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    since i cant post one, so cant you! something happened yesterday some farmer(well, he claimed he had 5 accounts) was arguing with me and he started to insult me when i said i would report him. therefore, from now on when i see any type of trading lfm i will send a tell give 1 final warning. if any objections, conversation ends there and i report that person right away.

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    Yeah, don't they understand they have a whole forum just for trades!! I actually did this once in the past and got a warning from a GM, haven't done it since. I usually tell people that I've been warned for it before, and that you can get banned for it. I don't like seeing people get banned for dumb stuff like that. They should be banned for stupidity!!!!
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    i've been sending tells to many players if i see a lfm up. most of them are polite and thanked me for the warning. players who refuse to take them down and insults me get a straight report to GM. in the past week i've gotten at least 5 players to take down their lfm w/o any incidents. but should any1 try be smart, i'll not tolerate it. its you just desserts
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    Agreed. I send them a tell now. But they should really consider a trade tab in the social panel.. I have argued this point before I guess i havent cause enough drama yet .

    IMO not enough attention on the forum and most people are just talk on the forum. Atleast in game you can walk up to the person and make the trade most people wait before or after they log out to check the forums. Why not be able to check trades in game?


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    this is what i heard. from gms point of view, trading on lfms disrupts the ah system and takes up lfm space for real looking for party groups, so it is banned. which on second thought is a stupid explaination, lfm came before ah and ppl used to do all kind of things on lfm. ah can be a rip off sometimes just look at the ah fee when u sold an item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzy_catt View Post
    this is what i heard. from gms point of view, trading on lfms disrupts the ah system and takes up lfm space for real looking for party groups, so it is banned. which on second thought is a stupid explaination, lfm came before ah and ppl used to do all kind of things on lfm. ah can be a rip off sometimes just look at the ah fee when u sold an item.
    It's just plain annoying when you are looking for a group. That's why it's banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzy_catt View Post
    this is what i heard. from gms point of view, trading on lfms disrupts the ah system and takes up lfm space for real looking for party groups, so it is banned. which on second thought is a stupid explaination, lfm came before ah and ppl used to do all kind of things on lfm. ah can be a rip off sometimes just look at the ah fee when u sold an item.
    there is a time and place for anything. LFM = looking for member, not looking for merchandise. creativity has its place, just sometimes people do not consider the boundaries.
    If you want to know why...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzy_catt View Post
    since i cant post one, so cant you! something happened yesterday some farmer(well, he claimed he had 5 accounts) was arguing with me and he started to insult me when i said i would report him. therefore, from now on when i see any type of trading lfm i will send a tell give 1 final warning. if any objections, conversation ends there and i report that person right away.
    Watch out everyone! Self-appointed hall monitors are on the loose! No longer are you allowed to take the inherent risk and commit suicide and get banned, no longer are you allowed to hang yourself, we now have a crack squad of busybodies to do that for you!

    Whoo hooo!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yajerman01 View Post
    Watch out everyone! Self-appointed hall monitors are on the loose! No longer are you allowed to take the inherent risk and commit suicide and get banned, no longer are you allowed to hang yourself, we now have a crack squad of busybodies to do that for you!

    Whoo hooo!!!
    Actually it is doing the LFMer a favor. Maybe they are new and don't know it's a bannable offense. Not quite sure what your agenda was with all the sarcasm, of course you'll probably think I'm the forum hall monitor now......That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoboldKiller View Post
    Actually it is doing the LFMer a favor. Maybe they are new and don't know it's a bannable offense. Not quite sure what your agenda was with all the sarcasm, of course you'll probably think I'm the forum hall monitor now......That is all.
    did you fail to read th OP? here ill regergitate excerpts for ya:

    "since i cant post one, so cant you! ...therefore, from now on when i see any type of trading lfm i will send a tell give 1 final warning. if any objections, conversation ends there and i report that person right away."

    This is the classic, I cant you cant argument.

    I am all for giving out freindly advice as Boldrin pointed to, but she clearly states, "from now on when i see any type of trading lfm i will send a tell give 1 final warning"

    Thats being self appointed. You dont warn people, and even if you did "warn" that person, then you dont go to the point of "report that person right away"

    thats just lame, let them hang themselves and learn the hard way.

    I did it once and got warned, learned about trades on here and haven't done it since, I do not need self appointed "players" to regulate me. If I ignore the GM and choose to do it again and get banned then i deserve it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzy_catt View Post
    since i cant post one, so cant you! something happened yesterday some farmer(well, he claimed he had 5 accounts) was arguing with me and he started to insult me when i said i would report him. therefore, from now on when i see any type of trading lfm i will send a tell give 1 final warning. if any objections, conversation ends there and i report that person right away.
    Just curious there wizzy, is there anything you dont send in a report for? Ever since I have been on this server I have heard nothing about you other then the fact that pretty much anything that anyone does and your right there sending in a report... one more thing added to your list doesnt hurt I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babygirl View Post
    Just curious there wizzy, is there anything you dont send in a report for? Ever since I have been on this server I have heard nothing about you other then the fact that pretty much anything that anyone does and your right there sending in a report... one more thing added to your list doesnt hurt I guess.
    since last warning i got, i have no intention to push the limit. i have not crossed the line for a while, mostly in pvp back in mod3. now, i dont want to see violations caused by other players. i have 0 tolerence for cursing in general chat, 0 tolerence for insults, you get 3 warnings for holding me in pvp over a time period, 1 warning for trading lfm. FOLLOW RULES! is that too much to ask? freedom of speech doesnt give you the right to violate other people's rights. that you have no arguement here. conversation ends here i will not respond to this thread from this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzy_catt View Post
    since last warning i got, i have no intention to push the limit. i have not crossed the line for a while, mostly in pvp back in mod3. now, i dont want to see violations caused by other players. i have 0 tolerence for cursing in general chat, 0 tolerence for insults, you get 3 warnings for holding me in pvp over a time period, 1 warning for trading lfm. FOLLOW RULES! is that too much to ask? freedom of speech doesnt give you the right to violate other people's rights. that you have no arguement here. conversation ends here i will not respond to this thread from this point.
    Well, since you intend not to push the limit any more then I'm expecting not to see you spam our screens with 7 or more needless consecutive messages that you have beat the Reaver's raid. However, I do feel that you were incorrect in saying that you haven't "crossed the line for a while" considering the aforementioned annoyance. I feel safe in stating that, obviously, following the rules is difficult even for you, so I hope you can see the irony in that statement. Lastly, Litz admitted that he knew what he had stated was incorrect. I believe it was 3 posts after the post you quoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzy_catt View Post
    since last warning i got, i have no intention to push the limit. i have not crossed the line for a while, mostly in pvp back in mod3. now, i dont want to see violations caused by other players. i have 0 tolerence for cursing in general chat, 0 tolerence for insults, you get 3 warnings for holding me in pvp over a time period, 1 warning for trading lfm. FOLLOW RULES! is that too much to ask? freedom of speech doesnt give you the right to violate other people's rights. that you have no arguement here. conversation ends here i will not respond to this thread from this point.
    Again, because you got in trouble does not make you a self appointed police "warning" people is not giving them advice. You do not want to see violations caused by others? tuff, suck it up because it happens.

    Now you add "pvp holds" as a violation? where did this come from?

    And since when does freedom of speech violate your rights? I think its more of a moral and ethical boundary which you hold dear, some peoples thresholds are higher then others.

    YOU have no right to POLICE anyone Wizzy and if you want to talk about violations, I believe, if you can even recall, You posted an LFM for doing the Reavers. I requested an invite you invited me, only to boot me. Why? because you just needed someone to reset Reavers. I also know that you have done this to some others. I have been told that that in of itself is a violation of terms.

    This is your WHine party.......thank god its over, that is until your next whine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yajerman01 View Post
    Now you add "pvp holds" as a violation? where did this come from?
    Many GMs have come down on people for essentially keeping someone in a state of "permanent incapacitation" in PVP. Never killing them, just keeping them held/commanded/fascinated/flesh-to-stoned...whatever. GMs have said this is a form of harrassment and will not be tolerated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzy_catt View Post
    since last warning i got, i have no intention to push the limit. i have not crossed the line for a while, mostly in pvp back in mod3. now, i dont want to see violations caused by other players. i have 0 tolerence for cursing in general chat, 0 tolerence for insults, you get 3 warnings for holding me in pvp over a time period, 1 warning for trading lfm. FOLLOW RULES! is that too much to ask? freedom of speech doesnt give you the right to violate other people's rights. that you have no arguement here. conversation ends here i will not respond to this thread from this point.
    this is your first warning, im sick of hearing you whine about everything on gods green earth. this is your second warning, its not my fault you forgot there was a fortitude save, and u dont got 1. this is your 3rd warning, im starting to notice that not many ppl enjoy your everyday actions of being the ddo hall monitor, come on even in school the hall monitor was disliked and beat up. It must be everyones fault u got banned once, and trust me we r paying for it, we have to hear u send us anoying tells about your whine warning system, i dont wanna hear another tell from u, they bug me... THIS IS YOUR WARNING, if you do send me another msg i will report u for harassment because i dont wanna hear it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Eh well a little bit back to the topic that this thread was about in the first place:

    You get 3 warnings from GMs from LFM trading. I have been banned for lfm trading. Now i send a polite tell to anyone who has a trade lfm up saying simply "Careful, if you have enemies you cna get banned for a trade LFM"

    For people i dont particularly care for i report immediately. For anything that i realize is breaking the rules. If i dont think it breask teh CoC then i dont report, i just squelch. It would do wizzy some good to learn the squelch commands.

    BTW as far as holding someone in pvp and not releasing them. I have been reported for this not pointing any fingers (pokes wizzy). I was not banned. I was contacted for teh GM and i simply told him i was planning on killing her. Shouldnt really get so dramatic about getting left down there. Just Alt f4 and reload the client and log a different toon. problem solved. happy?

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    Default If you wanna beat the Ah

    Beat the Ah by sending mass mails and mass tells. spam it in the general chat in a different color (it can be done, I've seen it). If the you wanna complain about the guys trying to trade report MMObay MMOcoin MMOcredits. at least we are dedicated players bother sssfssdaf. if you can find him he is the guy making real cash from the in game stuff, and violating the EULA.

    This tattle tail mentality that is starting to come about it what will kill YOUR name.

    I would think the Hide and Seek for prizes would also break some rule about the lfm page too then. Dunno what rule but I'm sure if someone complained they would find one.

    AH i there to eat up all the cash we are hemoraging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzy_catt View Post
    since last warning i got, i have no intention to push the limit. i have not crossed the line for a while, mostly in pvp back in mod3. now, i dont want to see violations caused by other players. i have 0 tolerence for cursing in general chat, 0 tolerence for insults, you get 3 warnings for holding me in pvp over a time period, 1 warning for trading lfm. FOLLOW RULES! is that too much to ask? freedom of speech doesnt give you the right to violate other people's rights. that you have no arguement here. conversation ends here i will not respond to this thread from this point.
    Umm is this person for real?
    Wow...I mean WOW...
    I can only assume it is a child. Such mean spirited small mindedness is amazing to me. You send reports because someone holds you in a PVP pit? What about vorpals?..or finger of death..oo oo...I bet stat damage items really get you reporting! At best thats just lame. Are you sure you want to play a game that involves other "real" people? Maybe you should stick to Tetras or something like that. No chance of seeing any curses there because, as we all know, if any of you child like hall monitors see a "curse word"::gasp:: you will turn to a pillar of salt or something. Every other game has a profanity filter why DDO doesn't I have no idea. As far a free speech goes, this is a privately owned company free speech rules do not apply here. I do not like the rules but, I have to follow them. I hope never to have the sad misfortune of ending up in a party with you. If you wanna talk about it, mail me!....of course I will then report you for harasment!

    Sanctimonious self important hall monitors should be dragged out and flogged!
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    I don't see it as being a bother at all. To me, it's no different than seeing an LFM for a group that I won't be joining anyways. I'm reading something that I won't participate in regardless and it's not causing me any harm or insult. I understand the whole "But it's against the rules" deal, but so is using bugs and glitches in quests for the better of the group, but I highly doubt people will ever completely stop doing that so long as it makes things easier.

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