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    Quote Originally Posted by tihocan View Post
    Hmm yes, that's why I pointed out why very few actually do it. Or at least, I have yet to group with someone who does it (though I may have not noted it, but a shield every couple of minutes should attract some attention).
    My guess is it would be much more common if pots were available.

    I see it a lot on people who use either form of weapon fighting. But maybe it's just more common in my circles on Khyber.

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    Rangers tend to do this more often as modern Rangers tend to have UMD. Shield Wands FTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karethon View Post
    It was a reward from House Phiarlan when favor first came out. Then someone pointed out that it has a range of personal, and they took it away. (Note: I don't recall the details around why it was removed, but remember the range being mentioned as a possibility.)
    False Life is also Range:Personal and is still available. It's not just the range, it's the game balance consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tihocan View Post
    Hmm yes, that's why I pointed out why very few actually do it. Or at least, I have yet to group with someone who does it (though I may have not noted it, but a shield every couple of minutes should attract some attention).
    My guess is it would be much more common if pots were available.
    4th level WF Fighter with a Wizard splash. Every fight that will have MM cast at me and some of the tougher fights where the AC might matter you will see me casting Shield. Because of the 30% spell failure and limited SPs I carry a wand of Shield as a backup.

    For big battles my normal routine goes:
    Bull's Strength - wand
    Barkskin - potion
    Shield(extended) - cast
    False Life - wand
    Shield of Faith - potion
    Divine Favor - clicky
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    Buffs? Barbs don't need no steenkeen buffs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirtach View Post
    Buffs? Barbs don't need no steenkeen buffs!
    If they want my Cleric to heal them, they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldini View Post
    They come on Clickies, why not potions?

    They're a self-only spell, so maybe there's a limitation in that regard, but I think they should come in potion form.

    If anything to let barbs be able to have shield up while raging instead of just being able to use a clicky prior to a rage. This gives an advantage to the other melee classes over barbs since they can use shield clickies at any point.
    The reason there are no shield potions is because per D&D rules, potions can not be created from self only spells.

    From the SRD:

    CREATING POTIONS

    The creator of a potion needs a level working surface and at least a few containers in which to mix liquids, as well as a source of heat to boil the brew. In addition, he needs ingredients. The costs for materials and ingredients are subsumed in the cost for brewing the potion—25 gp x the level of the spell x the level of the caster. All ingredients and materials used to brew a potion must be fresh and unused. The character must pay the full cost for brewing each potion. (Economies of scale do not apply.)

    The imbiber of the potion is both the caster and the target. Spells with a range of personal cannot be made into potions.

    The creator must have prepared the spell to be placed in the potion (or must know the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard) and must provide any material component or focus the spell requires.

    If casting the spell would reduce the caster’s XP total, he pays the XP cost upon beginning the brew in addition to the XP cost for making the potion itself. Material components are consumed when he begins working, but a focus is not. (A focus used in brewing a potion can be reused.) The act of brewing triggers the prepared spell, making it unavailable for casting until the character has rested and regained spells. (That is, that spell slot is expended from his currently prepared spells, just as if it had been cast.)

    Brewing a potion requires one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldini View Post
    They come on Clickies, why not potions?

    They're a self-only spell, so maybe there's a limitation in that regard, but I think they should come in potion form.

    If anything to let barbs be able to have shield up while raging instead of just being able to use a clicky prior to a rage. This gives an advantage to the other melee classes over barbs since they can use shield clickies at any point.
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