Trading LFMs

[Litz]

Not sure I understand his point anyway. I'm not from Ridera nor pretended to be. My post was on topic.. Why are people obsesed with keeping threads on topic anyway? This whole thing can be sumed up in three arguments:

1) I want to be able to trade and feel I should be able to use any tool in game to do so.

2) I feel other peoples right for free speach makes me have to click the scroll bar more so I am imposing my wants by telling.

3) Huh? I don't care..

There its all sumed up now we can move onto better topics like why don't we have Bigby's Interposing Hand in the game yet? Some people need something to talk to..

[Aranticus]

Not sure I understand his point anyway. I'm not from Ridera nor pretended to be. My post was on topic.. Why are people obsesed with keeping threads on topic anyway? This whole thing can be sumed up in three arguments:

1) I want to be able to trade and feel I should be able to use any tool in game to do so.

2) I feel other peoples right for free speach makes me have to click the scroll bar more so I am imposing my wants by telling.

3) Huh? I don't care..

There its all sumed up now we can move onto better topics like why don't we have Bigby's Interposing Hand in the game yet? Some people need something to talk to..

1) Devs have state LFM is NOT a tool for trades and will hand out bans

2) Right of free speech doesnt equate right to say anything. there are boundaries

3) if you dun care, y give your 2 cp here?

i'd also like bigby's crushing hand to come out

problem is, as long as there are people who continue to act like kids, disregard rules and norms, then these posts will still continue to exist

[Conejo]

i had proposed using the Twelve as a trade-open area (since there's space and nothing's being done with it yet) until they give us a proper one.

also, Litz, Turbine has the right to restrict, censor, or alter your speech however they wish. your constitutional rights do not exist to protect you from companies, they exist to protect you from the government.

[Litz]

I know.. I was making those three arguments as a spoof on the 3 positions possible to the issue, not that I believe in them.. Its really a dead issue. Other than pointing out to turbine there is a need for a barter/trade center UI interface, there is no other purpose for this thread than to vent or ramble on...

[babygirl]

since i cant post one, so cant you! something happened yesterday some farmer(well, he claimed he had 5 accounts) was arguing with me and he started to insult me when i said i would report him. therefore, from now on when i see any type of trading lfm i will send a tell give 1 final warning. if any objections, conversation ends there and i report that person right away.

Just curious there wizzy, is there anything you dont send in a report for? Ever since I have been on this server I have heard nothing about you other then the fact that pretty much anything that anyone does and your right there sending in a report... one more thing added to your list doesnt hurt I guess.

[Shaamis]

There its all sumed up now we can move onto better topics like why don't we have Bigby's Interposing Hand in the game yet? Some people need something to talk to..

That's darn funny

[CardaddictedSean]

I Still find the lfm system to be the most effective way to quickly find a +6 stat item someone has available to you. Sure you could use the forum and have a 1/5 chance of finding the item you want and then a 1/10 chance they are actually online on that peticular character you recognize from the forum. But if you quickly want the item in your hand at that exact moment and have plenty of plat to spend, and items to trade, it rocks sir!

Is there a risk factor involved? hell ya, but is it worth it? definetly

last night I needed +6 dex boots and within 40 seconds I had them. Sure I could have waited 21 hours for the muppet who didn't put a buyout on his on the auctionhouse. Or I could have them now

[wizzy_catt]

Just curious there wizzy, is there anything you dont send in a report for? Ever since I have been on this server I have heard nothing about you other then the fact that pretty much anything that anyone does and your right there sending in a report... one more thing added to your list doesnt hurt I guess.

since last warning i got, i have no intention to push the limit. i have not crossed the line for a while, mostly in pvp back in mod3. now, i dont want to see violations caused by other players. i have 0 tolerence for cursing in general chat, 0 tolerence for insults, you get 3 warnings for holding me in pvp over a time period, 1 warning for trading lfm. FOLLOW RULES! is that too much to ask? freedom of speech doesnt give you the right to violate other people's rights. that you have no arguement here. conversation ends here i will not respond to this thread from this point.

2) Right of free speech doesnt equate right to say anything. there are boundaries

[Mad_Hatter23]

since last warning i got, i have no intention to push the limit. i have not crossed the line for a while, mostly in pvp back in mod3. now, i dont want to see violations caused by other players. i have 0 tolerence for cursing in general chat, 0 tolerence for insults, you get 3 warnings for holding me in pvp over a time period, 1 warning for trading lfm. FOLLOW RULES! is that too much to ask? freedom of speech doesnt give you the right to violate other people's rights. that you have no arguement here. conversation ends here i will not respond to this thread from this point.

Well, since you intend not to push the limit any more then I'm expecting not to see you spam our screens with 7 or more needless consecutive messages that you have beat the Reaver's raid. However, I do feel that you were incorrect in saying that you haven't "crossed the line for a while" considering the aforementioned annoyance. I feel safe in stating that, obviously, following the rules is difficult even for you, so I hope you can see the irony in that statement. Lastly, Litz admitted that he knew what he had stated was incorrect. I believe it was 3 posts after the post you quoted.

[Yajerman01]

since last warning i got, i have no intention to push the limit. i have not crossed the line for a while, mostly in pvp back in mod3. now, i dont want to see violations caused by other players. i have 0 tolerence for cursing in general chat, 0 tolerence for insults, you get 3 warnings for holding me in pvp over a time period, 1 warning for trading lfm. FOLLOW RULES! is that too much to ask? freedom of speech doesnt give you the right to violate other people's rights. that you have no arguement here. conversation ends here i will not respond to this thread from this point.

Again, because you got in trouble does not make you a self appointed police "warning" people is not giving them advice. You do not want to see violations caused by others? tuff, suck it up because it happens.

Now you add "pvp holds" as a violation? where did this come from?

And since when does freedom of speech violate your rights? I think its more of a moral and ethical boundary which you hold dear, some peoples thresholds are higher then others.

YOU have no right to POLICE anyone Wizzy and if you want to talk about violations, I believe, if you can even recall, You posted an LFM for doing the Reavers. I requested an invite you invited me, only to boot me. Why? because you just needed someone to reset Reavers. I also know that you have done this to some others. I have been told that that in of itself is a violation of terms.

This is your WHine party.......thank god its over, that is until your next whine.

[Blazer]

Now you add "pvp holds" as a violation? where did this come from?

Many GMs have come down on people for essentially keeping someone in a state of "permanent incapacitation" in PVP. Never killing them, just keeping them held/commanded/fascinated/flesh-to-stoned...whatever. GMs have said this is a form of harrassment and will not be tolerated.

[theweeman]

since last warning i got, i have no intention to push the limit. i have not crossed the line for a while, mostly in pvp back in mod3. now, i dont want to see violations caused by other players. i have 0 tolerence for cursing in general chat, 0 tolerence for insults, you get 3 warnings for holding me in pvp over a time period, 1 warning for trading lfm. FOLLOW RULES! is that too much to ask? freedom of speech doesnt give you the right to violate other people's rights. that you have no arguement here. conversation ends here i will not respond to this thread from this point.

this is your first warning, im sick of hearing you whine about everything on gods green earth. this is your second warning, its not my fault you forgot there was a fortitude save, and u dont got 1. this is your 3rd warning, im starting to notice that not many ppl enjoy your everyday actions of being the ddo hall monitor, come on even in school the hall monitor was disliked and beat up. It must be everyones fault u got banned once, and trust me we r paying for it, we have to hear u send us anoying tells about your whine warning system, i dont wanna hear another tell from u, they bug me... THIS IS YOUR WARNING, if you do send me another msg i will report u for harassment because i dont wanna hear it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Kire]

Eh well a little bit back to the topic that this thread was about in the first place:

You get 3 warnings from GMs from LFM trading. I have been banned for lfm trading. Now i send a polite tell to anyone who has a trade lfm up saying simply "Careful, if you have enemies you cna get banned for a trade LFM"

For people i dont particularly care for i report immediately. For anything that i realize is breaking the rules. If i dont think it breask teh CoC then i dont report, i just squelch. It would do wizzy some good to learn the squelch commands.

BTW as far as holding someone in pvp and not releasing them. I have been reported for this not pointing any fingers (pokes wizzy). I was not banned. I was contacted for teh GM and i simply told him i was planning on killing her. Shouldnt really get so dramatic about getting left down there. Just Alt f4 and reload the client and log a different toon. problem solved. happy?

~Kire

[anden]

Beat the Ah by sending mass mails and mass tells. spam it in the general chat in a different color (it can be done, I've seen it). If the you wanna complain about the guys trying to trade report MMObay MMOcoin MMOcredits. at least we are dedicated players bother sssfssdaf. if you can find him he is the guy making real cash from the in game stuff, and violating the EULA.

This tattle tail mentality that is starting to come about it what will kill YOUR name.

I would think the Hide and Seek for prizes would also break some rule about the lfm page too then. Dunno what rule but I'm sure if someone complained they would find one.

AH i there to eat up all the cash we are hemoraging.

[Altarboy]

since last warning i got, i have no intention to push the limit. i have not crossed the line for a while, mostly in pvp back in mod3. now, i dont want to see violations caused by other players. i have 0 tolerence for cursing in general chat, 0 tolerence for insults, you get 3 warnings for holding me in pvp over a time period, 1 warning for trading lfm. FOLLOW RULES! is that too much to ask? freedom of speech doesnt give you the right to violate other people's rights. that you have no arguement here. conversation ends here i will not respond to this thread from this point.

Umm is this person for real?
Wow...I mean WOW...
I can only assume it is a child. Such mean spirited small mindedness is amazing to me. You send reports because someone holds you in a PVP pit? What about vorpals?..or finger of death..oo oo...I bet stat damage items really get you reporting! At best thats just lame. Are you sure you want to play a game that involves other "real" people? Maybe you should stick to Tetras or something like that. No chance of seeing any curses there because, as we all know, if any of you child like hall monitors see a "curse word"::gasp:: you will turn to a pillar of salt or something. Every other game has a profanity filter why DDO doesn't I have no idea. As far a free speech goes, this is a privately owned company free speech rules do not apply here. I do not like the rules but, I have to follow them. I hope never to have the sad misfortune of ending up in a party with you. If you wanna talk about it, mail me!....of course I will then report you for harasment!

Sanctimonious self important hall monitors should be dragged out and flogged!

[Hexum]

I don't see it as being a bother at all. To me, it's no different than seeing an LFM for a group that I won't be joining anyways. I'm reading something that I won't participate in regardless and it's not causing me any harm or insult. I understand the whole "But it's against the rules" deal, but so is using bugs and glitches in quests for the better of the group, but I highly doubt people will ever completely stop doing that so long as it makes things easier.

[Vordax]

You send reports because someone holds you in a PVP pit?

She is referring to holds over time.. i.e. casting hold (or fascinate, stoning etc) over and over again and NOT killing her. This has been ruled as harassment by the GM's and should be reported if a warning was given.

Vordax

[Altarboy]

She is referring to holds over time.. i.e. casting hold (or fascinate, stoning etc) over and over again and NOT killing her. This has been ruled as harassment by the GM's and should be reported if a warning was given.

Vordax

I think I need an example of what kind of time frame we are talking about here. To my understanding she is saying that, if you hold her at all you get a warning...after 3 such warnings she calls a GM...What if you are holding her and are just unable to finish the job? Holds are defensive as much as they are offensive sometimes it's all a caster has to get away. Does the same hold true for paralizers? Can't you just /death? What about killing someone over and over? Isn't that harassment as well? The whole point to the pit is to compete is it not? So, why should casters be handcuffed? Why all the robotic reporting? It's players like her and from your post you as well that will ultimately kill the interest in the game. It's very easy not to get held in the PVP pit...don't go in. As far as all the reporting goes it's petty and cowardly. It detracts from real harassment. If someone is bugging you there are other ways of dealing with it without your first thought being "I'm Telling MOM".

[Vordax]

I think I need an example of what kind of time frame we are talking about here. To my understanding she is saying that, if you hold her at all you get a warning...after 3 such warnings she calls a GM...What if you are holding her and are just unable to finish the job? Holds are defensive as much as they are offensive sometimes it's all a caster has to get away. Does the same hold true for paralizers? Can't you just /death? What about killing someone over and over? Isn't that harassment as well? The whole point to the pit is to compete is it not? So, why should casters be handcuffed? Why all the robotic reporting? It's players like her and from your post you as well that will ultimately kill the interest in the game. It's very easy not to get held in the PVP pit...don't go in. As far as all the reporting goes it's petty and cowardly. It detracts from real harassment. If someone is bugging you there are other ways of dealing with it without your first thought being "I'm Telling MOM".

She is not saying she will report you for holding her she said holding over time. She won't report you for that (I am sure she use hold in PVP also). But she will if you hold her then don't do anything but hold her again and again. I don't think you can /death in the pit either, unless that has been fixed now. I think you are pretty much stuck with logging into a new character if you get perma-held like this.

Vordax

[Strakeln]

I think I need an example of what kind of time frame we are talking about here.

I've seen people throw a hold on a person, then enervate them waaaay down, then use flesh to stone. The victim will only be able to escape on a roll of 20, and that roll only occurs once a minute. Unless some bystander takes pity and kills the victim, they will be there for a notable amount of time.

Of course, many people do this to players who are being a general pain in the rear... jumping down and genking, then climbing the ladder back up, for example. So if you find someone willing to risk a GM warning/ban to take you out of the equation, it is possible that you've been playing with excessive amounts of cheese.