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    can some1 help me make a death knight class that uses pale master but with melee capibilities pref 2handers

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    Heya.

    I'd like to get a halfling 18/2 Paladin/Monk. He'd have the dragonmark of healing too (All the way to greater?). More for DEX too.

    My thougths in stats would be these:

    10 STR
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    14 CON
    8 INT
    14 WIS
    14 CHA

    Of course, feel free to edit.

    More for AC too. So he'd be like a self-healing tank. Reason i ask for help is that i'm not sure of feats and enchancements ^^;

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    Cool arcane archer

    ive got a lvl9 ranger, rogue,wiz,i want to make an aa,can you suggest a direction to go from here

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    Quote Originally Posted by ulyssses View Post
    ive got a lvl9 ranger, rogue,wiz,i want to make an aa,can you suggest a direction to go from here
    It depends on your race and what split you have.
    to get the best AA ability (the slaying arrows) you need to be ranger 18 or elf(including half elf) 20. If you are an elf or half elf you can make any split you like and qualify. If you re not an elf you need 18 ranger levels and thus (rogue 1 wizard 1).

    You can do AA without getting slaying arrows of course but they are the really nice cap of that prestige line and worth shooting for.

    I recommend you take 12 ranger levels at least to really get the most free feats and goodies out of the class. Ranger 11 is almost as good, just one point less of barkskin AC. Ranger 11 gives you all the best ranged feats as bonuses so no need to worry about ability score qualifications and such. You also get good TWF which is nice to have.

    I'd stick to just one wizard level on such builds, or at most go to level 5 for extend/haste. The rogue... well as much as you have left over.
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    Hey Sig, what do you think of a Halfling 13 Rogue Assassin / 7 Monk Ninja Spy? I was thinking emphasis on shortswords, AC, and stealth...but I can't quite make the build pan out right in the planner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldin View Post
    Hey Sig, what do you think of a Halfling 13 Rogue Assassin / 7 Monk Ninja Spy? I was thinking emphasis on shortswords, AC, and stealth...but I can't quite make the build pan out right in the planner.
    This is the one I did along those lines. I've not tried it myself though. Its drow rather than halfling, but I think the conversion wouldn't change much.
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...04#post3440804
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigtrent View Post
    This is the one I did along those lines. I've not tried it myself though. Its drow rather than halfling, but I think the conversion wouldn't change much.
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...04#post3440804
    APs would be even tighter than in the Drow Version. You lose +2 attack/+2 damage for a total of 12 APs, while the damage enhancing enhancements on the halfling side (Guile with its prereq Cunning) provide more damage on sneak attacks/additional to-hit when flanking for a cost of 2 (tier 1, +1 to hit, +2 SA damage), 6 (tier 2, +2 to hit, +4 SA damage) and 12 APs (tier 3, +3 to hit, +6 SA), respectively. This way, aggro management becomes more important and APs are even a bit tighter.

    It should also be noted that fists deal 2d6 at level 5+ and have a higher attack speed than Short Swords. This way, I see Short Swords as a sub-optimal weapon choice, unless you plan to use Banishing/Smiting/Puncturing and other on-crit effects on a regular basis. With Drow, the weapon choice offers some synergies, but on a Halfling, Short Swords as a DPS weapon will just provide worse damage at a slower speed.
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    I'm looking for a WF wizard build. I'm VIP status and would like to use +1 and +2 tomes. I found a build that I have been following and have really enjoyed it so far. It doesn't use the tomes and seems to be a little soft now at level 14. I plan to be self healing with a power house fire wall and ice storm. So if you could find the time to help me out it would be much appreciated. I've seen tons of this type of build out there but with the updates and such I'm not sure if it makes a difference.

    Thanks, Black

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    Quote Originally Posted by karl_k0ch View Post
    It should also be noted that fists deal 2d6 at level 5+ and have a higher attack speed than Short Swords. This way, I see Short Swords as a sub-optimal weapon choice, unless you plan to use Banishing/Smiting/Puncturing and other on-crit effects on a regular basis. With Drow, the weapon choice offers some synergies, but on a Halfling, Short Swords as a DPS weapon will just provide worse damage at a slower speed.
    Very nice analysis. The short swords are very much a niche monk weapon. In vale where banishing is very powerful it is probably better than dps, of when fighting raksasha, but that is about it. Also the greensteel option is there, but the TOD rings are just as good for DPS and easier to put together (in my experience and so long as you know folks that run it fairly often).
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    Default hagggle mule

    Don't know if you have done this, couldn't find one in search.

    Want the best build for a sales mule. Vet, Drow unlocked, L4, 32pt with max haggle just to sell stuff at the max. If you know how much more you get for selling junk with this character, that would be nice to know. Don't know if it's necessary with a few high level characters but at low levels for people just building characters it might help.

    Perform too?.

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    Have you already looked at Mississippi Queen?
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    A drow/any other 28 pts if that's better (including helf, horc) FvS focusing on heals but also capable of a bit of offensive casting/CC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psikick View Post
    Don't know if you have done this, couldn't find one in search.

    Want the best build for a sales mule. Vet, Drow unlocked, L4, 32pt with max haggle just to sell stuff at the max. If you know how much more you get for selling junk with this character, that would be nice to know. Don't know if it's necessary with a few high level characters but at low levels for people just building characters it might help.

    Perform too?.
    Re: Mississippi Queen, I am not looking for a playable character. Just a mule that pops out of the vat and sits by the harbor banker for life at level 4 with max haggle and the best haggle item a CL4 can wear. Ought to be useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psikick View Post
    Want the best build for a sales mule. Vet, Drow unlocked, L4, 32pt with max haggle just to sell stuff at the max. If you know how much more you get for selling junk with this character, that would be nice to know. Don't know if it's necessary with a few high level characters but at low levels for people just building characters it might help.
    Level matters for haggling. The higher level you are, the better your score will be for various reasons (buffs, skill ranks, ability score, gear, and location).

    Still, a level 4 bot is better than a level 20 that dumps charisma and haggle.

    A neutral human bard will give you the best score. 18 charisma(+4), 7 ranks in haggle, Human versatility 2, Skill: haggle 2 enhancement, Eagles Splender spell, Focusing chant, command robe, skill item +5 (I think thats the max at 4), Skill Focus Haggle Feat, Negotiator Feat, level bump cha and take bard charisma 1

    So self buffed, thats 32 haggle
    Price chart for haggle here: http://ddowiki.com/page/Haggle
    It about doubles your sell prices compared to 0 haggle and gets a 25% discount on buys. (If I skimmed that chart properly)
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    Quote Originally Posted by karl_k0ch View Post
    Tukaw could be what you are looking for: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=181901
    Tukaw's build was great, but had a heavy focus on tomes, which I don't have. I'd appreciate advice on how to tweak it without tomes to work though. Also, I didn't see the point of the rogue levels...probably a noob question though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfred0027 View Post
    Tukaw's build was great, but had a heavy focus on tomes, which I don't have. I'd appreciate advice on how to tweak it without tomes to work though. Also, I didn't see the point of the rogue levels...probably a noob question though.
    gives you umd, and other skills + evasion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfred0027 View Post
    Tukaw's build was great, but had a heavy focus on tomes, which I don't have. I'd appreciate advice on how to tweak it without tomes to work though. Also, I didn't see the point of the rogue levels...probably a noob question though.
    Rogue grants UMD as a class skill and Evasion.
    For the tomes, none of thoses is really needed, like Dex tomes on Str-based TWF builds. Besides the int one, maybe. With 9 starting int, you will want to get a +1 tome as soon as possible for +1 skill per level, perhaps a +3 one for a tiny portion of skill points as well. Note that Intimidate is a class skill for paladins now, allowing to raise the intimidate score higher than what was stated in the Tukaw thread.

    Evasion would also be granted by 2 Monk levels, where you'd essentially trade 12 ranks in UMD for 2 feats. It would remove a lot of versatility from the build (worse scroll healing abilities), but it adds better saves and more versatility via feats. And even a tiny bit of AC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furyofearth View Post
    A drow/any other 28 pts if that's better (including helf, horc) FvS focusing on heals but also capable of a bit of offensive casting/CC.
    Let me correct that. I'd like a drow FvS capable of melee, but weak at offensive casting. (I'd prefer not to multiclass, but if I'm wrong, then multiclassing is alright, too. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigtrent View Post
    Level matters for haggling. The higher level you are, the better your score will be for various reasons (buffs, skill ranks, ability score, gear, and location).

    Still, a level 4 bot is better than a level 20 that dumps charisma and haggle.

    A neutral human bard will give you the best score. 18 charisma(+4), 7 ranks in haggle, Human versatility 2, Skill: haggle 2 enhancement, Eagles Splender spell, Focusing chant, command robe, skill item +5 (I think thats the max at 4), Skill Focus Haggle Feat, Negotiator Feat, level bump cha and take bard charisma 1

    So self buffed, thats 32 haggle
    Price chart for haggle here: http://ddowiki.com/page/Haggle
    It about doubles your sell prices compared to 0 haggle and gets a 25% discount on buys. (If I skimmed that chart properly)
    Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Unfortunately I went with a Paladin. I will have to reroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psikick View Post
    Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Unfortunately I went with a Paladin. I will have to reroll.
    ...which should not be a great deal, considering the fact that you are having Vet status and are looking for a level 4 character.
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