Grease seems inconsistent

[Kalanth]

When did this change happen??? I use grease with my party only AFTER I give everyone freedom of movement. You can knock down the skellies in giant hold with a bit of grease. And I've never seen a party member slip/slide/fall/blue dot save when they have FoM on them.

Just like any bug, not all the time. I was in Tempest Spine the other day and had FoM on me. Someone placed grease as a joke and I slid to the bottom of the hill. I checked to make sure FoM was still on, and I have 10 minutes left. So I bug reported it.

[Shade]

So does sleetstorm if I recall correctly.

These spells affect friendlies because if they didn't they would be unbelievably ridiculously powerful.

Think on it. A level 14 Sorc mass casting friendly grease left and right.

Now think about sleetstorm with its various effects as well.

And yeah.

Want to talk about a must have spell?

I know lots of people who use grease all the time, usualy in gianthold tor. First the bard makes the whole party imune to it with freedom of movement, then he sprays the entire area with it.

Its not particularly overpowered.. The giants often slip and fall and it doesnt effect the party but the giants there are easy anyways.