Do the devs realize the new Extend Spell change hurts paladins and rangers?

[BUpcott]

Nm, arguing for arguments sake now with people that like to tell others how their character should be built and played.

I am not telling people how to play or build their characters. I am saying don't get upset when there is a change to a feat designed for primary casters that benefits them overall, especially when you are still going to benefit from the purpose of the feat. It was also suggested that if your build is in fact meant to be a melee that it might be a good idea to take more combat oriented feats. I understand there are different builds and appreciate that. (Heck I have a Dwarven Sorcerer, think I have only seen like 1 or 2 others.) But Tavok is the only one who has justified it by saying he tends to throw out a lot of heals and such, rather than saying that he simply wants to save sp.

Because he builds characters different than you do, simple really.

Thanks for pointing that out. Because I couldn't figure that out on my own.

Tavok build makes sense though. He said he usually groups in 3 man groups so the need for him to have the sp for heals and a couple buff makes sense. He also said he will more than likely be grabbing IMT instead now. The added SP is probably going make up for when he has to cast a buff twice. He moaned about the change, sucked it up and dealt with it. He didn't ask Turbine for compensation either. /salute Tavok

[gpk]

I am not telling people how to play or build their characters. I am saying don't get upset when there is a change to a feat designed for primary casters that benefits them overall, especially when you are still going to benefit from the purpose of the feat. It was also suggested that if your build is in fact meant to be a melee that it might be a good idea to take more combat oriented feats. I understand there are different builds and appreciate that. (Heck I have a Dwarven Sorcerer, think I have only seen like 1 or 2 others.) But Tavok is the only one who has justified it by saying he tends to throw out a lot of heals and such, rather than saying that he simply wants to save sp.

Are you freakin kidding me? You sill haven't come up w/ a beter feat from your "list" nad now you're saying Tavok is the only one justified cause he throw out heals and stuff? That's just bad bad logic. *** do you the the rest of us do sit on our wanan be dorf ranger behinds and noh help buff and "such" ? You needed someone to point this out? Where do you think the saved SP goes?

Tavok build makes sense though. He said he usually groups in 3 man groups so the need for him to have the sp for heals and a couple buff makes sense. He also said he will more than likely be grabbing IMT instead now. The added SP is probably going make up for when he has to cast a buff twice. He moaned about the change, sucked it up and dealt with it. He didn't ask Turbine for compensation either. /salute Tavok

I'm stunned, you couln't make the mental leap here again? Most of the time in the small groups I play with late at night there's no cleric no wizard no sorc no "primary caster". Very often there's a paladin and a bard, maybe a ranger here and there and some other class without a blue bar. Again what on earth did you think the SP saved by using extend went to? Keep those Dragonshards coming I'll find some more "Tavoks" out there who all of a sudden you approve of and mail them the shard and the 10k pp you'll send me.

I guess I should thank Tavok for explaining it to you. Now if only someone can find a way of reaching the "break a barrel" and "jealous of my dorf ranger" posters (who hilariously felt the need to include "p*nis" in their rebuttals), on 2nd thought from those posts it's clear that they never were discussinganythign at all.

Good my partition is done cloning, I can go back to the relative intellectually stimulating process that is installling Windows.

[Cowdenicus]

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Did you post that build yet?

[gpk]

Did you post that build yet?

As I've stated before it's irrelevant. You and your BarrelBoy keep going 'round and 'round in flawed logic and skirt around the points and couterpoints asking stupid questions such as this one in an attempt to confuse the issue. Nice try, but it's still irrellevant. You may continue to spew out your flawed logic and keep on dancing and when that failes you may fall back, as you (plural) have done before to your "doooooooom" "break a barrell, "zomg jealous of my ranger" posts in frustration. Keep it up it's still more amusing than cloning partitions and re-installing stuff.

[Cowdenicus]

As I've stated before it's irrelevant. You and your BarrelBoy keep going 'round and 'round in flawed logic and skirt around the points and couterpoints asking stupid questions such as this one in an attempt to confuse the issue. Nice try, but it's still irrellevant. You may continue to spew out your flawed logic and keep on dancing and when that failes you may fall back, as you (plural) have done before to your "doooooooom" "break a barrell, "zomg jealous of my ranger" posts in frustration. Keep it up it's still more amusing than cloning partitions and re-installing stuff.

There is no point here to be had.

I like the new extend, and if it costs a pally or a ranger (and everybody else) 5 more sp to extend a level 1 spell and 3 more sp to extend a level 2 spell, then oh well.