.

What I need:

1) I need mature, friendly individuals who are good team players and don't mind some foul language in voice chat.

2) I need people that have Drow or 1750 unlocked. Now, I know what you're thinking. If people already have this much favor, they should already know the game, right? We all know how untrue this is most of the time. Drow favor is easy to achieve. My wife's character is Drow and her friend will be unlocking it before we begin. I only need ONE player that has 1750.

3) I have designed the builds I need for this group. I need people who are willing to play these builds exactly as they are designed. I have created a party build that should have no problem 6 manning every quest in the game.

4) I need people who are NOT lost causes lol. To be a top-notch player in this game, it doesn't take much more than superior video game skills, the ability to learn, and time. If you have a friend or spouse who would like to learn the game and you're willing to let them use a slot on your 400/1750 favor account, perfect! If they can't tell the difference between the left and right mouse buttons, however, this is not for them...

I need:
Human Paladin, 32 point build
Drow Bard
Drow Wizard
Drow Rogue (this toon will be VERY squishy - boring for some, especially early on - but HIGHLY effective when played with a group and will boast some of the highest rogue skills in the game)

Again, the goal here is to learn quests and successful play styles but there may be Legion invites for those who perform exceptionally well.

PM me if this is something that interests you.

~Urich

[Memnir]

I'd love to lend a hand, since I think that helping people learn the game early is key to avoiding lousy PUGs at higher levels... but the play times kinda put me out of the running.

GL with the group - hope it goes well.

[Chromagna]

whats funny is you think there isnt anyone else doing the same things u are(zerging,soloing,figuring out puzzles)...lmao, welcome to playing ddo. id put my loot list against yours anyday of the week, and if ya want ill smack ya around in pvp anytime youd like. but what im really here to say is cool it with your mouth. we dont wanna hear it. i too can play with the best of em, but youll never hear about as i take a more sublte approach to my game time. but i will say this....ive been playing since beta....and never responded to a forum post, so good job on your mouth finally getting some attention as it just keeps running and running......look me up sometime....im in novus and i go by...rigormortis/pandemic/constantine/phatz/disable/cyanide and the 20 other toons ive capped out and killed for fun....cya soon mouth!!

[Clay]

I usually play 7 AM EST - 12 PM EST Saturdays/Sundays and can help out... I don't have many slots left, but have a drow bard 3 and rog 5, which could possible be rerolled...

[PaintHorseCowboy]

Have them contact The Unbound as well.

We will be glad to help. We typically zerg levels but we also take time to make our our members, and allies, know the ins, outs, and how-to's of a quest. A lot of our members can walk you through how to do various quests without actually having to be in the quest. Send them a tell, let them know where you're stuck and they'll tell you how to proceed.

I also work a variable schedule since I fly. Often times I'm on in the morning (if I'm flying in the evening), or vice versa. Weekdays, weekends, etc.

Anyway, good hunting and see you in game.



Crazyhorse/Medicnehorse/Deheysus/Painthorse/Warhorse
XO of The Unbound

[loki523]

whats funny is you think there isnt anyone else doing the same things u are(zerging,soloing,figuring out puzzles)...lmao, welcome to playing ddo. id put my loot list against yours anyday of the week, and if ya want ill smack ya around in pvp anytime youd like. but what im really here to say is cool it with your mouth. we dont wanna hear it. i too can play with the best of em, but youll never hear about as i take a more sublte approach to my game time. but i will say this....ive been playing since beta....and never responded to a forum post, so good job on your mouth finally getting some attention as it just keeps running and running......look me up sometime....im in novus and i go by...rigormortis/pandemic/constantine/phatz/disable/cyanide and the 20 other toons ive capped out and killed for fun....cya soon mouth!!

Wow. That was completely uncalled for. I'm really not so much mad about all the insults you just hurled at me for absolutely no reason. I'm more upset about the fact that NV has always been a good guild with a good bunch of guys and you're making them look like trash with this post.

For the record (and for the sake of my epeen) I will put anything of mine against anything of yours any day of the week. I guarantee your "loot list" pales in comparison, I'll outkill you in any quest, pvp, anything you feel like. Feel free to give Urich a shout whenever you're feeling froggy.

In the meantime, I'm trying to put a group together to play with some friendly folks and teach some people, who think they might benefit from the experience, what I know. I'd appreciate it if you shoo.

[TreknaQudane]

Best of luck setting this up

I only wonder how much one can learn the game though if you're playing it for them

[loki523]

Thanks for the PM's folks! I'll look them over and get back to you but it looks like we should have enough no problem.

Thanks for the hate too. Can always count on the good old forum community to come up with some amusing drivel...

[smodge13]

Best of luck setting this up

I only wonder how much one can learn the game though if you're playing it for them

was going to say same thing, it sounds as if your maybe controlling things a bit much and they may not learn much, maybe a better approach would be to allow these new people to run it how they think is best and then after completion/failure, encourage and analyze what they did/could do better, make suggestions maybe AFTER they have developped a playstyle, otherwise their not really learning are they? its like dictation compared to playing around with an engine, which would you learn more from?

Edit: also you dont need much to do every quest in the game on normal, just a rogue who has maxed ranks in search/spot/disable, and people with 21 wis/int/cha in your static group, controlling the builds they play also in my opinion is a terrible idea because one of the best things about ddo is the differences between all the characters and the amount of options you have, making a fixed build for entire party will teach alot less than letting them choose their own and advising, or maybe finding what they want ie main aim of the char. and helping them with it, without forcing it along a set path.

[greenelephant]

How much skill is there in a min max build? I mean you are min maxing lol. Building well balanced chars are where the skill lies.

[Chromagna]

ty everyone for contributing to maybe briging this dude back down to earth

[Whulffer]

A problem with legion is many in legion only know their own great players and few others, everyone they don't know is a no-one, which is a mistake.
Wanna meet me in the TOR? Just send me an in-game text.

Ohh ps. If you join legion school, you will become blind to the world outside of legion, live in a fantasy land where legion rules the world blissfully unaware the fantasy is just that. It's diagnosed as legionisis.

Draeko Via'tiz

[TreknaQudane]

A problem with legion is many in legion only know their own great players and few others, everyone they don't know is a no-one, which is a mistake.
Wanna meet me in the TOR? Just send me an in-game text.

Ohh ps. If you join legion school, you will become blind to the world outside of legion, live in a fantasy land where legion rules the world blissfully unaware the fantasy is just that. It's diagnosed as legionisis.

Draeko Via'tiz

The line between honestly questioning and insulting is about five meters to the left of you... looks like you really crossed it.

[Lizzybrat]

Wow. The guy posts about setting something up to help out his wife and a friend and you all go postal. Who cares how he wants to go about it, it's their deal. If you don't like the way they plan on going about it then don't join them. Sheesh! talk about completely random flaming!

Hey Loki, while I currently don't have any spots free and my online time is sporadic at best with this pregnancy, please let your wife know that she is more than welcome to stick my chars on her friends list. I have anything from lvl 1 up to capped and would be happy to run around if you need an extra body.

We need more females in game! Can't wait until she is high enough to join some of the women only raids.

[BUpcott]

Wow. The guy posts about setting something up to help out his wife and a friend and you all go postal. Who cares how he wants to go about it, it's their deal. If you don't like the way they plan on going about it then don't join them. Sheesh! talk about completely random flaming!

Hey Loki, while I currently don't have any spots free and my online time is sporadic at best with this pregnancy, please let your wife know that she is more than welcome to stick my chars on her friends list. I have anything from lvl 1 up to capped and would be happy to run around if you need an extra body.

We need more females in game! Can't wait until she is high enough to join some of the women only raids.

I told you that you are not allowed to post until you have our love child. Now get over here and lets play some snakes and ladders.

[Lizzybrat]

I told you that you are not allowed to post until you have our love child. Now get over here and lets play some snakes and ladders.

LOL! Quit thread stalking me

[BUpcott]

LOL! Quit thread stalking me

But I love you!!

/runs behind a bush and pulls out binoculars.

[smodge13]

Wow. The guy posts about setting something up to help out his wife and a friend and you all go postal. Who cares how he wants to go about it, it's their deal. If you don't like the way they plan on going about it then don't join them. Sheesh! talk about completely random flaming!

Hey Loki, while I currently don't have any spots free and my online time is sporadic at best with this pregnancy, please let your wife know that she is more than welcome to stick my chars on her friends list. I have anything from lvl 1 up to capped and would be happy to run around if you need an extra body.

We need more females in game! Can't wait until she is high enough to join some of the women only raids.

intention wasn't to flame, more to aid by suggesting altering his teaching methods, a game is meant to be fun and a bit less serious, the op was making it sound like he was going to make them follow strict guidelines from the beginning and not give people much of a chance to learn without an aid, if their taught in the streamlined way the op is making it sound like he intends, then what happens when they join their first pug?, chaos.

[Rayzorlew]

whats funny is you think there isnt anyone else doing the same things u are(zerging,soloing,figuring out puzzles)...lmao, welcome to playing ddo. id put my loot list against yours anyday of the week, and if ya want ill smack ya around in pvp anytime youd like. but what im really here to say is cool it with your mouth. we dont wanna hear it. i too can play with the best of em, but youll never hear about as i take a more sublte approach to my game time. but i will say this....ive been playing since beta....and never responded to a forum post, so good job on your mouth finally getting some attention as it just keeps running and running......look me up sometime....im in novus and i go by...rigormortis/pandemic/constantine/phatz/disable/cyanide and the 20 other toons ive capped out and killed for fun....cya soon mouth!!

WOW!
Medication in thread #3 please.......lol

Loki,
I'm thinking there is a subplot here......
You like killed his dad years ago and now he's back to smack you down in DDO!
Or....
During Beta you let him die saying "Your not worth my spell points kid!"
....and ever since he has been out there...training...to someday get revenge!
..................(play revenge music).......BUhahaha!!

Not sure what it is but he's definetly butthurt about something!

Chrom......do us a favor bro.....Go back to not responding to the forums!

[PaintHorseCowboy]

I'm thinking there is a subplot here......
You like killed his dad years ago and now he's back to smack you down in DDO!

<cheesy spanish accent ON>
And when I find the man with six fingers on his right hand, I will say to him...

"Hello.

My Name is Inigo Montoya.

You kill my father.

Prepare to die."

<cheesy spanish accent OFF>