More likely to get +3 tomes?

[maddmatt70]

I have not cranked out the math on this, but will it be more likely to get +3 tomes in an Elite Reaver Raid with the new raid loot changes then you would if you were to solo the Reaver Raid currently? Anybody have time to crank out the numbers on this? I am curious.

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[Impaqt]

Today: Guaranteed to get 2 pieces of Raid loot

Mod 5: 25% chance to get one Item(On Elite)

Dont need math for that.... You hav ea better chance to get a +3 tome TOday.

However, after 20 Runs you get a dozen choices fromthe raid loot table.. Pretty good chance you'll see a +3 TOme in that list.

[Freeman]

Not cranking out any numbers, but I'd say you probably still have less of a chance in the new system, even with +2 tomes being removed from the table, if you are just running solo before and after. However, under the new system your odds will actually increase by going in with more people, since it will be possible to trade for a +3 tome generated for someone else. You can't really calculate the odds of that happening though, since there are too many variables to consider.

[Knightrose]

That math is skewed.

You don't run a raid by yourself.

You also do not automatically get a tome from completing a raid.

I personally believe you will see a whole lot more +3 Tomes

[bobbryan2]

That math is skewed.

You don't run a raid by yourself.

You also do not automatically get a tome from completing a raid.

I personally believe you will see a whole lot more +3 Tomes

Faith is important.

The real answer is that we don't know. Tomes had an atrocious drop rate previously. I ran probably 40 stormreaver raids, and I've seen a single tome drop out of ~80 items. My entire guild has only seen that one tome. At least it was a +3 (and I got it )

So, even assuming that +3 tomes now drop in place of +2 tomes... those drop rates were atrociously low as well.

Now.. if every item has an equal chance of showing up in the 20 raid list... then that will probably be your best chance of getting a +3 tome.

But all that still goes out the window if they increased the +3 tome drop rate above and beyond merely dropping instead of +2's.

We didn't know a lot of those numbers, and so... there's no real way to make an educated guess one way or the other.

[Impaqt]

That math is skewed.

You don't run a raid by yourself.

You also do not automatically get a tome from completing a raid.

I personally believe you will see a whole lot more +3 Tomes

Many people absoutely DO run the Reaver Raid Solo.

If you read his post it specificaly states "SOLO"

Yes, there will be more +3 TOmes dropping from the Table.. But Solo is Solo.... Now.. 2 Item drop.. SOlo or 12 man group.... Mod 5, you have a 25% change of geting a single item.

[mgoldb2]

Also keep in mind on your 20th victory there a good chance a +3 tome will pop up as one of your endrewards base on what the devs had said. (a littel under half of everything on raid loot table including the 6 tomes which will be all +3's for the reaver raid)

I ran the reaver raid between my chars over 20 times. I still never gotten a +3 tome and only seen one drop.

[KaKa]

The change to having the reaver raid stop dropping bound +2 tomes and instead increasing +3 tomes will be the main factor, not the 1/6 or 1/4 chance of an item. I think that change will be the deciding factor in how many more +3 tomes show up so therefore there should be more because as it is +3 tomes right now are really really rare in the reaver raid. I have seen several +2 tomes in the reaer raid 5 times as many as +3 tomes to be exact.

So in conclusion there will be more +3 tomes after mod 5.

[Knightrose]

Players who consistently and ONLY run the Reaver solo are too few to be counted.

The raids in DDO are obviously not designed for one person ONLY to complete. The fact that you, I or anyone else can accomplish this feat is a personal achievement. I don't think it should be counted, or important, to how often raid loot is obtained.

[Bombalo]

Actually knight there are a decent amount of caster on the server that like to solo the reaver because it is fairly easy to do. There are even more teams that like to duo the reaver because that is even easier to accomplish. In my personal opinion that raid is designed for smaller groups to begin with. So yes the solo and duo people do need to be counted because they make up a good percentage of the people that raid. Also if you solo you are probably doing it almost as often as you can cause you dont have to wait on groups or get a schedule straight with the guildies.

[Tenkari_Rozahas]

12 man raid.... 2 pieces of loot currently on elite.

12 man raid with 25% for EACH of them getting a piece of raid loot on elite.... I count a good chance for 3 pieces to come out. so, on elite, under the new system, the more people you bring, the higher chance for loot.

[tihocan]

I really doubt it's going to be 25%. The Reaver is one of these raids where the difficulty does not increase much from normal to elite.

[Capstern]

My guess is Velah is the only raid that will see a full bump to 25% on elite cause well that b**** is nasty mean on elite.


Queen and Titan are just as easy on Elite as they are on Normal if you know what you are doing.

Reaver - wellllll they could boost that to 25% for elite but only if the reaver gets a work crew in there and does some spackle work and fills in the drafty places in his abode. If that happens then yes I see that mission on elite being easy for 20-25% increase for the AE alone. Buggers

They might bump queen and titan up 5-10% for elite maybe just because well if yu do goof they WILL kill you fast but that would be all I would expect

I do expect the new raid to be a full 25% because i would guess they have learned from theirpast raids and I do hope its hard as hell