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[unbongwah]

1. monk dps/survivability build a reaper type monk build. you can multiclass if this make it a better build im looking for what you think is the best of the best for reaper monk

2. fighter dps/survivability build in heavy armor reaper type fighter build. you can multiclass if this make it a better build im looking for what you think is the best of the best for reaper heavy armor fighter

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[Tilomere]

That soundburst build is styling Unbongwah!

Ok, so I need a caster build that deals (high reaper level) dps for Damonzz. Got an idea for aasimar or aasimar scourge DC casting pure barb, con + wisdom based, ultimate completionist + tomes, using mass frog + visage + healing hands + wisdom to hit/dmg. Ideas on fleshing it out as THF vs. twf?

Thinking TWF with heavy warfare set is higher boss dps if we instant kill the trash.

[noobodyfool]

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...per-optimized)
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...asimar-Fighter

Thanks Unbongwah who do you think would win in a fight ?

[unbongwah]

Ok, so I need a caster build that deals (high reaper level) dps for Damonzz. Got an idea for aasimar or aasimar scourge DC casting pure barb, con + wisdom based, ultimate completionist + tomes, using mass frog + visage + healing hands + wisdom to hit/dmg. Ideas on fleshing it out as THF vs. twf?

Thinking TWF with heavy warfare set is higher boss dps if we instant kill the trash.

Why pure barb? Why not Scourge rgr 6 / cleric 14 (War domain)? Take your 14/5/1 toon and swap the FvS splash for an extra rgr lvl (don't need Div Will w/Falconry). Something like 17 Scourge (DotD) / 40 Tempest (tier-5s) / 27 Falconry (No Mercy etc.). That's "only" 4 extra racial APs, I'm sure you must have twice that by now. Mass Frog -> <Soundburst | Dire Charge> the survivors -> DoD + TC vs trash mobs.

EDIT: ah I see you want two AoE instakills - Visage of Terror + Mass Frog. Well VoT is CON-based while MF is WIS-based and I have a hard enough time get one DC stat high enough to be useful let alone two so good luck with that.

[Tilomere]

Ahh ... I got it figured out. It's gonna be epic. Two stat DC casting is easy. Especially when one of the stats is Con where you will bump it up anyways on any build. It's adding in damage on top where it gets tricksy hobbity.

But I have that figured out as well.

[unbongwah]

The Genasi are planetouched humans with elemental affinities. We don't have Genasi in DDO, of course, but we do have Aasimar and druids get elemental forms, so consider this a "homebrew" Genasi.

The important part is requester wanted a druid 15 / monk 5 build using handwraps. They have Falconry and a +7 Supreme tome, so that lets us go all-in on a WIS-based build.

EDIT: tweaked build

Shintao Falconer Genasi
15/5 Druid/Monk
Lawful Neutral Aasimar




Level Order


1. Druid           6. Druid          11. Monk           16. Druid
2. Monk            7. Druid          12. Monk           17. Druid
3. Monk            8. Druid          13. Druid          18. Druid
4. Druid           9. Druid          14. Druid          19. Druid
5. Druid          10. Monk           15. Druid          20. Druid




Stats
               36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength         8       +7       4: WIS
Dexterity       12       +7       8: WIS
Constitution    18       +7      12: WIS
Intelligence     8       +7      16: WIS
Wisdom          20       +7      20: WIS
Charisma         8       +7      24: WIS
                                 28: WIS


Skills
          D  M  M  D  D  D  D  D  D  M  M  M  D  D  D  D  D  D  D  D
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Concent   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Heal      4        3  1  1  1  1  1           4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spellcr   4           2  2  2  1  1              3  3  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spot            1           1           4  2        1  1  1  1  1  3  16
UMD          1  1              1  1  2     1           1  1  1  1     11
Tumble       1                                                         1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
         12  4  4  4  4  4  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  6  6  6  6  6  6




Feats


 1        : Quicken Spell
 2 Monk   : Stunning Fist
 3        : Precision
 3 Monk   : Two Weapon Fighting
 6        : Adept of Forms
 9        : Maximize Spell
12        : Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
15        : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
18        : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
20 Swap   : Spell Focus: Evocation replaces Maximize Spell
21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic   : Burst of Glacial Wrath
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic   : Master of Forms OR Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Mass Frog
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic   : Grandmaster of Forms OR Empower Healing Spell
30 Legend : Scion of: Astral Plane OR Plane of Air


 1 Aasimar: Bond of the Fallen


10 Monk   : Path of Harmonious Balance


 4 Druid  : Wild Shape 1: Wolf
 7 Druid  : Wild Shape 1: Bear
13 Druid  : Wild Shape 2: Winter Wolf
16 Druid  : Wild Shape 2: Dire Bear
18 Druid  : Wild Shape 3: Fire Elemental OR Water Elemental




Enhancements (80+12 AP)


Shintao (34 AP)
Bastion of Purity, Protection from Tainted Creatures
Difficulty at the Beginning, Deft Strikes III
Lifting the Veil, Smite Tainted Creature, Iron Skin III, Knock on the Sky, Conditioning III
Restoring the Balance, Jade Strike, Dismissing Strike, Wisdom
The Receptive Earth, Tomb of Jade, Instinctive Defense I, Wisdom
Empty Hand Mastery, Violence Begets Violence

Falconry (28 AP)
Falcon, Wisdom
Hunter's Knowledge, Out in Nature III
Killer Instinct I, Diving Strike III, Sprint Boost I
Killer Instinct II, Strike for the Eyes: Strike III, Conditioning
Deadly Instinct III, No Mercy III, Coordinated Strike, Expose Weakness

Aasimar (12 AP)
Stronger Bonds, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds II, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds III
Improved Recovery
Divine Purpose
Divine Charge II

Nature's Warrior (12 AP)
Natural Adept, Nature's Senses
Extra Wild Empathy II, Beastial Nature II
Flight I, Double Strike Boost III
Prey on the Weak II

Nature's Protector (6 AP)
Nature's Protector, Nature's Defense
Enchanted Defense III, Fey's Blessing I



Destiny (24 AP)


Legendary Dreadnought
Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III, Attack Boost I
Damage Boost III
Critical Damage III, Haste Boost III
(none)
Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
Master's Blitz, Pulverizer

Twists of Fate (35 fate points)
Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
Balanced Attacks (Tier 3 Primal)
School Specialist: Evocation (Tier 2 Magister)
Dance of Flowers (Tier 1 Flowers)
Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)

Prey on the Weak, No Mercy, Sense Weakness, and Combat Brute should stack together for 15% + 30% + 30% + 50% = +125% helpless damage on top of the usual +50% helpless damage. This build gets Stunning Fist, Balanced Attacks (knockdown on vorpal), BoGW, and Dire Charge, all of which cause helplessness. As an added bonus, it also has Earthquake for extra CC and Mass Frog for lulz. Caster DPS isn't a significant contributor, but you can use Body of the Sun, Firewall, etc. as well; or the ice equivalents if you choose water elemental form.

Single-target CC (helpless): Stunning Fist, Salt Ray, Tomb of Jade, Hunting Bird attacks, Balanced Attacks (vorpal KD)
AoE CC (helpless): Coordinated Strike, BoGW, Dire Charge
AoE CC (no helpless): Sleet Storm, Earthquake
AoE "instakill": Mass Frog

The extra racial APs are optional; you can drop points from either Aasimar or Nature's Warrior.

[Tilomere]

Prey on the Weak, No Mercy, Sense Weakness, and Combat Brute should stack together for 15% + 30% + 30% + 50% = +125% helpless damage on top of the usual +50% helpless damage. This build gets Stunning Fist, Balanced Attacks (knockdown on vorpal), BoGW, and Dire Charge, all of which cause helplessness. As an added bonus, it also has Earthquake for extra CC and Mass Frog for lulz. Caster DPS isn't a significant contributor, but you can use Body of the Sun, Firewall, etc. as well; or the ice equivalents if you choose water elemental form.

Ohohohoo! It also gets Salt Ray and Tomb of Jade as well!

[soulrage]

The Genasi are planetouched humans with elemental affinities. We don't have Genasi in DDO, of course, but we do have Aasimar and druids get elemental forms, so consider this a "homebrew" Genasi.

The important part is requester wanted a druid 15 / monk 5 build using handwraps. They have Falconry and a +7 Supreme tome, so that lets us go all-in on a WIS-based build.

EDIT: tweaked build

Shintao Falconer Genasi
15/5 Druid/Monk
Lawful Neutral Aasimar




Level Order


1. Druid           6. Druid          11. Monk           16. Druid
2. Monk            7. Druid          12. Monk           17. Druid
3. Monk            8. Druid          13. Druid          18. Druid
4. Druid           9. Druid          14. Druid          19. Druid
5. Druid          10. Monk           15. Druid          20. Druid




Stats
               36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength         8       +7       4: WIS
Dexterity       12       +7       8: WIS
Constitution    18       +7      12: WIS
Intelligence     8       +7      16: WIS
Wisdom          20       +7      20: WIS
Charisma         8       +7      24: WIS
                                 28: WIS


Skills
          D  M  M  D  D  D  D  D  D  M  M  M  D  D  D  D  D  D  D  D
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Concent   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Heal      4        3  1  1  1  1  1           4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spellcr   4           2  2  2  1  1              3  3  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spot            1           1           4  2        1  1  1  1  1  3  16
UMD          1  1              1  1  2     1           1  1  1  1     11
Tumble       1                                                         1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
         12  4  4  4  4  4  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  6  6  6  6  6  6




Feats


 1        : Quicken Spell
 2 Monk   : Stunning Fist
 3        : Precision
 3 Monk   : Two Weapon Fighting
 6        : Adept of Forms
 9        : Maximize Spell
12        : Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
15        : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
18        : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
20 Swap   : Spell Focus: Evocation replaces Maximize Spell
21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic   : Burst of Glacial Wrath
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic   : Master of Forms OR Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Mass Frog
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic   : Grandmaster of Forms OR Empower Healing Spell
30 Legend : Scion of: Astral Plane OR Plane of Air


 1 Aasimar: Bond of the Fallen


10 Monk   : Path of Harmonious Balance


 4 Druid  : Wild Shape 1: Wolf
 7 Druid  : Wild Shape 1: Bear
13 Druid  : Wild Shape 2: Winter Wolf
16 Druid  : Wild Shape 2: Dire Bear
18 Druid  : Wild Shape 3: Fire Elemental OR Water Elemental




Enhancements (80+12 AP)


Shintao (34 AP)
Bastion of Purity, Protection from Tainted Creatures
Difficulty at the Beginning, Deft Strikes III
Lifting the Veil, Smite Tainted Creature, Iron Skin III, Knock on the Sky, Conditioning III
Restoring the Balance, Jade Strike, Dismissing Strike, Wisdom
The Receptive Earth, Tomb of Jade, Instinctive Defense I, Wisdom
Empty Hand Mastery, Violence Begets Violence

Falconry (28 AP)
Falcon, Wisdom
Hunter's Knowledge, Out in Nature III
Killer Instinct I, Diving Strike III, Sprint Boost I
Killer Instinct II, Strike for the Eyes: Strike III, Conditioning
Deadly Instinct III, No Mercy III, Coordinated Strike, Expose Weakness

Aasimar (12 AP)
Stronger Bonds, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds II, Wisdom, Stronger Bonds III
Improved Recovery
Divine Purpose
Divine Charge II

Nature's Warrior (12 AP)
Natural Adept, Nature's Senses
Extra Wild Empathy II, Beastial Nature II
Flight I, Double Strike Boost III
Prey on the Weak II

Nature's Protector (6 AP)
Nature's Protector, Nature's Defense
Enchanted Defense III, Fey's Blessing I



Destiny (24 AP)


Legendary Dreadnought
Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III, Attack Boost I
Damage Boost III
Critical Damage III, Haste Boost III
(none)
Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
Master's Blitz, Pulverizer

Twists of Fate (35 fate points)
Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
Balanced Attacks (Tier 3 Primal)
School Specialist: Evocation (Tier 2 Magister)
Dance of Flowers (Tier 1 Flowers)
Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)

Prey on the Weak, No Mercy, Sense Weakness, and Combat Brute should stack together for 15% + 30% + 30% + 50% = +125% helpless damage on top of the usual +50% helpless damage. This build gets Stunning Fist, Balanced Attacks (knockdown on vorpal), BoGW, and Dire Charge, all of which cause helplessness. As an added bonus, it also has Earthquake for extra CC and Mass Frog for lulz. Caster DPS isn't a significant contributor, but you can use Body of the Sun, Firewall, etc. as well; or the ice equivalents if you choose water elemental form.

Single-target CC (helpless): Stunning Fist, Salt Ray, Tomb of Jade, Hunting Bird attacks, Balanced Attacks (vorpal KD)
AoE CC (helpless): Coordinated Strike, BoGW, Dire Charge
AoE CC (no helpless): Sleet Storm, Earthquake
AoE "instakill": Mass Frog

The extra racial APs are optional; you can drop points from either Aasimar or Nature's Warrior.

Thank you so much man. This will be a blast to run next life. I appreciate it.

[ccd1977]

Very nice. Where would you fit in completionist Unbongwah?

Do you have Falconry? I was thinking WIS-based PDK cleric 14 / ftr 6: Animal Domain for Feral Charge (DC is based on WIS); tier-5 Kensei for melee DPS; tier-4 Falconry for No Mercy, bird attacks, etc.; rest into Stalwart D. for defensive stance etc.

EDIT: first stab at what I was thinking about.

PDK Silvanus Falconer
14/6 Cleric/Fighter
True Neutral Purple Dragon Knight




Level Order


1. Fighter         6. Cleric         11. Fighter        16. Cleric
2. Cleric          7. Cleric         12. Fighter        17. Cleric
3. Cleric          8. Cleric         13. Fighter        18. Cleric
4. Cleric          9. Cleric         14. Fighter        19. Cleric
5. Cleric         10. Cleric         15. Fighter        20. Cleric




Stats
               36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength        13       +4       4: WIS
Dexterity       10       +3       8: WIS
Constitution    17       +3      12: WIS
Intelligence     8       +4      16: WIS
Wisdom          18       +3      20: WIS
Charisma         8       +3      24: WIS
                                 28: WIS


Feats


 1        : Power Attack
 1 PDK    : Cleave
 1 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
 3        : Two Handed Fighting
 6        : Great Cleave
 9        : Improved Two Handed Fighting
11 Fighter: Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
12        : Quicken Spell
13 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning
15        : Precision
15 Fighter: Greater Two Handed Fighting
18        : Spell Focus: Evocation
21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic   : Burst of Glacial Wrath
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic   : Empower Healing Spell
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea OR Plane of Air


 3 Cleric : Animal Domain


 2 Deity  : Follower of: Silvanus
 7 Deity  : Blessing of Silvanus




Enhancements (80 AP)


Kensei (33 AP)
Kensei Focus: Picks and Hammers, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought
Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost III
Weapon Group Specialization, Ascetic Training: Conditioning III
Critical Mastery III, Weapon Group Specialization, Shattering Strike I
Opportunity Attack, Liquid Courage, Strike at the Heart
One with the Blade, Deadly Strike, Keen Edge

Falconry (31 AP)
Falcon, Wisdom, Well Rounded, Wisdom, Well Rounded II
Hunter's Knowledge, Out in Nature III
Killer Instinct I, Diving Strike III, Sprint Boost I
Killer Instinct II, Strike for the Eyes: Strike II, Conditioning
Deadly Instinct III, No Mercy III, Coordinated Strike, Expose Weakness

Stalwart Defender (13 AP)
Toughness, Stalwart Defense
Item Defense I, Durable Defense III
Resilient Defense III, Instinctive Defense I
Tenacious Defense III

Purple Dragon Knight (3 AP)
Damage Boost
Improved Recovery



Destiny (24 AP)


Legendary Dreadnought
Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III
Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack, Damage Boost III
Lay Waste
(none)
Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
Master's Blitz, Pulverizer

Twists of Fate (35 fate points)
Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
School Specialist: Evocation (Tier 2 Magister)
Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)

You wanted Soundburst, Tilomere? Well, here it is again...

EDIT: this build would also work with Earth domain instead if you'd rather have Earthquake SLA instead of Feral Charge. Though you also lose 15% Fortification bypass from lvl 9 Animal domain feat so expect melee DPS to take a hit.

[unbongwah]

Where would you fit in completionist Unbongwah?

Probably by dropping Empower Heal or Epic DR - whichever you think is less important.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

Okay, below this section are the lyrics..... this build is one my wife wants to play so multiclassing woulod be okay I suppose.

She needs to have a constant fire shield

She needs to be relatively dark skinned

She needs to have extremely high social skills

Her main means of attacking needs to be through charmed minions.

Ideally she'd be equipped with a dagger that allows her to summon a Succubus (legendary greensteel)

__________________________________________________ _________________________

[Intro: Shocking Blue]
A godness on a mountain top
Was burning like a silver flame
The summit of beauty and love
And Venus was her name

She's got it
Yeah, baby, she's got it
Well, I'm your Venus
I'm your fire, at your desire
Well, I'm your Venus
I'm your fire, at your desire

[Bridge: Shocking Blue]
Her weapons were her crystal eyes
Making every man mad
Black as the dark night she was
Got what no-one else had
WoW!

She's got it
Yeah, baby, she's got it
Well, I'm your Venus
I'm your fire, at your desire
Well, I'm your Venus
I'm your fire, at your desire

Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah!
Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah!

She's got it
Yeah, baby, she's got it
Well, I'm your Venus
I'm your fire, at your desire
Well, I'm your Venus
I'm your fire, at your desire

[niceanjiggly]

Hey, am looking for a possible build for a Pally life. Was thinking Dwarf Hammer/Pike & Board. Toon is Epic Completionist, has +6 Supreme Tome and access to Falconry if needed.
Past lives inc: 3xBard; 2xSorc & 1 each of FvS, Cleric, Fighter, Rogue, Druid, Barb, Ranger, Monk, Warlock , Wiz. 3 Iconic PL's BF, PDK & Deep Gnome once each.
Am Open to other suggestions, and am not married to my original concept but I have never run a heavy armour/shield build before. I am not a great fan of Melee Classes but they need doing!! Mainly run Solo or Duo, so survivability /DPS mix important.

Thanks In Advance

[Uberepic]

Hi, I used to play this game a long time ago, and a lot has changed. I never really got very far and right now I am playing with a few friends. I want to be a wizard and I really like the idea of being an eldritch knight. The pale master also seems really cool, is there any easy way to incorporate the two? Also, I don't really know what spells are good.

[C-Dog]

... I want to be a wizard and I really like the idea of being an eldritch knight. The pale master also seems really cool, is there any easy way to incorporate the two? ...

Hrmm... the Eldritch Knight tree is one of the weaker trees currently. It's doable (altho' more as a flavor build), but, generally speaking, not something that's strongly recommended.

Would a weapon-using Pale Master, but one that doesn't rely heavily on the EK tree, be acceptable? Also, how heavily would you be willing to dip out of Wizard to achieve this mix?


Without editing good/bad/indifferent/outdated, here are some links I've saved - HOWEVER, some are older, and some are simply inferior - others can tell you better which are still viable, and/or are salvageable w/ some updates.

o Gish https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5850691
& x3+ https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6052392
& https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5850691
& https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5935962
& https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5908841
o 1st Life GISH https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...r-First-Lifers
o https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5829445
o Gishes https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6021260
& https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6061730

[Uberepic]

I would be fine using more of a weapon pale master with just a couple enhancements from eldritch knight since it isn't very good. I would be fine dipping out of wizard as long as it will still work well. I was also thinking of doing drow as the race, the extra intelligence should be good right? I like the idea of the wraith blade, what are the main differences between having 2 levels of rogue vs 2 levels of monk? I would also definitely like to get at least some splash of wizard in the first 4 levels or so rather than do something like six levels of fighter then 14 levels of wizard.

[C-Dog]

I've never run a Gish (in DDO - D&D is a separate discussion ), so was hoping someone would either chime in w/ the Voice of Experience, or use those links to suggest a definitively modern build.

However, I do know the simple theory - and this is a key part:

When deciding how to go, remember that the deeper you splash from pure Wizard, the more your offensive DC's will suffer. So while Wiz 18 can make DC-dependent spells work (usually, ahem), Wiz 12 builds/etc. are relying far more on buffs (and possibly SLA's, which are usually char-level based) rather than blastem spells. Web is a waste of time if everyone walks right thru it.

I would be fine using more of a weapon pale master with just a couple enhancements from eldritch knight since it isn't very good.

There are some low-hanging EK choices that are nice - it's just that chasing the tree to Tier 5 (or even 4) is AP that could be better spent elsewhere.

I was also thinking of doing drow as the race, the extra intelligence should be good right?

Drow for +1 DC and access to cheap/additional* Armor ASF reduction, Human for +1 Feat and 2 AP HAMP enhancement. Dealer's choice.

(* EK has some too.)

I like the idea of the wraith blade, what are the main differences between having 2 levels of rogue vs 2 levels of monk?

Rogue = Trapping, Monk = +2 ("Martial Arts") Feats. Both = +Evasion.

o http://ddowiki.com/page/Martial_arts_feats

Also, Monk is not F2P, which is a dealbreaker for many.

I would also definitely like to get at least some splash of wizard in the first 4 levels or so rather than do something like six levels of fighter then 14 levels of wizard.

Those are either 1) optimized for Level 20, or 2) a quick-and-dirty (read "lazy") spread of the classes. (Usually speading diff classes out helps Skills, but since the only thing Fighter can contribute is Jump - which you only need a few ranks in - or Intimidate or Swim - which, yeah - I don't think that matters here.)

The only reason to force-feed early Fighter is 1) to make BAB for a certain martial Feat, or 2) to grab higher-Tier Fighter enhancements asap. Without grinding the build level by level (read "lazy"), I'd think that grabbing some Wizard early shouldn't hurt, and things like Jump/Shield could help a lot.


Use a character planner to confirm that all the Feats still work, and you should be good to go:

o https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5534437

[Tilomere]

suggest a definitively modern build.

Wizard gets 4 sources of AoE helpless to synergy with melee damage. Mass hold, color spray, burst of glacial wrath, and dire charge. In a modern build, only color spray arrives early enough to build around, and only dire charge has DCs high enough for all legendary content. Since color spray is only available by gnome racial SLA but is good enough until epics, modern builds entirely dump wizard.

[C-Dog]

Wizard gets 4 sources of AoE helpless to synergy with melee damage...
...modern builds entirely dump wizard.

Is this a roundabout way of saying that (in your opinion) the build won't work? That modern wizard gish builds dump wizard?

[Hasacz]

Hi,

I was thinking about building Artificer using Renegade Mastermaker enhancements. The idea for this character is to be tanky, supportive, stunning unbreakable wall.

Since I do not have warforged race I was thinking about dwarf. Requirements for the build:

-Dwarven waraxe profiniency (I am not sure if I need a feat for that)
-Heavy armor user
-Int to damage (12 points in Harper tree - I guess that's reasonable)

I am not sure about feat choices (maybe single weapon fighting line? precision or power attack? dragonmark?) or enhancements worth taking from other trees. Maybe we can squeeze 20 points in dwarf for dwarf fortress and dwarven tactics?

My character has 6 past lives, all ability tomes +2.

Thanks for ideas!

[ElrondElfKing]

Hi all. I'd like to request a build for the character described above. I'd like max dps and max AC with a splash of rogue for disabling traps. I was thinking dwarf for +2 CON and their inherent good balance. If I'm not in a group, I'll always have a cleric hireling for healing, so maybe dps is more important to me than AC. I love THF so that's a must. WIS and CHA can be dump stats. I'm thinking to max STR and CON, with a mix of DEX for balance and INT for search and disable traps. Any suggestions gladly accepted. I tried searching the archives, but couldn't find a good match. Thanks!