Request a Build - Get a Build

[ccd1977]

I am looking for a good S&B build tanky that can keep up with some fighters out there. I am thinking Holy Sword/Zeal will help with single weapoin fighting speeds. I don't plan on making this a full time healer but more of the type of healing Axels Cleric build is with burst healing and aura. Past lives areBarb, Bard, fighter, monk, pala, war, BF, PDK and Shadar-kai.Tomes: +5 to everything.Race does not matter but bent toward move non-iconic.Thanks,

[unbongwah]

I am looking for a good S&B build tanky that can keep up with some fighters out there. I am thinking Holy Sword/Zeal will help with single weapoin fighting speeds. I don't plan on making this a full time healer but more of the type of healing Axels Cleric build is with burst healing and aura.

Your title says "cleric 15 / pal 4 / ftr 1" but you list Holy Sword + Zeal, which would mean pal 15. Which is it?

Pal 15 / cleric or FvS 4 / ftr 1 sounds a lot like Steel Shrine, although Infiltraitor abandoned it when Reaper mode came out.

[ccd1977]

Dang your right on the Pal 15 for holy sword. OK. I was the steel shrine and it looks awesome but the abandonment issue scares me to try it due to it being outdated. I took inspiration from your S&B build and want the burst and aura of the cleric.

Your title says "cleric 15 / pal 4 / ftr 1" but you list Holy Sword + Zeal, which would mean pal 15. Which is it?Pal 15 / cleric or FvS 4 / ftr 1 sounds a lot like Steel Shrine, although Infiltraitor abandoned it when Reaper mode came out.

[ccd1977]

Dang your right on the Pal 15 for holy sword. OK. I was the steel shrine and it looks awesome but the abandonment issue scares me to try it due to it being outdated. I took inspiration from your S&B build and want the burst and aura of the cleric.

In otherwords, I am looking for dps with the aura and burst but in S&B tank. Reaper is not all that important to me.

[unbongwah]

In otherwords, I am looking for dps with the aura and burst but in S&B tank.

It depends on how generously you define "DPS" and "tank," then, because it's tough enough to come up with a paladin or fighter Vanguard which does well at both, much less can act as a party healer as well. You're talking a minimum of 32 AP into Radiant Servant for aura, which means a max of 48 for your PrEs; it also means giving up the tier-5 melee PrE abilities, which hurts your DPS further.

I could see making a super-sturdy S&B healer who can also do some "lite" hate-tanking; but I don't see a way to make a credible DPS build as well.

[ccd1977]

It depends on how generously you define "DPS" and "tank," then, because it's tough enough to come up with a paladin or fighter Vanguard which does well at both, much less can act as a party healer as well. You're talking a minimum of 32 AP into Radiant Servant for aura, which means a max of 48 for your PrEs; it also means giving up the tier-5 melee PrE abilities, which hurts your DPS further.I could see making a super-sturdy S&B healer who can also do some "lite" hate-tanking; but I don't see a way to make a credible DPS build as well.

ok. I see what you are saying then. Basically it comes down to DPS vs sturdiness I take it? I really just want to jump in the middle of the action, burst/aura and participate in killing then. I don't need to be THAT GUY on DPS but would really like to get a sick Aura going like a healing fountain. If I cannot be the tank then as long as I can hang in there I am good. I can care a less bout casting if casting takes from anything on the melee end.

[unbongwah]

I really just want to jump in the middle of the action, burst/aura and participate in killing then. I don't need to be THAT GUY on DPS but would really like to get a sick Aura going like a healing fountain. If I cannot be the tank then as long as I can hang in there I am good. I can care a less bout casting if casting takes from anything on the melee end.

Well, now you're wrapping back around to "just use Axel's build," unless there's something specific about it you want to improve; or more precisely, what are you willing to sacrifice to have better melee DPS?

[ccd1977]

Well, now you're wrapping back around to "just use Axel's build," unless there's something specific about it you want to improve; or more precisely, what are you willing to sacrifice to have better melee DPS?

Yeah. I guess uour right. thx for the brainstormin.

[phillymiket]

nvm carry on

[GarGwill]

Hello, fairly new player here.

I'm looking for a Half-elf Swashbuckler, pure or multiclass. I like melee rather than spell casting, ranged for smashables & hard to get mobs.

I've got VIP, 32-point, Artificer & Veteran I, I'm also first life. If possible no tomes.

Thanks in advance.

Gareth

[unbongwah]

I'm looking for a Half-elf Swashbuckler, pure or multiclass. I like melee rather than spell casting, ranged for smashables & hard to get mobs.

Fairly easy to adapt the Count of MC or bard trapper builds to HE: main drawback is losing a feat on a build which is tight on them already. Neither is specced for ranged DPS, but it's pretty easy to switch to a thrown weapon or put a few pts into Spellsinger for Sonic Blast SLA if you just want a way to smash breakables.

If you're looking for more heavily-multiclassed builds with better melee DPS, see this build (CON-based) and this one (INT-based) using handaxes, which become 15-18/x4 19-20/x7 in Legendary Dreadnought with all available crit bonuses.

[ringoh]

Hello as the title has stated I would like to ask a kind person to create a 28-point FvS Drow build for me that does not require tomes but are optional. I am ok with +1 or +2 tomes if it I can apply them at a later level (IE not at lvl 3 but lvl 12 or 15 is ok), and does not require any premium classes besides Favored Soul. I am ok with multiclassing if I have to. I would like it to be strongly viable endgame and useful in solo and group play. I prefer a caster type but it is not mandatory. I also do not have a preference for a type of weapon if it is not a caster. I would also like pointers to which spells to take at which levels. Thank you.

[KoobTheProud]

FvS Evoker is not in a particularly strong place right now. I TR'd out of one at 25 because it became very slow at that point, however I am solo-only so your mileage may vary.

I found it to be slow except between 12 and 20 or so when Blade Barrier came into play and was still fairly OP, kiting packs in and around the barriers.

Here is a twitch of an Epic FvS running Slavers: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...mid-geared-FVS

That build might be a good starting point if goldgolem was willing to share a link to it.

[ringoh]

I tried making one up myself since I haven't gotten one yet from any of the places I'm looking for help in lol. I would like some pointers on were I could improve this is my first one I have made so please be gentle lol.

Drow Caster FvS
Favored Soul 20
True Neutral Drow


Stats
               28pt     Level Up
               ----     --------
Strength         8       4: WIS
Dexterity       10       8: WIS
Constitution    14      12: WIS
Intelligence    10      16: WIS
Wisdom          18      20: WIS
Charisma        12      24: WIS
                        28: WIS

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Heal      3  1  1  1  1  1     1  1     1     1  1        1  1     1  16
Concent   2     1  1  1     1     1  1  1  1  1     1  1  1     1     15
Spellcr   3  1           1  1  1     1     1     1  1  1     1  1  1  15
         ------------------------------------------------------------
          8  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2  2


Feats

 1        : Empower Spell
 1 Deity  : Follower of: Silver Flame
 3        : Maximize Spell
 3 Deity  : Child of: Silver Flame
 5 FavSoul: Energy Resistance: Electricity
 6        : Quicken Spell
 6 Deity  : Silver Flame Exorcism
 9        : Empower Healing Spell
10 FavSoul: Energy Resistance: Fire
12        : Spell Focus: Evocation
12 Deity  : Beloved of: Silver Flame
15        : Spell Penetration
15 FavSoul: Energy Resistance: Cold
18        : Greater Spell Penetration
20 Deity  : Damage Reduction: Good
21 Epic   : Epic Spell Penetration
24 Epic   : Master of: Light
26 Destiny: Guardian Angel
27 Epic   : Ruin
28 Destiny: Forced Escape
29 Destiny: Deific Warding
30 Epic   : Greater Ruin
30 Legend : Scion of: Celestia


Spells
Nimbus of Light, Cure Light Wounds, Shield of Faith, Bless
Soundburst, Cure Moderate Wounds, Resist Energy, Lesser Restoration
Searing Light, Cure Serious Wounds, Protection from Energy, Mass Aid
Holy Smite, Death Ward, Freedom of Movement, Cure Critical Wounds
Divine Punishment, Flame Strike, Greater Command, Mass Cure Light Wounds
Blade Barrier, Cometfall, Heal
Mass Cure Serious Wounds, Resurrection, Greater Restoration
Mass Cure Critical Wounds, Fire Storm, Mass Death Ward
Implosion, Energy Drain, Mass Heal

Enhancements (80 AP)

Angel of Vengeance (49 AP)
Font of Power, Shield of Condemnation, Aura of Menace, Summon Archon, Vengeful Magic
Scourge III, Smiting, Angelic Resistance III
Just Reward III, Efficient Maximize III, Smiting, Spell Power Boost III
Wand and Scroll Mastery III, Efficient Empower I, Smiting, Spell Penetration, Wisdom
Intense Faith III
Evocation Focus, Zealous Faith III
Warpriest (23 AP)
Smite Foe, Resilience of Battle, Sanctuary, Blur
Toughness I, Sacred Touch III
Wall of Steel III, Inflame III, Inflame: Saving Throws II
Inflame: Energy Absorption III, Wisdom
Wisdom
Drow (8 AP)
Spell Resistance, Charisma, Spell Resistance II, Charisma
(none)
Venom Lore II

Destiny (24 AP)

Exalted Angel
Avenging Light, Radiant Power III, Endless Faith I, Healing Power I
Judgment, Soundburst III
Piercing Spellcraft III
Rebuke Foe, Blood and Radiance III
(none)
Sun Bolt, Reborn in Light
Twists of Fate (31 fate points)
Empyrean Magic (Tier 3 Crusader)
Piercing Spellcraft (Tier 3 Magister)
School Specialist: Evocation (Tier 2 Magister)
Precise: Evocation (Tier 2 Draconic)

[unbongwah]

Looks fine, although I would start INT 12 so you have enough skill pts to max out Concentration, Spellcraft, and Heal (or maybe UMD). Like Koob said, the real issue is FvS are long overdue for buffage, which are supposedly in the works.

[ringoh]

Which one should I lower to compensate? for the INT?

[unbongwah]

Which one should I lower to compensate? for the INT?

I would probably start INT 12 CON 14 WIS 18 (2 + 10 + 16 = 28 pts). You need CHA 10 + <spell level> for spellcasting, but gear counts towards that requirement so starting CHA 10 is no big deal. If necessary, put a few APs towards CHA until your gear catches up.

EDIT: to me the biggest drawback to FvS is the lack of SLAs. Every other caster PrE has at least three SLAs; Season's Herald gets six. AoV only has one in the capstone and most of them stink. TBH, until SSG buffs FvS properly, the only pure FvS build I'd want to play in epics is Morninglord because they get Sunbolt SLA. But that requires an LR +1 to go pure FvS. [P2W FTW ]

[ringoh]

I would probably start INT 12 CON 14 WIS 18 (2 + 10 + 16 = 28 pts). You need CHA 10 + <spell level> for spellcasting, but gear counts towards that requirement so starting CHA 10 is no big deal. If necessary, put a few APs towards CHA until your gear catches up.

EDIT: to me the biggest drawback to FvS is the lack of SLAs. Every other caster PrE has at least three SLAs; Season's Herald gets six. AoV only has one in the capstone and most of them stink. TBH, until SSG buffs FvS properly, the only pure FvS build I'd want to play in epics is Morninglord because they get Sunbolt SLA. But that requires an LR +1 to go pure FvS. [P2W FTW ]

Ah k thank you for the help

[KoobTheProud]

SLA's I used in Epic levels were Sunbolt (Exalted Angel), Soundburst (Exalted Angel), Darkfire (for a short interval when it was OP, now it is better than nothing but not by a lot due to reflex save) and Energy Burst (twist from Draconic Incarnation with a looooong cooldown). It made rotations tough to manage. I mixed in Holy Smite (just Quicken) for the CC via blinds and Blade Barrier (one meta'd for big fights and one no meta's for CC and some damage).

For boss fights Divine Punishment stacked up does a good job, metas or not. I would rotate 2 no meta casts with a fully meta'd cast and that works fairly well.

I was also using Implosion in packs and Destruction and Banishment where appropriate. Destruction is surprisingly good at managing that archer or caster who would otherwise bedevil you while their cohorts kept you on the move.

[ddmasterm]

I'd kill to play a Bardbarian character. I'd like to stay away from PDK personally, though I know it works for a Shortsword charisma build.

Doing some research I've got some notes to start from:
- 2 Rog/3 Brd/15 Barb w/ Halfling for DM as a solo build
- T3 WC High Spirits to stop exhaustion
- 4 Bard gets 2 lvl 2 spell slots
- Rapier, Light Pick, Kama, GAxes all seem to be candidates for weapons
- Not sure whether to T5 Ravager or Occult Slayer. Seems either makes for some crazy crit multipliers.
- Int, Cha, Str, and Dex all seem to work. I think Con requires too much AP