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    Default str based two handed fighting 1barb/13rogue

    what do you think




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    Level 14 Chaotic Good Human Male
    (1 Barbarian \ 13 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 145
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 10\10\15\20
    Fortitude: 7
    Reflex: 10
    Will: 3
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 14)
    Strength             18                    22
    Dexterity            12                    14
    Constitution         12                    12
    Intelligence         10                    10
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             14                    14
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 14)
    Balance               5                     6
    Bluff                 6                     8
    Concentration         1                     1
    Diplomacy             2                     2
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                2                     2
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  1                     6
    Intimidate            2                     2
    Jump                  4                     6
    Listen               -1                    -1
    Move Silently         1                     6
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                0                     0
    Search                0                     0
    Spot                 -1                    -1
    Swim                  4                     6
    Tumble                n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Stunning Blow
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 3 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost III
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber I
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber II
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber III
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
    Enhancement: Way of the Assassin I
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide I
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide II
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently I
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently II
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I

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    maybe take out rogue sneak attack accuracy 3
    +1 to hit for 6 action points not worth it im thinkin
    Last edited by Reisei; 08-10-2007 at 11:37 AM.

    Reisei - LVL16 Cleric - Ghallanda
    Quote Originally Posted by Devacore
    It takes a patient person to be a cleric in the end.
    Patient, or clueless?

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    instead of sneak attack acc i could get human improve recovery 2 and faster sneaking 2

    Reisei - LVL16 Cleric - Ghallanda
    Quote Originally Posted by Devacore
    It takes a patient person to be a cleric in the end.
    Patient, or clueless?

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    i should have probably explained the build a bit more. its supposed to deal a bunch of damage and stuff i guess low ac okay attack roll diplomacy to get the aggro off of me 40% less hate is also helps i like using greataxes cause of stunning blow also if you couldnt tell by now i dnot do traps or anything and i forgot to put the skills in high umd, diplomacy and bluff also although i think diplo is better than bluff in every way just experimenting, move silently and hide of course tumble for the hell of it cause tumbling is fun might as well put stuff into haggle only put a few points into jump with the jump spell its +30 and 40 is the max so theres no point dump the rest into heal

    Reisei - LVL16 Cleric - Ghallanda
    Quote Originally Posted by Devacore
    It takes a patient person to be a cleric in the end.
    Patient, or clueless?

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    well, i don't want to tell you how to play or what to do...

    but if you want to go 13 levels into rogue you should seriously consider having the ability to find and disarm traps and open doors.

    on the other hand, if all you want to do is sick damage and 2hand a greataxe, i'd recommend barbarian. you'll have full bab, way more HP, some damage reduction, and then focus your feats on power attack, THF, and Imp Crit slashing.

    If you're determined to do this build, i'd seriously think about UMD'ing stoneskin scrolls (31 umd would never fail the roll) for some DR.
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    1st: Please, for all that is sneaky, use punctuation

    2nd: Since you aren't going to be the "trapsmith" type Rogue, why not dump INT? You'd still get 7 skill points per level, which isn't too shabby. That will still allow you to max the skills you want, or come close to it. Also, you can get a decent UMD with just a 10-12 Charisma. Right now, the biggest downfall of this build would be the low CON. I'd drop INT and CHA a few points, and put them into CON.

    3rd: Forget about bluff, and take diplomacy. As you stated, Diplomacy is better than bluff.

    4th: Don't forget about balance. It is extremely important, IMO, for any charcter.

    The skills you should focus on, since you don't want to do traps, are the following:

    Primary (should be maxed)
    UMD
    Diplomacy
    Jump
    Balance

    Secondary (max if possible)
    Hide
    Move Silently
    Haggle
    Tumble

    Personally, I'd never make a Rogue that can't disable or open locks. I don't see the point. This is the 1st game where Rogues have more to do than "stand behind the mob and backstab". As Rentz stated, if all you want is DPS, make a Barbarian.

    However, if you should decide to stick with Rogue, I'd recommend taking a gander at my "Second Rate" character (Warforged Rogue-adin), in my signature. That build should provide you with the DPS you want, and still allow you to keep the disarming ability of the Rogue. (If you want to do both)
    Last edited by Roguewiz; 08-10-2007 at 12:51 PM.
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    +5 greataxe
    normal damage
    1d12+15+10+5+7d6+8
    minimum-31+15=46
    maximum-42+50=92

    46-92

    critical hits

    minimum-93+15=108
    maximum-126+50=176

    108-176

    Reisei - LVL16 Cleric - Ghallanda
    Quote Originally Posted by Devacore
    It takes a patient person to be a cleric in the end.
    Patient, or clueless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reisei View Post

    +5 greataxe
    normal damage
    1d12+15+10+5+7d6+8
    minimum-31+15=46
    maximum-42+50=92

    46-92

    critical hits

    minimum-93+15=108
    maximum-126+50=176

    108-176
    remember the 7d6 only applies to sneak attack dmg so a great axe is not necessarily your best sneak attack weapon as you wil have to circle the outside of the mob hitting only one target, gett oo close and glancing blows will turn mobs on you that aren't already getting a beat down from a fighter, with a low AC and HP diplomacy must be very high and if you are on your timer could be deadly. If you are going str based a khopesh might work better and allow you to use a shield while avoiding all the glancing blows of a 2 handed weapon. Also if you gain aggro that 40% less hate goes away as well. A heavy fort item will be a necessity as you will be easily one shotted at high levels without it. Also a dwarf or warforged might be better suited to this build
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    actually according to the enhancement description the %40 less hate affects all melee attacks

    Reisei - LVL16 Cleric - Ghallanda
    Quote Originally Posted by Devacore
    It takes a patient person to be a cleric in the end.
    Patient, or clueless?

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