Challenge: Dragonmarked builds!

[moorewr]

I've had a lot of trouble designing a dragon marked character that I wanted to play, so I wanted to start a challenge thread(for my benefit and edication!) - please post your Power gamer dragon marked build ideas.

The build needs to:
- be survivable at low levels
- derive benefit from the Mark as a group member in the end-game

Solo-ability isn't the focus here - we know how cool it is to be able to Dimension Door with a fighter, but in a good high-level group someone else can just cast it. THis has kept me away from the Marks of Warding, Passage, and Sentinel - yeah, it's cool, but the clerics and arcanes can do it too, better, and more often.

I have some theories, but I haven't built them to my satisfaction...

A pure rogue with the Mark of Shadows?
A bard with the Mark of Shadows?
An Arcane or a Melee with the Mark of Healing?

[Roguewiz]

Interesting challenge. Does it have to be a "pure" build, or can you splash a few levels of another class?

[moorewr]

Interesting challenge. Does it have to be a "pure" build, or can you splash a few levels of another class?

Anything you like. I request that it have at least a Lesser Dragon Mark...

[rimble]

Been enjoying my Dragonmarked Halfling Cleric as inspired by the Halfling Medic thread on the Cleric board.

[Roguewiz]

Anything you like. I request that it have at least a Lesser Dragon Mark...

Easy enough. I'll toy around with ideas tonight and post something either Friday or Saturday.

[DaveyCrockett]

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Level 14 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(14 Fighter) 
Hit Points: 282
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 6
Will: 4

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 14)
Strength             16                    24
Dexterity            10                    12
Constitution         18                    18
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 14

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I

Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I

Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I

Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II

Level 5 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II

Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II

Level 7 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III

Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II

Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III

Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark III

Level 11 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III

Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV

Level 13 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy IV

Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark IV

30 STR Greataxe Power-Attacking Fighter with 364 Hit Points, and the ability to heal himself and others (Cure Lightx9, Cure Seriousx7, Healx5). Simple, but very effective.

[rimble]

30 STR Greataxe Power-Attacking Fighter with 364 Hit Points, and the ability to heal himself and others (Cure Lightx9, Cure Seriousx7, Healx5). Simple, but very effective.

I haven't really thought if it would be worth it one way or another...but a level of Cleric would allow you to take Empower Healing Spell for +50% on those heals and Life Magic I for another +10%, and wand use, and a few other utility spells. With a Superior Potency/Devotion item that's better than what a Paladin can do with LoH.

[moorewr]

I haven't really thought if it would be worth it one way or another...but a level of Cleric would allow you to take Empower Healing Spell for +50% on those heals and Life Magic I for another +10%, and wand use, and a few other utility spells. With a Superior Potency/Devotion item that's better than what a Paladin can do with LoH.

This inspires two other versions..

Halfling 14 cleric - Gr. Mark of Healing, Empower Healing, etc. Ultimate healbot.
1/2ling 9 cleric/ rest fighter/paladin - battle cleric - Mark makes up for mana used on buffing..

[Impaqt]

Well, I just designed my Dragonmarked character..
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=118196

Mark of Passage...... But I feel the SUrviveablitly is greatly enhanced buy this mark.. 25% Striding at low levels is a fantastic benefit.

[moorewr]

Well, I just designed my Dragonmarked character..
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=118196

Mark of Passage...... But I feel the SUrviveablitly is greatly enhanced buy this mark.. 25% Striding at low levels is a fantastic benefit.

You could argue for just the Least Mark - or the Lesser, since nobody has DD at level 6. In the end-game though, I wonder how often you would need DD or Teleport. Yes, they're cool! but so is Improved THF, etc.

Since you did rogue levels, how about a build like this, but an elf with the Mark of Shadows? Or am I just obsessed?

[Impaqt]

You could argue for just the Least Mark - or the Lesser, since nobody has DD at level 6. In the end-game though, I wonder how often you would need DD or Teleport. Yes, they're cool! but so is Improved THF, etc.

Since you did rogue levels, how about a build like this, but an elf with the Mark of Shadows? Or am I just obsessed?

The same thing can be said about all the [useful] dragonmarks.... any Rogue with UMD can use a Scroll or wand to simulate that ability.. and Shadowalk is pretty useless since it breaks if you attack....

A Halfling Cleric with Healing marks?

How Usefull is DDoor? Well, I will be able to solo the Power COnduits inthe Twilight Forge

ANd Teleport? Lets just say my Rogue will burn through 4 or 5 Greater Teleport scrolls sometimes to get back to the Gianthold.....

[Symar-FangofLloth]

I've got a halfling fighter in the works. Going straight fighter, twf, and taking all 3 of the healing marks. This means, if you put full AP into them, you'll get 5 heals, 7 cure serious, and 9 cure lights. Talk about usefulness. Got the feats to spend, as a fighter, too. Maybe a splash of rogue would be useful, but that's not my plan. Going with a decent str as well.

[maddong]

Elven Shadowblade (dpser displacement THF or TWF fighter)
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=116302

Halfling Medic (~800 extra spell points for 6 feats)
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=116108

Dwarven Damage Burster (2376 burst damage from traps on a THF)
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=118235

[moorewr]

Sweet builds! Thanks for the link aggregation.

I like the damage burster - especially in quests where you can control the pace of the fighting... and the Shadowblade, that's darn cool, and he only used 2 feats to get dragon-marked displacement.

Elven Shadowblade (dpser displacement THF or TWF fighter)
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=116302

Halfling Medic (~800 extra spell points for 6 feats)
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=116108

Dwarven Damage Burster (2376 burst damage from traps on a THF)
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=118235

[VonBek]

I've got a halfling fighter in the works. Going straight fighter, twf, and taking all 3 of the healing marks. [...] Going with a decent str as well.

"in the works" may mean you're not ready to share ( and to that I say "NP". But I'm suffficiently curious to ask: 28 or 32 pt? How did you arrange starting stats, and which feats at level one?

I've tinkered with a small band of halflings (rog/rog, rog/wiz, rog/rng) and the least healing mark is quite useful at lowest levels. It'd probably be even more useful if I were reckless These were casual efforts, and I'm still sorting my impressions. I suspect they go a little further on a character with low HP. I'm hoping they scale in usefulness.

[Karethon]

I came up with a battle bard that uses the Mark of Passage.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...22#post1301622

I also had a build for an Elven Paladin the used the Mark of Shadow, mainly for the self displacement. I had planned to build up the strength, and add in the Paladin "hate" enhancement (don't recall the correct name) and the Undying Host faith line. Not sure where I put the print copy, and I seem to have forgotten to save it .

[maddong]

I threw in a blurb about a bard build at the end of my Dwarven Damage Burster.

[Karethon]

I threw in a blurb about a bard build at the end of my Dwarven Damage Burster.

Your Shadowblade looks pretty good, I think the displacement + DPS would be an great combo. I would have concerns about the Dwarven build, though, especially at higher levels. A lot of creatures seem to have evasion and pretty good reflex saves, so you could end up with a bunch of "Save" message and no damage.

[maddong]

Your Shadowblade looks pretty good, I think the displacement + DPS would be an great combo. I would have concerns about the Dwarven build, though, especially at higher levels. A lot of creatures seem to have evasion and pretty good reflex saves, so you could end up with a bunch of "Save" message and no damage.

Yup, that is why I did that post about the bard alternative. You probably need the high charisma mod for elite content.

The shadowblade is awesome. I'm playing a TWF one currently. The displacements are stellar for boss/big fights.

[Gennerik]

The Halfling Dragonmarks are pretty useful, so I also created a Halfling Two-Weapon fighter. She's not quite the beast that the Two-Handed fighter is, but she's not supposed to be. She's still been fun to play.

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Ehrin Ohlidar
Level 14 Lawful Good Halfling Female
(14 Fighter) 
Hit Points: 205
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 14
Will: 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 14)
Strength             12                    18
Dexterity            20                    22
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom               12                    12
Charisma              8                     8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 14)
Balance               5                     6
Bluff                -1                    -1
Concentration         1                     1
Diplomacy            -1                    -1
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                    -1
Heal                  1                     1
Hide                  5                     8
Intimidate            3                    16
Jump                  5                    23
Listen                1                     3
Move Silently         5                     8
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     0
Search                0                     0
Spot                  1                     1
Swim                  1                     4
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I

Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I

Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I

Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) II

Level 5 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II

Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark II

Level 7 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery II

Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) III
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II

Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II

Level 10 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark III

Level 11 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck III

Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III

Level 13 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II

Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark IV

Past this, I plan on getting Blunt Weapon feats as well to help with the stunning blow. Then I'll keep a weighted light bludgeoning weapon in my off-hand and a Pick in my main hand.