absolutely worst cleric

[Aranticus]

was in a low lvl group and played with some awesome players. however, the group leader wasnt that awesome. this frozen fruit juice on a stick is a clr who does not even heal him(her)self. would zerg and does not listen to advice or to warning to play as a team. most of the healing was done my my brd, a rgr n a pally.

i have several myths that i'd like to debunk over here.

clr/wiz in ROBES are NOT suitable to be battleclerics. and if you like to fight and do NOT heal (not even yourself), roll a TANK. less pple will mind.

bards, rangers, paladins CAN heal, we do not need a CLERIC, especially a bad one, to keep us alive.

a clr CAN use a cure wand. if you want to use your sp for yourself, dun heal others with wands, its fine by me. i'll only use that much on you, dun expect others to heal you coz you played stupidly.

turn undead only work this well. turning undead as a L3/1 clr on an elite dungeons is NOT going to work... thanks to turbine.

the only reason you are there is coz you are the leader and we loathe recalling, lose xp just so we can reform w/o you.

ps i've taught many players how to play. we tried with this clr but all advice on deaf ears. and each time we tell him/her to group up only for him/her to zerg left while all players go right. not that i'm elitist but all 5 other players were were fed up and we popped champagne when he/she left the party.

pss i've given clue to his/her name

[Nemsin]

Maybe Beautifulwom has a new toon?

-'If you dont get it, it wasnt meant for you'

[Ghoste]

Sounds like someone got a little carried away after thinking up all the things a battle cleric could do.

They can be deadly, but for any build to be effective at zerging/solo'ing they need the patience to learn how to do it well in a way that helps the party.

[Torosar]

Maybe Beautifulwom has a new toon?

-'If you dont get it, it wasnt meant for you'

Haha, you never know

[Fredgor]

Maybe Beautifulwom has a new toon?

-'If you dont get it, it wasnt meant for you'

Or Hebe :P

[Lowniss32]

Or it could of been Elvowan also <sorry if spelling is wrong>
Now for those that do know how to play a Cleric.
It's all about that 2 skullin
My nick names for them are tweedle Dee and tweedle Dumb.
Someone tried to rub Fatty's tum tum
Clerics for life!

Fatty 14clr - Onslaught
Fattys 14clr - Onslaught
Hefty 14clr - Onslaught
Tailor 14 clr -Onslaught

[jkm]

clr/wiz in ROBES are NOT suitable to be battleclerics. and if you like to fight and do NOT heal (not even yourself), roll a TANK. less pple will mind.

my greataxe wielding sorc still gets groans at 10th level

[Ryavin]

spell wielding sorcerer Felice-lol!!!

[Ghoste]

As far as robe wearing clerics/arcanists not being meant for melee, IMO a battle bard wearing a fearsome robe of heavy fort takes less healing than all those un fortified full plate wearing fighters out there, and can out damage a lot of them to.

Now I still think a properly built fighter or barb is the best for doing the melee role, but considering all the poorly built ones out there, let's keep an open mind for the well built robe wearers. As far as the poorly built robe wearer's, or those who play like morons, give 'em hell.

[Emili]

Maybe Beautifulwom has a new toon?

-'If you dont get it, it wasnt meant for you'

I do not recall how many times I went into a group and gave them a chance again only to be disappointed as they recalled and dropped group when trouble arose.

Or Hebe :P

A long long time ago - My second version of Emili (at level 7) three personed (Hebe -cleric, Puffydawg -Pally and Emili -figter) all of Threnal (West, East and South) with Hebe and never had a problem... fact is Hebe had impressed me so as the first cleric I ever seen recall multiple times for SP meaning they showed some dedication to the group.

Anyway, Shugar as far as I know I've run into my share of incompetant players in the past as well seems they stand out like a sore thumb because for the most part the majority of people play well. As you know they'll make thier own mark on Khyber beit bad or good... hopefully they'll figure it out eventually but of course some people never do.

[Eudimio]

A long long time ago - My second version of Emili (at level 7) three personed (Hebe -cleric, Puffydawg -Pally and Emili -figter) all of Threnal (West, East and South) with Hebe and never had a problem... fact is Hebe had impressed me so as the first cleric I ever seen recall multiple times for SP meaning they showed some dedication to the group.

Emili,

There were actually three Hebe Chen's out there. One of them was surprisingly competent and willing to learn. Well, it was a surprise if you ever ran with the other two. The only problem with him is that I don't think he ever learned what lesser restoration did.

To all of the people that aren't from Riedra, the first two clerics mentioned by name were known plat farmers. The third is a decent cleric that likely got spoiled by being a back-up cleric to a certain smurf. I know mine did!

Happy Hunting,
Nuckles.

[Indrn_Fretgoop]

Riedra Ancients FTW

[Aranticus]

As far as robe wearing clerics/arcanists not being meant for melee, IMO a battle bard wearing a fearsome robe of heavy fort takes less healing than all those un fortified full plate wearing fighters out there, and can out damage a lot of them to.

Now I still think a properly built fighter or barb is the best for doing the melee role, but considering all the poorly built ones out there, let's keep an open mind for the well built robe wearers. As far as the poorly built robe wearer's, or those who play like morons, give 'em hell.

i agree with ya but the player in question is clr3/wiz1, no fearsome heavy fort robe (my rgr love hers). due to lack of lvl, not possible to equip str/dex/con items which can improve the build (L4 max +2 stat item). dex will not be high so the ac in a robe def will be low and thus not suitable to melee (esp on elite content) as hits will taken and hp is too low to cushion.

jkm, i've seen strange builds to and generally i do not comment on them until i've seen them in action. a good build is a good build if it excels in what its built to do. the clr in question fails as he/she fail to be an efficient melee build

[Gambit777]

I ran ww with my Pally/fighter or was it my rogue/ranger, I honestly can't remember. Anyway said cleric was the leader of this group and I spent most of my time rushing around trying to make sure everyone stayed on their feet. The one I healed the most, however, was the cleric. I have since managed to stay out of groups he/she has been in. There are other clerics out there that are similar in play style, but this one was definitely the worst at it. Now before I get flamed let me tell you that my main is a cleric and she is darn good at what she does and the sacrifices she makes, like leaving a dungeon repeatedly (take Tear of Dhakken on elite with no rogue as an example) to get SP back so that the whole group survives to the end. Not to toot my own horn but I have people join a group with my cleric in it just because my cleric is in it. Yes she is a battlecleric when the need arises but there is a time and a place for that and running into a room full of Kobold shamans that seals you in wearing nothing but a robe is just simply bad business practice.

[Staedtler]

Are you saying this guy is worst than Terast? Because I really don't think that's possible.

[Aranticus]

I ran ww with my Pally/fighter or was it my rogue/ranger, I honestly can't remember. Anyway said cleric was the leader of this group and I spent most of my time rushing around trying to make sure everyone stayed on their feet. The one I healed the most, however, was the cleric. I have since managed to stay out of groups he/she has been in. There are other clerics out there that are similar in play style, but this one was definitely the worst at it. Now before I get flamed let me tell you that my main is a cleric and she is darn good at what she does and the sacrifices she makes, like leaving a dungeon repeatedly (take Tear of Dhakken on elite with no rogue as an example) to get SP back so that the whole group survives to the end. Not to toot my own horn but I have people join a group with my cleric in it just because my cleric is in it. Yes she is a battlecleric when the need arises but there is a time and a place for that and running into a room full of Kobold shamans that seals you in wearing nothing but a robe is just simply bad business practice.

hee hee we were in it together. i still remember me (bard), a pally n a rgr doing all the healing, spamming wands like crazy

[AlariaTheAngry]

Why the same old debate? It hurts my battle clerice feelings lol I would just like to add here I am a bad cleric who only wants to kill things and refuses to heal party members and has a low ac! WOOT!....just ask criminal-aundair ;P

[Lo_Pan]

Lainney, I'm hurt! All those times I took the brunt of the healing work for ya, especially during Tempest spine runs.

[mgoldb2]

Maybe Beautifulwom has a new toon?

-'If you dont get it, it wasnt meant for you'

Did someone just shoot a chill shard at the dragon? uh oh as we go flying though the sky.

[Emili]

Emili,

There were actually three Hebe Chen's out there. One of them was surprisingly competent and willing to learn. Well, it was a surprise if you ever ran with the other two. The only problem with him is that I don't think he ever learned what lesser restoration did.

To all of the people that aren't from Riedra, the first two clerics mentioned by name were known plat farmers. The third is a decent cleric that likely got spoiled by being a back-up cleric to a certain smurf. I know mine did!

Happy Hunting,
Nuckles.

Well, I suppose I'm lucky because back then I lived by pug... those were the days we could log on and blind invite anyone without any drops at all, plp would just accept it... It took only 3 minutes to build a group 5 minutes to build a raid;-) I met so many clerics back then because that was always the first class I would invite... and I trusted most of them, but did have my fav's such as milton, angelicus, strakarr, draconiss to name a few, when I saw a cleric I knew upon log on I immediately got them.

As for the bad cleric debate... a bad cleric is not a battle cleric, I know plenty of battle clerics who are very good clerics.