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    Hi all,

    It was wonderful to read that soon we will be getting some much needed help with everybody’s inventory clutter with the new "collectable bags".

    I'm kind of wondering if and when we might ever see some help with some of our other inventory clutter like possible "magic quivers" that could cut down on the ammunition clutter for all the different kinds of arrows and bolts we carry or maybe even a "magic components bag" to help with all the clutter that is caused by all the different components some toons have to carry to cast spells.

    Ya, ya,…. I'm sure this is all wishful dreaming here but if you never ask, then you will probably never receive it.

    Good hunting to you all.

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    I was talking about this before. A magic component bag would make my day. It's pretty crappy that just because I decided to go with caster I just about have one less pack for my components. But, hey, what can ya do?

    perhaps somone will look at this thread and start coding up a component bag!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironik View Post
    I was talking about this before. A magic component bag would make my day. It's pretty crappy that just because I decided to go with caster I just about have one less pack for my components. But, hey, what can ya do?

    perhaps somone will look at this thread and start coding up a component bag!
    Try a ranger/wizard. Between components and arrows, I have to sell/delete inventory quite often, even after short missions.

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    I was just thinking about that too... about a ranged character (lots of bolts/arrows) with lots of spell components... and most likely a handful of robes too...

    i guess it's a little better now that you can buy the somewhat returning arrows... and they have more pack spaces available...but still :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okita View Post
    i guess it's a little better now that you can buy the somewhat returning arrows... and they have more pack spaces available...but still :P

    Yes, the returning arrows are a help but if a person wanted to enchant their arrows with a wand of flaming arrow then they would be S.O.L!! As that will only work on non magical arrows...

    The magical quivers would be a huge help to all ranged classes. My 6 level Ranger usually has to fill up one pack with bolts just to make it through a semi long adventure with his heavy repeater...

    Good hunting to you all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steejan View Post
    Yes, the returning arrows are a help but if a person wanted to enchant their arrows with a wand of flaming arrow then they would be S.O.L!! As that will only work on non magical arrows...

    The magical quivers would be a huge help to all ranged classes. My 6 level Ranger usually has to fill up one pack with bolts just to make it through a semi long adventure with his heavy repeater...

    Good hunting to you all!

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    Well a wand of flame arrow doesn't require arrows. It just makes arrows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cataclysm View Post
    Well a wand of flame arrow doesn't require arrows. It just makes arrows.
    Really, it makes arrows out of thin air? What about bolts, will it make them too?

    I was under the impression that you used the wand to cast the spell on the selected ammunition type.

    LOL... of course, I have not been playing a Ranger for very long and I had still not tried to use a wand of flaming arrow yet.

    So thanks for the info...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironik View Post
    I was talking about this before. A magic component bag would make my day. It's pretty crappy that just because I decided to go with caster I just about have one less pack for my components. But, hey, what can ya do?

    perhaps somone will look at this thread and start coding up a component bag!
    The real problem with casters is that we aren't even supposed to have to keep track/buy componants for most spells.... We are just "assumed" to have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steejan View Post
    Really, it makes arrows out of thin air? What about bolts, will it make them too?

    I was under the impression that you used the wand to cast the spell on the selected ammunition type.

    LOL... of course, I have not been playing a Ranger for very long and I had still not tried to use a wand of flaming arrow yet.

    So thanks for the info...
    Wands and scrolls do not need extra material missles (but the spell still does). They make them out of thin air. No, really! It's one of the best new wands in the game.

    And you get the full selection of missle weapons; Arrows, Bolts, Daggers, Darts, Axes, Shuriken(?), Hammers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Bombardier View Post
    Wands and scrolls do not need extra material missles (but the spell still does). They make them out of thin air. No, really! It's one of the best new wands in the game.

    And you get the full selection of missle weapons; Arrows, Bolts, Daggers, Darts, Axes, Shuriken(?), Hammers.
    Ahhhh,....... so that's it!

    The actual spell does require ammunition but the wands and scroll don't. Are these wands and scroll available to be bought at any of vendors?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steejan View Post
    I'm kind of wondering if and when we might ever see some help with some of our other inventory clutter like possible "magic quivers" that could cut down on the ammunition clutter for all the different kinds of arrows and bolts we carry or maybe even a "magic components bag" to help with all the clutter that is caused by all the different components some toons have to carry to cast spells.
    From what I've read it seems component bads ae MUCH more likely than quivers. The reason being that the bags supposedly hold up to 100 of any one item... not multiple stacks or the same item. And since Arrows/Bolts are usually stacks upon stacks of the same item...

    I would still love to see quivers even as described above, because I'd *LOVE* to be able to store all of those specialty arrows. As is now they are often vendor trash due to inventory issues.
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    Yes, you can buy them at the House J shop(Probably other places as well). The material components for wands and scrolls are consumed when they are created, so the end user doesn't have to worry about that side of it.
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    Yep, but just think, that bag could be used to put all those different types of arrows and bolts in for storage and save lots and lots of bank space...


    Good hunting to you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
    Yes, you can buy them at the House J shop(Probably other places as well). The material components for wands and scrolls are consumed when they are created, so the end user doesn't have to worry about that side of it.
    Good info Freeman, thanks!

    Now all I have to do is figure out how to get my Ranger to beat the UMD roll on the wand. LOL!!!

    Good hunting to you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien the First One View Post
    The real problem with casters is that we aren't even supposed to have to keep track/buy componants for most spells.... We are just "assumed" to have them.
    That rule is really just to streamline bookkeeping issues: Keeping track of how many "pinches of sand" you are carrying will usually slow down the game unduly. However, in most MMO's, DDO being no exception, inventory management is part of the game, and DDO has streamlined components to be a mainly 1-type-per-spell-level mechanic, so it's really not so bad. After all, in PnP you don't normally have to keep track of exactly where in your pack you've placed your scrolls, wands, potions, etc., and yet in DDO I find myself frequently scanning 5 tabs of inventory slots to find some wand or potion I just picked up.

    Ultimately, everyone of every class has to deal with some sort of inventory issues, weather its weapons, scrolls, etc., though it does seem to me that ammo-users have it worst. The collectable and gem bags are a direct result of people simply not bothering with either of these item types because they take too much space relative to their usefulness. The dev's are attempting to make these things relevant and useful again. Ammo, components, scrolls, etc. are already important enough to warrant at least some devoted inventory slots.

    Besides, if they issued a component bag, then the Eschew Materials feat would become completely useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSL View Post
    Besides, if they issued a component bag, then the Eschew Materials feat would become completely useless.
    Yea, I’m sure the Eschew Material feat would probably fall to the way side but I'm sure that there are a lot of other feats that people would love to replace it with... Plus by adding the "component bags" into the game it would be another really neat loot item people would sink more time into this game to get.


    Plus if you really think about it, the size of the components that are used for the spells we have really would not even come close to taking up the actual inventory space they do right now.


    Good hunting to ya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSL View Post
    Besides, if they issued a component bag, then the Eschew Materials feat would become completely useless.
    It would still save on component cost and weight. But, they'd have to make it +0 SP as per PnP to justify spending a feat to eliminate minor cost and encumbrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steejan View Post
    [...]Plus if you really think about it, the size of the components that are used for the spells we have really would not even come close to taking up the actual inventory space they do right now.[I][...]
    Easy now, if you want to start using that argument you're opening up a whole new can of worms. Then we'll have to start wondering why a suit of full plate takes up the same amount of space as a wand or a ring. After all, our Monday brains can only handle so much physics-warping contradiction.

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