With the change to /death

[Jaggie]

I'm going to miss my random acts of /death in the market place. and my random acts of evilness by /death in front of permadeathers. Was so much fun. and the exp dept was worth it.
Now I just have to find new and more creative ways of dieing in front of them. >:3

[Palmetto]

Not to be nitpicky but the minimum level is 7 for a heal scroll. You can use one on a successful caster check. I forget how the roll works but as I was moving my lowbie cleric through the levels I could heal on a roll over 10.

The minimum lvl on a raise dead scroll is 7. Are you sure the minimum lvl on heal is also 7? I thought it was 9.

[Riddikulus]

The minimum lvl on a raise dead scroll is 7. Are you sure the minimum lvl on heal is also 7? I thought it was 9.

You are correct.

[Cowdenicus]

Not to be nitpicky but the minimum level is 7 for a heal scroll. You can use one on a successful caster check. I forget how the roll works but as I was moving my lowbie cleric through the levels I could heal on a roll over 10.

Heal is a level 6 spell. So min caster level check starts at 9 not 7.

[Cowdenicus]

Listen all, I am just going off what I see on Risia.

I am not happy with the change to the new mechanic, but it is going live. I am just reporting on some possible issues I see.

A cleric running around with feeblemind is debilitating to a group, yes there MAY be other options of curing it, other than the heal spell (Arcanes are supposed to be able to cure feeblemind also but have no way of doing it in game at the present time).

Yes maybe asking for additional saves may not be strictly accurate according to P&P or having a potion of cure feeblemind may not be in P&P also, but limited wish is in there, and not in game.

True if you found a halfling who spent three feats on the dragon mark and hasnt used all of their heals already, or found a paladin in group who happened to go with one specific line on enhancements and they are in party you might be in luck. Otherwise you are out of luck.

I guess my point is this, in P&P there are 4 ways to cure feeblemind, in DDO we will never see 3 of them. All I am asking for is a second common way to cure it.

[Cowdenicus]

Well, if you have a Cleric with you, they can make a Caster Level check to use a Heal scroll. Might take a couple of tries, but they'll get it eventually.

Incorrect.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Well, if you have a Cleric with you, they can make a Caster Level check to use a Heal scroll. Might take a couple of tries, but they'll get it eventually.

Incorrect.

How is that incorrect?

[Palmetto]

I guess my point is this, in P&P there are 4 ways to cure feeblemind, in DDO we will never see 3 of them. All I am asking for is a second common way to cure it.

Just currious (and lazy), what are they?

[Riddikulus]

How is that incorrect?

Well it's incorrect only if the cleric is below level 9... can't even wield the scroll in that case.

[roughdoughnut]

i got 4 ways to cure a cleric of feeblemind in a quest

have the other cleric in the group do it
have the bard in the group use a scroll
have the rogue in the group use a scroll
have the sorceror in the group use a scroll

i havent read all the posts but has anyone mentioned this yet?

such a minor issue should be overlooked

[Mad_Bombardier]

Well it's incorrect only if the cleric is below level 9... can't even wield the scroll in that case.

That I understand. A conditional note is acceptable. A blanket "incorrect" is just as wrong.

A positive note with this change is that, in those few cases where death is the only recourse, it forces us to die in fun and creative ways.

[Cowdenicus]

How is that incorrect?

because if the cleric is feebleminded, they cannot use scrolls period.

[BUpcott]

because if the cleric is feebleminded, they cannot use scrolls period.

I think they were implying another cleric.

[Cowdenicus]

Thank you.

no worries.

/double Ninja.

[Cowdenicus]

Just currious (and lazy), what are they?

Heal, Limited Wish, Miracle, Wish.

[Palmetto]

Heal, Limited Wish, Miracle, Wish.

Thank you.

[Cowdenicus]

Well it's incorrect only if the cleric is below level 9... can't even wield the scroll in that case.

if the cleric is feebleminded, they cannot use a scroll. they cannot use a wand, they cannot cast anything.

[Riddikulus]

if the cleric is feebleminded, they cannot use a scroll. they cannot use a wand, they cannot cast anything.

Well as I found out with the other thread and the Restless Isle case, if you have a feebleminded cleric, have him zerg & die, then you can take his stone to a rez shrine.

I'd prefer they just add cure feeblemind to the shrines and that will be that.

[Cowdenicus]

I think they were implying another cleric.

Well if you have 2 clerics in a group, I guess then it is not as big a problem, but that does not seem to be a very common occurance.

[Mad_Bombardier]

because if the cleric is feebleminded, they cannot use scrolls period.

Again, a conditional negative. In that case, we have Greater Dragonmark Halflings and UMD Bards/Palys/Rogues/Sorcs.