Raidless Raidloot.

[Dingo123]

Some of us hate raiding. In fact, some of us REALLY hate raiding. Consequently, we try to avoid it. However, those of us that do get shafted in the loot department. I would like to see this change.

My proposal is that there be created an exceptionally long series of quests that allows you to choose from a list of raid quality gear. For example, if your average storyline quest chain were 4 quests long, this would be 12 to 16.

This balances out the raiders investment of difficulty/manpower with the small groups investment of time.

[Big_Russ]

nm

[Cowdenicus]

No, if you want the raid quality loot, you have to raid.

[shermahawk]

Please stop posting these 'give me free easy stuff threads'. It is obvious this game is way to much for you. This game is fine the way it is. Pffft, 'raidless loot', please.

[Hendrik]

LOL!

They keep getting better and better...

Whats next? Some of 'us' don't like to Quest so we should be given free XP?!?

Oh, wait, tried that one already and didn't work....

Keep up the comedic posts.

[Symar-FangofLloth]

Raid loot is not the be-all, end-all in this game, as I understand it is in some others. Sure, a lot of it is really good, but is it absolutely necessary? Nope.

[Tanka]

Another fine idea from the brain of Dingo123.

What will he come up with next?

[Bizbag]

If you want raid loot, you have to raid. Simple as that.

I suppose you want Planar Girds to be purchasable from a vendor, too?

By the way, we already have several quest chains that are plenty long. Greymoon/Co6 is 10 quests, Threnal is 9 quests, the Catacombs are 8(?) quests, Tangleroot is many quests... If you want long quest chains, go do those.

[Symar-FangofLloth]

Here, you want Raidless Raidloot? Go play LotR:O. They have ways there.

[Tenkari_Rozahas]

um, uh... how about no? its unfair to the people who already raided like 100+ times and only got like 2-3 pieces of loot.

[Clay]

"Mediocre minds often think they have great ideas... and spend too much time shouting them down from the forums." ~ clay

Honestly... if DDO is really so bad: not enough like wow... no cheat-codes like a console game... not enough like every other mmorpg.... not enough free XP (It is possible to reach lvl 14 in 1 week... that is not fast enough?)... no grinding...

All reasons why MOST of us like THIS game over all the other ones... Why do you still play it?

[BLAKROC]

Some of us hate raiding. In fact, some of us REALLY hate raiding. Consequently, we try to avoid it. However, those of us that do get shafted in the loot department. I would like to see this change.

My proposal is that there be created an exceptionally long series of quests that allows you to choose from a list of raid quality gear. For example, if your average storyline quest chain were 4 quests long, this would be 12 to 16.

This balances out the raiders investment of difficulty/manpower with the small groups investment of time.

they have done this it's called vons 1-6(and others)and I would imagine it takes less time than a 12-14 quest series? did you fall on your head?

[Oran_Lathor]

I was dead set against your other ideas Dingo, much like the others here. That said, I think some of us have taken to bashing your ideas out of hand, haha. Not that I necessarily think this one is any better than your others... but still, if anyone had posted this I think more answers would look something like this, so here goes:

What is there to not like about raiding in this game? As it stands, every raid in the game can be finished quite easily with 6 or less people. Indeed, most if not all are actually easier with 6 or fewer, as coordination is less of a problem. You want raid loot without 'raiding' ? Do them in 6 person groups and don't call it a raid. The only functional difference is that they *allow* you to bring more people, otherwise, they are just quests.

My 2 cents,
hope they help this time

[Tenkari_Rozahas]

Raids in DDO are not like hte raids in WoW or the Task force/Strike forces of CoX. many of them can be completed in like 1.5 hours, or less depending on the raid/group. hell, the DQ raid can be beat in like 10-20 minutes once you get the pre-raid out of the way.

[Tanka]

Raids in DDO are not like hte raids in WoW or the Task force/Strike forces of CoX. many of them can be completed in like 1.5 hours, or less depending on the raid/group. hell, the DQ raid can be beat in like 10-20 minutes once you get the pre-raid out of the way.

DQ is the easiest to run. I duo it all the time. Once I get the necklace from Reaver, I can solo it (not that I will, I don't need anything from there anymore).

Reaver comes in second. You can trio it with ease.

[Tenkari_Rozahas]

from my experience, (havent ran the reaver raid yet.) its DQ, Dragon, and titan... the titans by far the most annoying raid in the game, I only ran it once, didnt like it that much.some day i might try it again.

Tempest spines a fun raid to do as well, unless you got a group that doesnt know what they are doing.

[BUpcott]

Some of us hate raiding. In fact, some of us REALLY hate raiding. Consequently, we try to avoid it. However, those of us that do get shafted in the loot department. I would like to see this change.

My proposal is that there be created an exceptionally long series of quests that allows you to choose from a list of raid quality gear. For example, if your average storyline quest chain were 4 quests long, this would be 12 to 16.

This balances out the raiders investment of difficulty/manpower with the small groups investment of time.

Run a raid 20 times and theres your raid loot. The raids are not that difficult. Jeck if you get yourself in a good guild you will see failure rarely. And I really don't get how you became the voice of the people.

Are you going for strength in numbers. mean the more ideas you come up with the higher your chance one might catch on? If that is the case, then for you next idea make it, the idea that you should avoid posting ideas. I am sure it will be welcomed by many.

[Tanka]

from my experience, (havent ran the reaver raid yet.) its DQ, Dragon, and titan... the titans by far the most annoying raid in the game, I only ran it once, didnt like it that much.some day i might try it again.

Tempest spines a fun raid to do as well, unless you got a group that doesnt know what they are doing.

Having run all four (and lead all four), I'd say:

DQ, Reaver, Dragon, Titan.

Titan is only annoying when you don't have anyone who knows both sides and don't have a group that is self-sufficient for healing in the Titan fight itself. Keeping 10-12 up on their feet when trying to drop the Titan's shields can get taxing if there are one or two players who don't even bother with any self healing whatsoever.

[Tenkari_Rozahas]

main reason i descided to not run the titan again.... first char i ever got keyed was my cleric XD first time run through there with a cleric isnt quiet the wisest idea me thinks.

[Tanka]

main reason i descided to not run the titan again.... first char i ever got keyed was my cleric XD first time run through there with a cleric isnt quiet the wisest idea me thinks.

If you get a group who knows all the ins-and-outs, it's a cakewalk.

But like I said above, everybody's gotta be self-sufficient so the Cleric doesn't end up burning through a ton of scrolls and wands.