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**kryptkill** · 07-30-2014, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by unbongwah

The Kensei enhancement "One with the Blade" turns your melee Focus weapons into ki weapons, allowing you to remain centered with them. However, it requires at least 8 ftr lvls because Gtr Weapon Focus is one of its pre-reqs; so the build you proposed (rog 12 / monk 6 / ftr 2) couldn't take it. You could use regular ki weapons with that class split (i.e., handwraps, staves, kamas, short swords w/Ninja); though I prefer either rog 13 / monk 6 / ftr 1 or maybe rog 12 / monk 6 / pal 2.

What's the benefit of having the paladin in there? I mean I already get massive umd from rogue and saves from monk

**unbongwah** · 07-30-2014, 11:28 AM

Divine Grace (pal 2) provides a potentially huge bonus to saves. Even if Turbine goes ahead with their proposed nerf to DG, a pal 2 splash will still be worth up to +8 to saves. It also opens up access to Divine Might thru KotC if you have Bane of Undeath (Divine Crusader), which can be a significant DPS bonus for STR builds.

**kryptkill** · 07-30-2014, 07:19 PM

Alright, I understand. I know its a bit to ask but could you come up with a build for that? I made a level 4 veteran char and tried to look ahead but its not easy for me since I am so inexperienced. I'd really appreciate it

**iiKill** · 07-31-2014, 01:32 AM

Hey! First off, thanks for reading. Means a Lot!

ANYWHO! Let's talk builds

I'm really bad at building characters. I always over, or underthink things, and end up f***ing myself up toward end game, leaving me with a recently deleted (out of rage) toon. SO! I've got a build request.

I want a tank. And I mean, a TANK. I mean, I dont want to get hit. High AC, Amazing Saves, with as much DPS as possible (I really dont expect much). Preferably without a ton of tomes, but a few I can handle. I have every class, and race, except the Iconics (I recently got the Cleric one, but dont have the rest). I like the thought of Dwarf tanks, but if that doesn't work, so be it. I've also been interested in the whole S&B thing w/ Swashbuckling, so maybe some bard? Maybe Stalwart Fighter? I dunno. I'd like a Feat/Enhancement rundown if possible x]...

Thanks!

**Nodoze** · 07-31-2014, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by iiKill

Hey! First off, thanks for reading. Means a Lot!

ANYWHO! Let's talk builds

I'm really bad at building characters. I always over, or underthink things, and end up f***ing myself up toward end game, leaving me with a recently deleted (out of rage) toon. SO! I've got a build request.

I want a tank. And I mean, a TANK. I mean, I dont want to get hit. High AC, Amazing Saves, with as much DPS as possible (I really dont expect much). Preferably without a ton of tomes, but a few I can handle. I have every class, and race, except the Iconics (I recently got the Cleric one, but dont have the rest). I like the thought of Dwarf tanks, but if that doesn't work, so be it. I've also been interested in the whole S&B thing w/ Swashbuckling, so maybe some bard? Maybe Stalwart Fighter? I dunno. I'd like a Feat/Enhancement rundown if possible x]...

Thanks!

If no one posts anything better the following is the only EE viable Tank that I have recently seen (there may be others but I haven't seen them):

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5317958

That post (#44) in the thread contains a link to a youtube video where the players goes through each tab on his character sheet showing all feats/enhancements/stats/Epic Destiny info/etc. There are multiple follow-up posts with questions and answers after post #44 in the thread and some other videos linked in later posts...

**unbongwah** · 07-31-2014, 09:48 AM

With the forthcoming changes to both armor and pallies, I'm hoping they become a lot more viable. See my Sacred Defender thread for a newbie-friendly build.

There's also some interesting builds involving Swashbuckler + Stalwart Defender (ftr 6 for defensive stance). See Smashbuckler and Zoda's thread for two examples.

**CenturySC** · 07-31-2014, 02:49 PM

Hey guys, I'm a F2P player who just came back to the game. Turns out I have a level 20 dude that could use a TR. So now the question is, what do I TR him to?

I have:
Warforged
Drow
FVS
Monk

I am looking for a fast heroic run, since I will probably TR him again. I'd like to use some kind of THF, and see a bunch of big numbers pop up on the screen. I have no qualms with Cleric Hirelings when Soloing, but some amount of self sufficiency for BYOH groups would be nice.

I'd rather not roll a bard, since I already have one, and similarly, I'd rather not roll a WF arcane for the same reasons.

I think the most important thing is that I really really suck at DDO. I want the easiest build to play.

Thank you for your help and time,

CSC

EDIT: BTW, I have looked at this page (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...for-Characters) and while I'm really impressed with most of these builds, they are all endgame epic destiny focused, and I really just want a Heroic pubstomper.

**unbongwah** · 07-31-2014, 03:05 PM

You forgot an important detail: what PL feat do you want from your next HTR?

**CenturySC** · 07-31-2014, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by unbongwah

You forgot an important detail: what PL feat do you want from your next HTR?

I honestly could care less. I mostly just play for fun.

**Nodoze** · 07-31-2014, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by unbongwah

With the forthcoming changes to both armor and pallies, I'm hoping they become a lot more viable. See my Sacred Defender thread for a newbie-friendly build.

There's also some interesting builds involving Swashbuckler + Stalwart Defender (ftr 6 for defensive stance). See Smashbuckler and Zoda's thread for two examples.

I am also hoping that the AC & Paladin changes end up being for the better.

Personally I am keeping an eye on your Dwarven Defender varients and hoping they gets some buffs as I really want to play a Constitution based AC tank. Personally I would love to see a variant with a heavy divine component (either deep Paladin &/or just enough Cleric or FvS to get more self healing).

**CenturySC** · 08-01-2014, 05:40 PM

Ok, so I've been thinking about what I was looking for, and I think I came up with something.

I think I'm going to roll up some sort of Halfling THF fighter. Right now, I want to go with 12 fighter, 4 Monk, 4 Paladin, I basically just want a fighter with the pally CHA to saves and Evasion from the monk. I want 4 paladin instead of 2 because I want to take Maximize and Empower healing so that my dragonmark CSW's are good. Anyone able to help me with a leveling order?

**unbongwah** · 08-01-2014, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by CenturySC

I think I'm going to roll up some sort of Halfling THF fighter. Right now, I want to go with 12 fighter, 4 Monk, 4 Paladin, I basically just want a fighter with the pally CHA to saves and Evasion from the monk. I want 4 paladin instead of 2 because I want to take Maximize and Empower healing so that my dragonmark CSW's are good.

Code:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page


Level 28 Lawful Good Halfling Female
(8 Fighter \ 6 Paladin \ 6 Monk \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 364
Spell Points: 170 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 14
Will: 13


                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
Strength             16                    27
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             14                    14


Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack




Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host




Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing




Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR




Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave




Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Halfling - Cunning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Lesser Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Break Out The Leeches (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Guile (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Greater Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)




Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Handed Fighting




Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons




Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell




Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons




Level 11 (Fighter)




Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons




Level 13 (Fighter)




Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike With No Thought (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Weapon Meditation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Keen Edge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - One With The Blade (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Deadly Strike (Rank 1)




Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light




Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR




Level 17 (Monk)




Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Improved Sunder
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms




Level 19 (Paladin)




Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)




Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical




Level 22 (Epic)




Level 23 (Epic)




Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow




Level 25 (Epic)




Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting




Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed




Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: First Blood

Ftr 8 is for feats & Keen Edge / One w/Blade; monk 6 is for the feats (inc. Adept of Forms) and Shadow Form (25% Incorporeality); pal 6 is for Unyielding Sovereignty (free heal once every 10 mins.) and Sacred D. defensive stance, which also boosts your Pos Spellpower. You lose Power Surge, which is unfortunate, but I wanted to emphasize the survivability on this build, hence the extra monk & pally lvls.

You'll need to slot Devotion somewhere to add oomph to your DMs. At lower lvls, look for weapons for red augment slots you can use: e.g., Sword of the Thirty, Whirlwind, Xuum. Adherent's Pendant is also a decent choice.

EDIT: it's also easy to switch this to SWF instead by taking those feats instead of THF. Just remember you need 7 ranks of Balance to take GSWF, so put some monk skill pts into it.

**iiKill** · 08-02-2014, 03:29 AM

Hey again!... So,

I got the Cleric Iconic recently, and I wanna make one. (Only for the purpose of starting @ lvl 15..)

HOWEVER, I wanna mix some druid with it. I've never really made a druid, So I dont know what I want to do yet.. A little help? I'd prefer it to be only 1 or 2 levels of cleric. And the rest druid. I'd like a thought on what kind of druid, as well, and what would go better w/ the build. Caster? Fire/Water ele form, Bear, Wolf? No idea. Some idea would be amazing though. Go Crazy, mix some classes in there. An epic bear-tank would be cool too.

Thanks!

**CenturySC** · 08-02-2014, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by unbongwah

Code:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page


Level 28 Lawful Good Halfling Female
(8 Fighter \ 6 Paladin \ 6 Monk \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 364
Spell Points: 170 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 14
Will: 13


                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
Strength             16                    27
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             14                    14


Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack




Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host




Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing




Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR




Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave




Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Halfling - Cunning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Lesser Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Break Out The Leeches (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Guile (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Greater Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)




Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Handed Fighting




Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons




Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell




Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons




Level 11 (Fighter)




Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons




Level 13 (Fighter)




Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike With No Thought (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Weapon Meditation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Keen Edge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - One With The Blade (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Deadly Strike (Rank 1)




Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light




Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR




Level 17 (Monk)




Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Improved Sunder
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms




Level 19 (Paladin)




Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)




Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical




Level 22 (Epic)




Level 23 (Epic)




Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow




Level 25 (Epic)




Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting




Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed




Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: First Blood

Ftr 8 is for feats & Keen Edge; monk 6 is for the feats (inc. Adept of Forms) and Shadow Form (25% Incorporeality); pal 6 is for Unyielding Sovereignty (free heal once every 10 mins.) and Sacred D. defensive stance, which also boosts your Pos Spellpower. You lose Power Surge, which is unfortunate, but I wanted to emphasize the survivability on this build, hence the extra monk & pally lvls.

You'll need to slot Devotion somewhere to add oomph to your DMs. At lower lvls, look for weapons for red augment slots you can use: e.g., Sword of the Thirty, Whirlwind, Xuum. Adherent's Pendant is also a decent choice.

EDIT: it's also easy to switch this to SWF instead by taking those feats instead of THF. Just remember you need 7 ranks of Balance to take GSWF, so put some monk skill pts into it.

Excellent. Thanks a ton man, you do a lot of good work on these forums.

**Nodoze** · 08-03-2014, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by CenturySC

Excellent. Thanks a ton man, you do a lot of good work on these forums.

In emphatic agreement.

**Vaur** · 08-04-2014, 01:44 AM

Hey, im interested on a ranged build, but i have no idea where to start, too many feats and enhancements

I can only do 28pt builds atm, but can access any class and race (no drow nor artificer

) and i would like it to be with bow if possible, thank you very much

**Caprice** · 08-04-2014, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Vaur

Hey, im interested on a ranged build, but i have no idea where to start, too many feats and enhancements

I can only do 28pt builds atm, but can access any class and race (no drow nor artificer

) and i would like it to be with bow if possible, thank you very much

If you don't know what you want other than ranged, going with a deep Ranger build is a solid choice. You get most of the key ranged feats granted for free as class feats (e.g. Manyshot, Bow STR, PS & IPS) by Ranger 11, plus solid melee DPS from the granted TWF feats, plus healing spells (and wand use), plus Evasion and decent Reflex saves to make use of it. The only ranged feat you want that you don't get for free from Ranger levels is Point Blank Shot, although Combat Archery is nice to get in epic levels if you can get your DEX score high enough (requires 21). All of the granted feats ignore the usual attribute requirements so they are much easier to get on low build point characters. You also get quick access at level 20 to the Primal Avatar Epic Destiny so you can get Rejuvenation Cocoon, which is the cornerstone of most fleshie self-healing in epic levels, although I would suggest starting in Shiradi for ranged ability and then take a quick foray into PA just long enough to max out Cocoon and then twist it in.

In particular I would suggest looking at EllisDee37's Tempest Trapmonkey. That is a melee-focused Ranger build but most of the ideas are still relevant. It takes some extra effort to pick up the necessary gear and tools to make trapping work but you gain a lot for almost no build sacrifices. You would drop most of the enhancements taken in Tempest and focus on Arcane Archer instead. You could run the build almost exactly as listed and just change the Khopesh proficiency to Point Blank Shot and the Improved Critical from Slash to Ranged (or drop Dodge so you can have both Improved Critical:Ranged and a melee Improved Critical). You could also drop the Dragonmark but I am a huge fan of it. You won't be able to get Combat Archery but the Strength focus means that your normal shots are more damaging (due to Bow Strength) and Overwhelming Critical is still a strong DPS increase for ranged damage too, and you would have stronger melee as backup to your archery.

You could also drop Strength to 14 and increase Dexterity to 16 to start and put your level up points into Dexterity; your normal shots will do a bit less damage than with a Strength focus but you able to get Combat Archery at level 21 as your Dexterity will reach 21 @ level 20 just from levelups. You might drop Cleave and Great Cleave for that build, maybe for fitting in the two IC feats and both Dodge and Mobility. I would recommend the Strength-based build as it should be easier to level but either can work.

Since it sounds like you have Monk you can probably make a more min-max version as Ranger 11/Monk 6/Rogue 3 that fits in Monk's 10K Stars for a second ranged burst attack (alongside Manyshot), using Zen Archey to treat bows as Ki weapons and taking Ninja Spy for Shadow Veil (25% Incorporeality defense) and more Sneak Attack dice, but the enhancements might be tight. I could flesh that out a bit if you wanted.

**unbongwah** · 08-04-2014, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Vaur

Hey, im interested on a ranged build, but i have no idea where to start, too many feats and enhancements

Have a look at my Elven Ranger thread, as well as this 28pt monkcher I posted recently.

**unbongwah** · 08-04-2014, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by iiKill

I got the Cleric Iconic recently, and I wanna make one. (Only for the purpose of starting @ lvl 15..)

HOWEVER, I wanna mix some druid with it. I've never really made a druid, So I dont know what I want to do yet.. A little help? I'd prefer it to be only 1 or 2 levels of cleric. And the rest druid. I'd like a thought on what kind of druid, as well, and what would go better w/ the build. Caster? Fire/Water ele form, Bear, Wolf? No idea. Some idea would be amazing though. Go Crazy, mix some classes in there. An epic bear-tank would be cool too.

A druid caster build is pretty much the same as a cleric caster build: max WIS, load up on metamagic feats, Fill up Season's Herald, blast away. Not sure what sun elf / ML adds to this build: maybe the low-tier caster bonuses in Radiant Servant?

If you want a melee druid, things can get complicated pretty quick; Warpriest has obvious applications here (Div Might, Smite Foe/Weakness, etc.). Again, though, not sure what ML is getting you, unless you want to use blunt weapons for sun elf bonuses.

Honestly, I've yet to see or come up with an "epic bear tank" build I like, simply because their melee DPS is usually so poor.

Some people have come up with creative ideas exploiting Cleave atks, but those would still do better DPS as wolves. Frankly the best option for a druid "tank" might be this caster build, done by one of my guild's officers.

**Vaur** · 08-04-2014, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by unbongwah

Have a look at my Elven Ranger thread, as well as this 28pt monkcher I posted recently.

Thanks for those builds

, but i forgot to mention i wanted to be ranged ONLY, no melee

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