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    Default It must be the game...

    ..so stop playing. Don't ask for suggestions and then refuse to take any. You allreday had decided that it was turbines problem before you even posted the question. The other 1000 of us playing the game ok are obviously miracles. The three or four having problems are certainly indicative of the norm, and it is OBVIOUS that Turbine is the problem. It couldn't possibly be the long-term result of overclocking your system to eek out an unnoticable amount of additional performance. If your processor or a stick of memory is starting to go bad, it will present itself as an error within whatver application happens to be running at the time. Of course, you are a tech, so you allready know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonprophet View Post
    ..so stop playing. Don't ask for suggestions and then refuse to take any. You allreday had decided that it was turbines problem before you even posted the question. The other 1000 of us playing the game ok are obviously miracles. The three or four having problems are certainly indicative of the norm, and it is OBVIOUS that Turbine is the problem. It couldn't possibly be the long-term result of overclocking your system to eek out an unnoticable amount of additional performance. If your processor or a stick of memory is starting to go bad, it will present itself as an error within whatver application happens to be running at the time. Of course, you are a tech, so you allready know that.
    Missed the part where I stated I have gone thru and done every single thing that other have already suggested to no avail PRIOR TO POSTING HERE. I have tested my hardware, at stock and with it OC'd using Prime95, countless games and other benching utilities. Even ran it at stock speeds(FYI, you can notice an increased difference in performance if you know what you are looking for) with one or both cards installed. The error has persisted thru all account to include after a complete system reload. FYI, all my hardware has tested 100% AOK.
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    I'm just about to power up my new Q6600 G0 duo quad core this weekend. I hope this won't be an issue. Any1 else having problems running this game with more then 1 core? I know a lot of people who subscribe to this game seem to be older men who don't spend much time trying to make nice computers. I suspect most are still on single core cpu's. Starting to get a little scared
    On the other hand I have an Dimension 8200 with absolutley no problems playing this but it has a single 2.8ghz cpu.
    The OP is frustrated and people on here should only comment to try their best to help with the situation so that others don't have to experience this as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altumus View Post
    I do not see four people with the same problem as none of you have the same system - there cannot be a resolution to "the problem" as it still has not been identified yet. aheschel first try resetting your graphics options via the launcher. If that does not help then lower the texture resolution ingame (do not have it on very high) and see if you are able to play. You stated yourself that this happens during several hour sessions which could indicate a texture memory issue.

    Xman, try removing 1 gig of memory and then playing in most instances I've found online for errors similar to yours it was a result of either heat issues or memory - doing this as a troubleshooting step may help eliminate other possible causes.

    Thats the only two people I saw that posted concrete information about what was happening with their systems. If you are experiencing issues please start your own thread with your own information and clear description of the symptoms.

    Im going to have chime in on this. I recently went back to WinXP because I too had some Random DDO shutdowns while Loading into Gainthold and a few other places. It was very random, it might happend once in a week or twice in one day.

    Since going back to WinXp I have had no problems, granted I have totally deleted the partion and did a clean install.

    I dont think, its DDO though, I think it has more to do with Vista updates and updated drivers that are causing the problems.

    The first time I had Vista on my computer, when Vista was available to buy, I had virtually no problems. The only problem was slow Frame rates. I then went back to XP for a few weeks, then I installed Vista agian after some needed driver updates and I purchased a BFG 8800GTS OC card that I thought would help with the lower FPS, it did a little.

    I then had Vista on my computer for a extended time and after a few driver updates and a few DDO updates I begain to have the shutdown problem, never had any BSOD, it just shutsdown to to the desktop.

    You are telling people to be more specific, but how? How can We? DxDiag all look good

    The only similiarities are Vista, Dx10, DDO, Net1.1SP1, and few other things I cant think of at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alizan View Post
    I'm just about to power up my new Q6600 G0 duo quad core this weekend. I hope this won't be an issue. Any1 else having problems running this game with more then 1 core? I know a lot of people who subscribe to this game seem to be older men who don't spend much time trying to make nice computers. I suspect most are still on single core cpu's. Starting to get a little scared
    On the other hand I have an Dimension 8200 with absolutley no problems playing this but it has a single 2.8ghz cpu.
    The OP is frustrated and people on here should only comment to try their best to help with the situation so that others don't have to experience this as well.
    I fired up my Athlon x2 a couple weeks ago. I had some issues, but lowering the engine speed in the troubleshooting section of the DDO options menu seems to have solved all my problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NameisToad View Post
    I fired up my Athlon x2 a couple weeks ago. I had some issues, but lowering the engine speed in the troubleshooting section of the DDO options menu seems to have solved all my problems.
    I'll give that a shot to see if it helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altumus View Post
    I do not see four people with the same problem as none of you have the same system - there cannot be a resolution to "the problem" as it still has not been identified yet. aheschel first try resetting your graphics options via the launcher. If that does not help then lower the texture resolution ingame (do not have it on very high) and see if you are able to play. You stated yourself that this happens during several hour sessions which could indicate a texture memory issue.

    Xman, try removing 1 gig of memory and then playing in most instances I've found online for errors similar to yours it was a result of either heat issues or memory - doing this as a troubleshooting step may help eliminate other possible causes.

    Thats the only two people I saw that posted concrete information about what was happening with their systems. If you are experiencing issues please start your own thread with your own information and clear description of the symptoms.

    Altumus,


    Thansk for the help but what do you mean by "aheschel first try resetting your graphics options via the launcher." Really not sure how to do this and any help would be greatly appreciated. I assume you are talking about just detecting obtimal setting in graphics or something of that sort. Could you please give me more clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NameisToad View Post
    I fired up my Athlon x2 a couple weeks ago. I had some issues, but lowering the engine speed in the troubleshooting section of the DDO options menu seems to have solved all my problems.

    I'm still annouyed but the problem seems to have gone away with a combo of reducing my OC from 2.5 to 2.3 and game engine at high instead of very high. No other game that I own or play requires me to do this, so yes I'm annouyed at the programmers of this game who would make it so sensitive to processor OCing. Makes me wonder if they hired joe bloes off the street instead of people who know what in the hell they are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aheschel View Post
    Altumus,


    Thansk for the help but what do you mean by "aheschel first try resetting your graphics options via the launcher." Really not sure how to do this and any help would be greatly appreciated. I assume you are talking about just detecting obtimal setting in graphics or something of that sort. Could you please give me more clarification.

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    When you start the game and are looking at your various characters, in the lower left are tabs. One of them is for graphical settings. Try changing some of the setting to one lower than their current setting or try disabling some of the effects being used by unchecking them. You could also try a combo of this.
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    Is this a heat issue? Try running at same very high settings with your case open with fan on it to see if it fixes the problem. Maybe code that DDO is using isn't efficient and is causing a heat problem with multi core cpu's and or memory modules. What are you're temperatures while running this game? Are they higher then other more demanding games? This would give an idea on how good the program is.

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    One of the things I noticed on several is the GeForce Nvidia 8xxx series.

    These run very hot. I have 5 fans in mine and still get overheating issues with this card with prolonged use. I don't have a resolution for that problem... thought about giving it some ice cream or a frosty pop... but then it'd just get sticky.

    Also be careful when upgrading the nvidia drivers, they have been having some issues with other games I've been playing that seem to resemble some of the ones mentioned here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xman26 View Post
    I'm still annouyed but the problem seems to have gone away with a combo of reducing my OC from 2.5 to 2.3 and game engine at high instead of very high.
    I recently upgraded to a Phenom II 545 Dual Core and an having Client crashes as well. My old 3.0 P4 ran it better.
    I posted here before coming along this thread. http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ighlight=crash
    I just dropped a ton of money on a new gaming rig to play DDO exclusively and all I get is a random crash every 25 minutes or so. I have High Res Cliet and High on Video settings. As many times as I have sent an error report you would think SOMEBODY would have found a solution.

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    I'm new to DDO and I have the same problem concerning the game crashing 20-25 minutes after I have started playing. This has happened every time I have played the game. The game seems to "lock up" if you know what I mean. My character won't move though I can turn him around on the spot and all other movement (meaning all NPC's in the same location) is also frozen.

    I am certainly no computer expert, so I have no idea what to do about the problem. My computer is not a gaming computer, but I haven't had this kind of crash problem with other games. At the moment I also play Metin2 and it runs just fine most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessumsar1 View Post
    I'm new to DDO and I have the same problem concerning the game crashing 20-25 minutes after I have started playing. This has happened every time I have played the game. The game seems to "lock up" if you know what I mean. My character won't move though I can turn him around on the spot and all other movement (meaning all NPC's in the same location) is also frozen.

    I am certainly no computer expert, so I have no idea what to do about the problem. My computer is not a gaming computer, but I haven't had this kind of crash problem with other games. At the moment I also play Metin2 and it runs just fine most of the time.
    What you are experiencing sounds like a LAN or ISP (or Firewall)issue. When you can move (in Place only) yet the game continues to run (not instant crash) means bad bad lag, disconnection or even server issues. The issues that this thread was founded for is the CTD. Crash to desktop.
    I am not a pro, just read alot.

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    I don't know how my mind came up with this (probably because it's pointless) but since you have 2 computers, try moving the turbine folder to a different place and then copy the turbine folder from your other computer in it's place where it's supposed to be in program files. You could try it in both directions and see if you have the same problem, atleast that would answer weather it's the downloaded software doing it or not.

    (you move the turbine folder to a different place so it doesn't get written over and you can put it back when you are done) All this will do though is tell you weather it's an error with part of your downloaded client files.

    (which is I suspect what the problem I am getting with that ****, set to Very High resolution and reboot your software to download the high resolution patch error that I keep getting when I start the game)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xman26 View Post
    And The First Person Who Says To Unoc My Rig Deserves To Get Slapped And Punched.
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    if I Hear More Time It Might Be My Hardware I'll Nuke Turbine Headquaters
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    That Alone Should Tell Anyone With Atleast 1 Active Brain Cell It Isn't My Hardware Causing The Problem But The Software Itself.
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    the Problem Seems To Have Gone Away With A Combo Of Reducing My Oc From 2.5 To 2.3 And Game Engine At High Instead Of Very High.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorby View Post
    Lol
    Funny huh? Wann here something Funnier. With Game speed set to max and My Q6600 at 3.6Ghz I don't get the issues I posted about way back when with that AMD setup. Hows that for LOL. And I still contest it was game code that cause the **** issue back then. I still find it hard to believe that Crysis coud take the X2 at 2.5 but DDO couldn't.
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    Default DDO Cient Crashed

    I am getting the same problem as well. It started around Mod 5. I have the ATI 4650 which I installed about 4 months ago. I also recently updated all my drivers and Direct X and Windows just to make sure... (after I started crashing) My system crashes randomly from 10 minute to 2 hour intervals. It only does it on DDO (so far) and every so often it will crash my whole system but usually just the DDO Client crashes. Its starting to get pretty frustrating and was out of the blue. Last night I was on for about 4 hours and my DDO Client crashed about 8 times and my system once. I updated all the drivers again about 3 am - 4 am, then logged into ddo again, and the DDO Client crahsed in the first 3 minutes.....

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    Same problem. Started happening after update 5. Was only occasional. Then it happened tonight non-stop.
    Been playing on same computer system 7 months. Upgraded to quadcore, OCing, two video cards, I think three fans, custom built compy.

    Was in the game ten minutes. Joined a Shroud run. Crashed with error "dndclient error" within ten minutes of shroud. For the next hour, once game entirely loaded, reading to start attacking, got the error and game crashed. Crashed maybe 10 times? Could type out one sentence in party chat before it crashed. Was dropped from raid - no effect.

    Read the forums. Read this thread and others. And did a lot of what was recommended.
    First checked my system.
    Ran all virus, malware, spyware, etc scanners. Nothing.
    Disc Defrag was 0% so didn't bother running.
    Cleared internet cache for giggles.
    Everything running clean and going fine. No spikes in usage. Nothing overheating. No ram issues.
    Shut down and restarted compy several times throughout entire process, waiting a minute or two between each restart. I'm patient.

    Did was various threads said to try.

    1) Disabled DirectX10. Fail.
    2) Unplugged headsets. Fail.
    3) Lowered all graphic settings from highest (which it has been on for two months, as recently as last night, and no problems) to high. Fail.
    4) Another thread said check firewall settings. fiddled with those to include public. Fail.
    5) Lowered engine speed to medium with graphic settings still on high. Fail.
    6) Lowered all graphics to lowest setting possible. Win.


    So now I can play DDO... but everything looks like a blocky watercolor painting.

    So... will play around with graphic settings to get to a level that is bearable but won't make system crash.
    Thoughts about why this is happening? In reading threads, appears to be happening after updates and to high performance machines seem to be the ones most affected.

    I'm not a computer geek, so layman's terms please. Thank you!

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    Did you try restricting your frame rate in troubleshooting? Try setting it to 30 fps. It will look pretty bad but will be putting less stress on your gfx card which could be causing your issues. Up to you if you try it or not.

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